Hall trade realistic

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$74,846,667	$0	$2,220,000	$6,653,333

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Marchand, Brad $6,125,000$6,125,000 LW NMC UFA - 6	Bergeron, Patrice $6,875,000$6,875,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Pastrnak, David $6,666,667$6,666,667 RW UFA - 4
Hall, Taylor $0$0 LW UFA - 1	Krejci, David $7,250,000$7,250,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	DeBrusk, Jake $863,333$863,333 ($450,000$450K) RW, LW UFA - 1
Heinen, Danton $2,800,000$2,800,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Coyle, Charlie $3,200,000$3,200,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Kuhlman, Karson $750,000$750,000 RW UFA - 1
Lindholm, Pär $850,000$850,000 LW, C UFA - 2
	Kuraly, Sean $1,275,000$1,275,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Wagner, Chris $1,250,000$1,250,000 RW, C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Krug, Torey $5,250,000$5,250,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	McAvoy, Charlie $4,900,000$4,900,000 RD UFA - 3	Rask, Tuukka $7,000,000$7,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
	Carlo, Brandon $2,850,000$2,850,000 RD UFA - 2	Halák, Jaroslav $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 1
Chara, Zdeno $2,000,000$2,000,000 ($1,750,000$2M) LD NMC UFA - 1	Clifton, Connor $725,000$725,000 ($20,000$20K) RD UFA - 1
Grzelcyk, Matt $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Ritchie, Brett $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW UFA - 1	Backes, David $4,500,000$4,500,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Miller, Kevan $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 1
Kampfer, Steven $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 2	Blidh, Anton $700,000$700,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Nov. 18, 2019 at 11:20 a.m.

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Hall is not the answer or the need.

Plus someone will give them more than a collection of mid level prospects

Nov. 18, 2019 at 11:22 a.m.

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Quoting: Gofnut999

Hall is not the answer or the need.

Well thats where you are wrong, they need another top 6 sniper because the first line is the only one constantly producing. Do I think Hall is the player? Maybe not, but this was just to correct everyone who doesn't understand his value.

Nov. 18, 2019 at 11:25 a.m.

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Quoting: bsilk18

Well thats where you are wrong, they need another top 6 sniper because the first line is the only one constantly producing. Do I think Hall is the player? Maybe not, but this was just to correct everyone who doesn't understand his value.

Need a RW. Period. Debrusk was terrible and lost on RW last year.

Either get a RW or don’t bother. Studnicka has been on fire the last 2 weeks in Prov. Give him 3C and move Coyle to RW2.

Nov. 18, 2019 at 11:27 a.m.

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Quoting: Gofnut999

Need a RW. Period. Debrusk was terrible and lost on RW last year.

Either get a RW or don’t bother. Studnicka has been on fire the last 2 weeks in Prov. Give him 3C and move Coyle to RW2.

They will not call up Stud yet, or at least it seems likely, they would have done it at the beginning. Also there are plenty of players that can play 3rd line center, but the problem is that they don't wanna play Coyle at 2nd line RW or they woulda done it already, you don't think they thought of that?

Nov. 18, 2019 at 11:30 a.m.

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Quoting: bsilk18

They will not call up Stud yet, or at least it seems likely, they would have done it at the beginning. Also there are plenty of players that can play 3rd line center, but the problem is that they don't wanna play Coyle at 2nd line RW or they woulda done it already, you don't think they thought of that?

Studnicka was not ready. Still isn’t really. Couple more months...maybe.

They did not want to move Coyle to RW2 because they did not have a C3. If they did...no problem.

So either get the RW or C. Upgrading LW does nothing. Makes as much sense as adding another goalie.

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Nov. 18, 2019 at 11:33 a.m.

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Quoting: Gofnut999

Studnicka was not ready. Still isn’t really. Couple more months...maybe.

They did not want to move Coyle to RW2 because they did not have a C3. If they did...no problem.

So either get the RW or C. Upgrading LW does nothing. Makes as much sense as adding another goalie.

Well thats also wrong lol. Thats the thing about wingers, for the most part they are interchangeable. So fine, maybe Debrusk won't play LW and isn't great on his offwing, so Hall can try.
The point is: I have thought about everything you have said and will say, and this post accounts for it.
MOST IMPORTANTLY: Idk if I even would make the trade, I was literally just showing people the proper value.

Nov. 18, 2019 at 11:36 a.m.

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Quoting: bsilk18

Well thats also wrong lol. Thats the thing about wingers, for the most part they are interchangeable. So fine, maybe Debrusk won't play LW and isn't great on his offwing, so Hall can try.
The point is: I have thought about everything you have said and will say, and this post accounts for it.
MOST IMPORTANTLY: Idk if I even would make the trade, I was literally just showing people the proper value.

Wrong. Some wingers are better are on their off wing some are terrible. Debrusk was not good there. Hall has never played there. Who knows. Why risk it. Get the need.

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Nov. 18, 2019 at 11:39 a.m.

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Quoting: Gofnut999

Wrong. Some wingers are better are on their off wing some are terrible. Debrusk was not good there. Hall has never played there. Who knows. Why risk it. Get the need.

Ok Im done with you here lol. Just read what I have written and understand that I AM JUST TRYING TO SHOW THE VALUE. God you sound like an idiot and I know you are usually pretty spot on on this website.

Nov. 18, 2019 at 12:17 p.m.

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Quoting: bsilk18

Ok Im done with you here lol. Just read what I have written and understand that I AM JUST TRYING TO SHOW THE VALUE. God you sound like an idiot and I know you are usually pretty spot on on this website.

I know that’s what you were trying to do. The question is why. They should not be looking at him at all. Just another square peg in a round hole fix that they have tried for the last couple of years with zero results. Fix the problem area not the strength.

I’d much rather have Staal or Strome at less cost who are not rentals. Or JGP Toffoli at less cost who are.

B’s fans were up in arms about Coyle trade and ambivalent about MoJo. Worked out well. Don’t need the biggest name on the market especially when they don’t need the position he plays. Does he add more scoring...sure. Does not fix the problem. If your car has a flat tire you don’t fix it by putting gas into an already full tank, you fix the tire.

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Nov. 18, 2019 at 12:17 p.m.

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Simply from a logical point. Boston's absolute max sure, but not even close to the NJD bare minimum....and to be real honest I don't think Taylor Hall answers the problems for Boston. I think if New Jersey were to trade Hall in conference it's going to be a deal that works for New jersey, and to be fair I think they would want Vaakanainen or someone of similar value with a first. Look at what Mark Stone got for if he DIDN'T sign and extension with Vegas. They still would have gotten a first out of it. The idea a rental isn't going to be worth as much they will be worth a lot still because I bet New Jersey gets way better offers than that from other teams pushing for a Stanley Cup. For all obvious reasons I don't see New Jersey doing this, and if it's Boston's absolute max I think they will be pretty disappointed with what that gets them.

Nov. 18, 2019 at 12:26 p.m.

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Quoting: Gofnut999

Wrong. Some wingers are better are on their off wing some are terrible. Debrusk was not good there. Hall has never played there. Who knows. Why risk it. Get the need.

Just throwing this out in support of @Gofnut999 Ovechkin was tried on RW once and people assumed he was on the steady decline because he looked awful there. Believe it or not, wingers aren't as interchangeable as you might think.
Personally, if I'm Boston I go after Palmieri. Guy is a solid player and is signed for next season at under 5 mil.
Or if you want long term success, Tuch is one of the best candidates but would cost a lot.

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Nov. 18, 2019 at 12:28 p.m.

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Quoting: Gofnut999

I know that’s what you were trying to do. The question is why. They should not be looking at him at all. Just another square peg in a round hole fix that they have tried for the last couple of years with zero results. Fix the problem area not the strength.

I’d much rather have Staal or Strome at less cost who are not rentals. Or JGP Toffoli at less cost who are.

B’s fans were up in arms about Coyle trade and ambivalent about MoJo. Worked out well. Don’t need the biggest name on the market especially when they don’t need the position he plays. Does he add more scoring...sure. Does not fix the problem. If your car has a flat tire you don’t fix it by putting gas into an already full tank, you fix the tire.

Anyone that was "up in arms" about the Coyle trade was an idiot. Bruins were buying and Donato is young and struggling. It was clearly a good trade so thats moronic.

Nov. 18, 2019 at 1:40 p.m.

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Quoting: bsilk18

Anyone that was "up in arms" about the Coyle trade was an idiot. Bruins were buying and Donato is young and struggling. It was clearly a good trade so thats moronic.

I agree, thought it was a great trade right from the start, but most fans did not at the time. Some still don’t.

Nov. 18, 2019 at 1:53 p.m.

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Nov. 18, 2019 at 1:55 p.m.

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Quoting: bsilk18

Ok Im done with you here lol. Just read what I have written and understand that I AM JUST TRYING TO SHOW THE VALUE. God you sound like an idiot and I know you are usually pretty spot on on this website.

He is actually 100% correct. You are the one that sounds like they don't know what they are talking about.

Nov. 18, 2019 at 11:56 p.m.

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dont you get the feeling nj wants more nhl ready assets for this guy. they got hughes gusev went out to get subban. they dont want to be behind the rangers rebuild wise.

Dec. 16, 2019 at 5:15 p.m.

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

Simply from a logical point. Boston's absolute max sure, but not even close to the NJD bare minimum....and to be real honest I don't think Taylor Hall answers the problems for Boston. I think if New Jersey were to trade Hall in conference it's going to be a deal that works for New jersey, and to be fair I think they would want Vaakanainen or someone of similar value with a first. Look at what Mark Stone got for if he DIDN'T sign and extension with Vegas. They still would have gotten a first out of it. The idea a rental isn't going to be worth as much they will be worth a lot still because I bet New Jersey gets way better offers than that from other teams pushing for a Stanley Cup. For all obvious reasons I don't see New Jersey doing this, and if it's Boston's absolute max I think they will be pretty disappointed with what that gets them.

Quoting: Gofnut999

Hall is not the answer or the need.

Plus someone will give them more than a collection of mid level prospects

Quoting: Propeller09

He is actually 100% correct. You are the one that sounds like they don't know what they are talking about.

Quoting: Jfstompers

dont you get the feeling nj wants more nhl ready assets for this guy. they got hughes gusev went out to get subban. they dont want to be behind the rangers rebuild wise.

This Bruins trade gave (slightly) more trade value the Devils way than the one that just happened in real life lololol
I never said it was the best move for the bruins at RW (so that was right), but I did say this was the trade value, you 4 told me I was wrong, and I was right

1 good prospect, 1 meh former 1st rounder prospect, 1 other young prospect, picks (and john moore, makes it about even)...

Dec. 16, 2019 at 5:55 p.m.

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Quoting: bsilk18

This Bruins trade gave (slightly) more trade value the Devils way than the one that just happened in real life lololol
I never said it was the best move for the bruins at RW (so that was right), but I did say this was the trade value, you 4 told me I was wrong, and I was right

1 good prospect, 1 meh former 1st rounder prospect, 1 other young prospect, picks (and john moore, makes it about even)...

Merkley is quite a give up but Arizona is getting desperate and you can tell with this trade.

Dec. 16, 2019 at 9:56 p.m.

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Quoting: bsilk18

This Bruins trade gave (slightly) more trade value the Devils way than the one that just happened in real life lololol
I never said it was the best move for the bruins at RW (so that was right), but I did say this was the trade value, you 4 told me I was wrong, and I was right

1 good prospect, 1 meh former 1st rounder prospect, 1 other young prospect, picks (and john moore, makes it about even)...

Quoting: bsilk18

This Bruins trade gave (slightly) more trade value the Devils way than the one that just happened in real life lololol
I never said it was the best move for the bruins at RW (so that was right), but I did say this was the trade value, you 4 told me I was wrong, and I was right

1 good prospect, 1 meh former 1st rounder prospect, 1 other young prospect, picks (and john moore, makes it about even)...

Quoting: bsilk18

This Bruins trade gave (slightly) more trade value the Devils way than the one that just happened in real life lololol
I never said it was the best move for the bruins at RW (so that was right), but I did say this was the trade value, you 4 told me I was wrong, and I was right

1 good prospect, 1 meh former 1st rounder prospect, 1 other young prospect, picks (and john moore, makes it about even)...

Im surprised for sure thought theyd want a more nhl ready package but hey I guys you take the best you can get.

Dec. 16, 2019 at 11:24 p.m.

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Quoting: bsilk18

This Bruins trade gave (slightly) more trade value the Devils way than the one that just happened in real life lololol
I never said it was the best move for the bruins at RW (so that was right), but I did say this was the trade value, you 4 told me I was wrong, and I was right

1 good prospect, 1 meh former 1st rounder prospect, 1 other young prospect, picks (and john moore, makes it about even)...

I don’t agree with you at all. But ??‍♂️

The Zona picks are better. That alone beats your package.

Merkley >= Frederic
Bahl >= JFK

Bjork > Schnarr. 3 or 4 years from now that could prove to be wrong.

If a 6/7 d man that is slightly overpaid tips the balance in your eyes...then so be it. But It doesn’t. Zona’s package was better.

B’s would have had to give 1st/Urho/prospect +. Glad they didn’t.

Dec. 17, 2019 at 11:05 a.m.

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Quoting: Gofnut999

I don’t agree with you at all. But ??‍♂️

The Zona picks are better. That alone beats your package.

Merkley >= Frederic
Bahl >= JFK

Bjork > Schnarr. 3 or 4 years from now that could prove to be wrong.

If a 6/7 d man that is slightly overpaid tips the balance in your eyes...then so be it. But It doesn’t. Zona’s package was better.

B’s would have had to give 1st/Urho/prospect +. Glad they didn’t.

Lol evidently not, and the other two guys just agreed that I was right. Please put your opinions and biases aside and just accept that I was right. Thats the most honorable thing to do.

Dec. 17, 2019 at 11:10 a.m.

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Quoting: bsilk18

Lol evidently not, and the other two guys just agreed that I was right. Please put your opinions and biases aside and just accept that I was right. Thats the most honorable thing to do.

Lol, neither said that. Put your narcissism aside and see reality.

Dec. 17, 2019 at 11:13 a.m.

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Quoting: Gofnut999

Lol, neither said that. Put your narcissism aside and see reality.

Lol if you read what they said, the paraphrasing of both very clearly is: Im surprised it happened, but it did and you were right... They never said I was a genius or anything lol, but they very much made it clear that I was right about what I said, even though it was surprising that it happened. Put your ego aside and give up. Im out lol

Dec. 17, 2019 at 11:22 a.m.

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Quoting: bsilk18

Lol if you read what they said, the paraphrasing of both very clearly is: Im surprised it happened, but it did and you were right... They never said I was a genius or anything lol, but they very much made it clear that I was right about what I said, even though it was surprising that it happened. Put your ego aside and give up. Im out lol

You see what you want to see.

Beastmode said in giving up Merkley Zona may have overpaid.

Stompers implied he was surprised they did not go for more NHL ready package.

Neither implied you were right.

You are not. It’s not close. Zona’s package was better.

20 1st beats 20 2nd

The 21 3rd has attainable conditions that could make it a 2nd or even 1st. Your 2nd and 7th were staying that way.

Merkley is a playmaking C that will likely be a 3rd liner. Frederic is more physical will be bottom 6.

Bahl looks like a LH version of Carlo. JFk has middle 6 potental.

Bjork still growing. Middle 6 FW. Schnarr had 102 pts in 65 games in jrs last year. Looks like a 3rd liner with potential for more.

Much rather have Zonas offer. So would Devils.

Dec. 17, 2019 at 11:35 a.m.

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Quoting: Gofnut999

You see what you want to see.

Beastmode said in giving up Merkley Zona may have overpaid.

Stompers implied he was surprised they did not go for more NHL ready package.

Neither implied you were right.

You are not. It’s not close. Zona’s package was better.

20 1st beats 20 2nd

The 21 3rd has attainable conditions that could make it a 2nd or even 1st. Your 2nd and 7th were staying that way.

Merkley is a playmaking C that will likely be a 3rd liner. Frederic is more physical will be bottom 6.

Bahl looks like a LH version of Carlo. JFk has middle 6 potental.

Bjork still growing. Middle 6 FW. Schnarr had 102 pts in 65 games in jrs last year. Looks like a 3rd liner with potential for more.

Much rather have Zonas offer. So would Devils.

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