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best and worst contracts on each team

Created by: kopiino
Initial Creation Date: Nov 18, 2019
Published: Nov 18 at 10:39 pm
Team: 2019-20 Custom Team
Team Explanation
left is best
right is worst

taking extensions into consideration
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
31$81,500,000$138,326,887$0$392,500-$56,826,887
Left WingCenterRight Wing
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
ANA
Kase, Ondrej
$2,600,000
RW
RFA - 2
ANA
Fowler, Cam
$6,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 7
ARI
Garland, Conor
$775,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
ARI
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
$8,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
BOS
Pastrnak, David
$6,666,666
RW
UFA - 4
BOS
Backes, David
$6,000,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 7
BUF
Ristolainen, Rasmus
$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 3
CGY
Gaudreau, Johnny
$6,750,000
LW
UFA - 3
CGY
Lucic, Milan
$5,250,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 4
CAR
Pesce, Brett
$4,025,000
RD
UFA - 5
CAR
Reimer, James
$3,400,000
G
UFA - 2
CHI
DeBrincat, Alex
$778,333
LW, RW
RFA - 1
CHI
Seabrook, Brent
$6,875,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
COL
Grubauer, Philipp
$3,333,333
G
UFA - 2
CBJ
Dubinsky, Brandon
$5,850,000
C, LW
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
CBJ
Savard, David
$4,250,000
RD
UFA - 2
COL
Johnson, Erik
$6,000,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 4
DAL
Bishop, Ben
$4,916,666
G
NMC
UFA - 4
DAL
Benn, Jamie
$9,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
DET
Larkin, Dylan
$6,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
DET
Abdelkader, Justin
$4,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
EDM
Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 6
EDM
Neal, James
$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
FLA
Barkov, Aleksander
$5,900,000
C
UFA - 3
FLA
Strålman, Anton
$5,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
LAK
Clifford, Kyle
$1,600,000
LW
UFA - 1
LAK
Quick, Jonathan
$5,800,000
G
UFA - 4
MIN
Zucker, Jason
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
MIN
Zuccarello, Mats
$6,000,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 5
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 3
MTL
Alzner, Karl
$4,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
NSH
Ekholm, Mattias
$3,750,000
LD
UFA - 3
NSH
Turris, Kyle
$6,000,000
C
UFA - 5
NJD
Palmieri, Kyle
$4,650,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
NJD
Schneider, Cory
$6,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
NYI
Mayfield, Scott
$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 4
NYI
Boychuk, Johnny
$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 7
NYR
Staal, Marc
$5,700,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
OTT
Chabot, Thomas
$863,333
LD
UFA - 1
OTT
Ryan, Bobby
$7,250,000
RW, LW
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
PHI
Couturier, Sean
$4,333,333
C
UFA - 3
PHI
Hayes, Kevin
$7,142,857
C
NMC
UFA - 7
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
$1,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
PIT
Johnson, Jack
$3,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
SJS
Meier, Timo
$6,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 4
SJS
Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
$7,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
STL
Parayko, Colton
$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
STL
Faulk, Justin
$4,150,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
TBL
Point, Brayden
$6,750,000
C, RW
RFA - 3
TBL
Vasilevskiy, Andrei
$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, C
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 6
VAN
Demko, Thatcher
$1,050,000
G
RFA - 2
VAN
Eriksson, Loui
$6,000,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
VGK
Theodore, Shea
$5,200,000
LD
UFA - 6
VGK
Karlsson, William
$5,900,000
C
UFA - 8
WSH
Vrána, Jakub
$3,350,000
LW
RFA - 2
WSH
Kuznetsov, Evgeny
$7,800,000
C
NTC
UFA - 6
WPG
Copp, Andrew
$2,280,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
WPG
Hellebuyck, Connor
$6,166,666
G
UFA - 5

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Nov 19 at 12:11
#51
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 2,205
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Being good defensively isn’t the same as being a selke candidate or don’t you understand the difference also? Haha man you might be worse than him. You guys dating? Why are you defending him? I would understand if he had a point but you’re helping him argue that a circle block goes into the square spot. You guys should just text message you terrible ideas to each other instead


so if the selke trophy isn't awarded based off defensive abilities, what is it based off then?
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Nov 19 at 12:12
#52
best poster
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Quoting: AFOX10900
so if the selke trophy isn't awarded based off defensive abilities, what is it based off then?


Being named Patrice Bergeron or Mark Stone.
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Nov 19 at 12:12
#53
Analytics are good
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,882
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Bro I honestly lost interest In this. You are pulling out the dumbest stats. Since 2007? How is that applying to this year? Man you are so off topic it’s annoying


Just because you don't understand what the other person is saying doesn't mean it's off topic
Nov 19 at 12:13
#54
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 6,069
Likes: 1,305
Quoting: Capitalfail67
He said ZAR and Copp are selke contenders


I KNEW there was a reason I'd blocked this guy!
Nov 19 at 12:13
#55
Analytics are good
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,882
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
He plays 10 minutes..... this is why people hate advanced stat guys. Okay so he’s 27th meaning that there is 26 people better already. How is that fall into Selke candidate? Do they pick 1 from every team? Haha


Genuine question. Do you know how to read?
Nov 19 at 12:15
#56
Analytics are good
Joined: Jan 2018
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
He plays 10 minutes..... this is why people hate advanced stat guys. Okay so he’s 27th meaning that there is 26 people better already. How is that fall into Selke candidate? Do they pick 1 from every team? Haha


Oh wow the mighty TOI argument.
Nov 19 at 12:15
#57
Analytics are good
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,882
Likes: 719
Quoting: CD282
I KNEW there was a reason I'd blocked this guy!


I block person because they show stats that go against my agenda.

A+ logic
Nov 19 at 12:15
#58
Thread Starter
DeBrincat > Kane
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 927
Likes: 328
Quoting: CD282
I KNEW there was a reason I'd blocked this guy!


>blocking people because they show how shiddy your agendas are
Nov 19 at 12:17
#59
Analytics are good
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,882
Likes: 719
Quoting: CD282
The Oilers "worst" contract has 12 goals in 22 games... tied for 9th in the league!! cheers


Oilers worst contract is living off the PP and a high shot%, he'll regress and then everyone will see how trash he is again
Nov 19 at 12:17
#60
Thread Starter
DeBrincat > Kane
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 927
Likes: 328
Quoting: CD282
The Oilers "worst" contract has 12 goals in 22 games... tied for 9th in the league!! cheers


scoring goals =/= good player
Nov 19 at 12:17
#61
Joined: Mar 2017
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Likes: 1,305
Quoting: PenGoater99
Oilers worst contract is living off the PP and a high shot%, he'll regress and then everyone will see how trash he is again


tears of joy
Nov 19 at 12:21
#62
Analytics are good
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Posts: 2,882
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Quoting: CD282
tears of joy


Nice counter-argument. I'm still waiting if you have any statistical proof to show that he's worth that contract
Nov 19 at 12:22
#63
Caps fan idk why
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 4,520
Likes: 1,389
Quoting: PenGoater99
Just because you don't understand what the other person is saying doesn't mean it's off topic


Quoting: CD282
I KNEW there was a reason I'd blocked this guy!


Quoting: PenGoater99
Genuine question. Do you know how to read?


Quoting: PenGoater99
Oh wow the mighty TOI argument.


Quoting: PenGoater99
I block person because they show stats that go against my agenda.

A+ logic


Quoting: kopiino
>blocking people because they show how shiddy your agendas are


Quoting: kopiino
scoring goals =/= good player


Quoting: CD282
tears of joy



Since when is xGA the deciding factor in a player winning the Selke or not? This is one of many factors yet all you choose to focus on this and only this. I wish you still had me blocked. It’s funny to see you all try to hype this up so much
Nov 19 at 12:23
#64
Thread Starter
DeBrincat > Kane
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 927
Likes: 328
Quoting: PenGoater99
Oilers worst contract is living off the PP and a high shot%, he'll regress and then everyone will see how trash he is again


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no see, hes so good!

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see!!!
Nov 19 at 12:23
#65
Analytics are good
Joined: Jan 2018
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Since when is xGA the deciding factor in a player winning the Selke or not? This is one of many factors yet all you choose to focus on this and only this. I wish you still had me blocked. It’s funny to see you all try to hype this up so much


It's almost like xGA shows how good a player has been defensively.
Nov 19 at 12:23
#66
Thread Starter
DeBrincat > Kane
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 927
Likes: 328
Quoting: Capitalfail67
Since when is xGA the deciding factor in a player winning the Selke or not? This is one of many factors yet all you choose to focus on this and only this. I wish you still had me blocked. It’s funny to see you all try to hype this up so much


so are you gonna answer any of the questions we asked? or.....?
Nov 19 at 12:29
#67
Caps fan idk why
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 4,520
Likes: 1,389
Quoting: kopiino
so are you gonna answer any of the questions we asked? or.....?


1) common sense tells you ZAR isnt a selke candidate and only focusing on xGA is idiotic
2) Kahun is arguably better than ZAR. He has the beta TA/GA IN THE NHL.
Nov 19 at 12:32
#68
Joined: Apr 2018
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When was the last time a 4th liner was even a finalist for the Selke?

I honestly did not look, but I am guessing that the answer rhymes with "clever"
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Nov 19 at 12:36
#69
Caps fan idk why
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 4,520
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Quoting: Yojimbo
When was the last time a 4th liner was even a finalist for the Selke?

I honestly did not look, but I am guessing that the answer rhymes with "clever"


Oh no ZAR AND COPP are the 2 best defensive players to come to the Nhl. If you only focus on xGA and not:

Zone start zone finish ratio
Toi ( a guy said this doesn’t matter)
Qualcomp
Corsi (if you don’t read too much into it)
Block shots
Turnover ratio
Hits
Points
Nov 19 at 12:39
#70
Thread Starter
DeBrincat > Kane
Joined: Jul 2018
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Oh no ZAR AND COPP are the 2 best defensive players to come to the Nhl. If you only focus on xGA and not:

Zone start zone finish ratio
Toi ( a guy said this doesn’t matter)
Qualcomp
Corsi (if you don’t read too much into it)
Block shots
Turnover ratio
Hits
Points


copp and ZAR are both top 5 in CA/60
time on ice has nothing to do with defense
they both play against the other teams best players for a lot of their shifts
points gave nothing to do with defense
Nov 19 at 12:41
#71
Let'sGoBlues | WPGv4
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Quoting: JayBeagleFanAccount
Hes the best forward in xGA (225 minutes played) this season and on pace for the 27th best xGA season by a forward since 2007. I know reading comprehension is tough when you actually have to use your brain.


ah the classic cut-off of 225 minutes to leave out a player on his own team with a better xGA/60 in 33 less 5v5 minutes. Kahun 4 Selke
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Nov 19 at 1:23
#72
best poster
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zach aston reese is better than evgeny kuznetsov
Nov 19 at 1:24
#73
Who adds what?
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Quoting: JayBeagleFanAccount
You still havent provided an argument for why ZAR shouldnt be a Selke contender this year


A few lucky bounces and easy matchups can swing defensive stats, especially through just 20 or so games. Too early to discuss. Glad to hear he can eat again.
Nov 19 at 3:44
#74
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I mentioned this in another thread but I'll bring it up here as well.

The Selke trophy is an opinion based award from a select group of people. If the PHWA was comprised of people who put all their faith in analytics, the award WOULD go to guys like ZAR/Copp for example...... and who would we be to argue otherwise? They are ones that choose. You can disagree but that doesn't mean your right either.

Judging by previous nominees and winners though, its painfully clear they are not people who use analytics to completely form their opinion so how can anyone claim to say a player like ZAR/Copp should win the Selke based on analytics that not everyone in a position of authority even agree upon as a standard?

If the argument was if ZAR/Copp are having a very good defensive seasons this year, would anyone disagree that they aren't? I don't think so. That has no bearing on how many minutes they've played or better yet you could use any level factor we could agree upon just to say a player is having a good season in any particular category and it be fine. I haven't personally watched enough of them this season to form my opinion but based on what the analytics show, i wouldn't discredit it either. but that's not what we're all talking about, is it? Its whether ZAR/Copp would win the Selke and I've already addressed why that isn't probable.

As for the AGM in particular, most of them are pretty valid, I mean there is no eye test nor analytic that could say Seabrook is not a huge anchor for his team right now but some of them others are hard to agree with. Especially (mainly) without knowing how you are value weighing what makes a contract good or bad based on the players on ice and off ice performance overall.
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Nov 19 at 3:56
#75
Joined: Jun 2018
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Quoting: F50marco
I mentioned this in another thread but I'll bring it up here as well.

The Selke trophy is an opinion based award from a select group of people. If the PHWA was comprised of people who put all their faith in analytics, the award WOULD go to guys like ZAR/Copp for example...... and who would we be to argue otherwise? They are ones that choose. You can disagree but that doesn't mean your right either.

Judging by previous nominees and winners though, its painfully clear they are not people who use analytics to completely form their opinion so how can anyone claim to say a player like ZAR/Copp should win the Selke based on analytics that not everyone in a position of authority even agree upon as a standard?

If the argument was if ZAR/Copp are having a very good defensive seasons this year, would anyone disagree that they aren't? I don't think so. That has no bearing on how many minutes they've played or better yet you could use any level factor we could agree upon just to say a player is having a good season in any particular category and it be fine. I haven't personally watched enough of them this season to form my opinion but based on what the analytics show, i wouldn't discredit it either. but that's not what we're all talking about, is it? Its whether ZAR/Copp would win the Selke and I've already addressed why that isn't probable.

As for the AGM in particular, most of them are pretty valid, I mean there is no eye test nor analytic that could say Seabrook is not a huge anchor for his team right now but some of them others are hard to agree with. Especially (mainly) without knowing how you are value weighing what makes a contract good or bad based on the players on ice and off ice performance overall.


Should != Would... Gibson SHOULD win the Vezina (probably), but will he... No, probably not...
 
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