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Two Deadline Deals

Created by: Rodzikhockey93
Initial Creation Date: Nov 18, 2019
Published: Nov 18 at 11:49 pm
Team: 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers
Trades
EDM
  1. Athanasiou, Andreas
DET
  1. Benning, Matthew
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
OTT
  1. Granlund, Markus
  2. Archibald, Josh
  3. Benson, Tyler
  4. 2020 3rd round pick (EDM)
  5. 2021 6th round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. 2020 5th round pick (WPG)
ARI
  1. Brodziak, Kyle
  2. 2021 7th round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
  • Andrej Sekera: $2,500,000
  • Benoit Pouliot: $1,333,333
  • Eric Gryba: $300,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
EDM
EDM
EDM
WPG
EDM
2021
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
PIT
2022
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,356,999$0$2,477,500$143,001

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
EDM
Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 6
EDM
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
UFA - 7
EDM
Kassian, Zack
$1,950,000
RW
UFA - 1
DET
Athanasiou, Andreas
$3,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
EDM
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$6,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
EDM
Neal, James
$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
EDM
Khaira, Jujhar
$1,200,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
OTT
Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
$3,100,000
C
UFA - 1
EDM
Chiasson, Alex
$2,150,000
RW
UFA - 2
EDM
Nygård, Joakim
$925,000
LW
UFA - 1
EDM
Gagner, Sam
$3,150,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
EDM
Sheahan, Riley
$900,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
EDM
Klefbom, Oscar
$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 4
EDM
Larsson, Adam
$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 2
EDM
Koskinen, Mikko
$4,500,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
EDM
Nurse, Darnell
$3,200,000
LD
RFA - 1
EDM
Bear, Ethan
$720,000
RD
RFA - 1
EDM
Smith, Mike
$2,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
EDM
Manning, Brandon
$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 1
EDM
Russell, Kris
$4,000,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
EDM
Russell, Patrick
$700,000
RW
UFA - 1
EDM
Jones, Caleb
$720,000
LD
RFA - 1
EDM
Haas, Gaëtan
$925,000
C
UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Draisaitl, L.
Nugent-Hopkins, R.
Neal, J.
McDavid, C.
Klefbom, O.
Power Play 2
Athanasiou, A.
Pageau, J.
Sheahan, R.
 
 
Penalty Kill 1
 
 
Nurse, D.
 

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Nov 18 at 11:58
#1
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You want the guy that is on pace for the worst defensive guy in league history!
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Nov 19 at 12:18
#2
Bringer_Of_Snow
Joined: Apr 2016
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I make those trades as an Oiler fan without hesitating. Pretty sure Detroit values AA really highly and would want more, not that he’s even available though.

Oilers missed out on JGP. Should have made a move for him early, before he started putting numbers up
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Nov 19 at 2:46
#3
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Edited Nov 19 at 3:04
Quoting: Bringer_Of_Snow
Pretty sure Detroit values AA really highly and would want more, not that he’s even available though.


As a Wings fan I have to say you hit the nail on the head. His slow start landed him on the trading block but 8 points in his last 9 games is making a trade involving AA less likely. There is still a lot of hockey to be played so who knows. If they do trade AA most likely won't be until the TDL.
Nov 19 at 7:02
#4
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Quoting: Bringer_Of_Snow
Oilers missed out on JGP. Should have made a move for him early, before he started putting numbers up


Meh. He's shooting 25% right now - it won't last. By TDL he'll have come back to earth and be his typical 30-point self again and his price will be more reasonable.
Nov 19 at 7:19
#5
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Quoting: aedoran
As a Wings fan I have to say you hit the nail on the head. His slow start landed him on the trading block but 8 points in his last 9 games is making a trade involving AA less likely. There is still a lot of hockey to be played so who knows. If they do trade AA most likely won't be until the TDL.


He's still a black hole defensively. You can't win with that on your team. His on-ice GF-GA at 5v5 in the past 9 games: 6 GF - 11 GA. His GA/60 this season is 5.02, the 4th worst number in the league for forwards.

Not saying Detroit should take this deal, but if someone offers you fair value for this player you don't look back, IMO.
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Nov 19 at 10:40
#6
Go Wings Go
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Posts: 16,453
Likes: 1,865
laugh laugh Benning is trash, AA would cost you at least Broberg if not more. Benning+2nd is a royal joke for a player that would come with a long term extension here.
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Nov 19 at 10:42
#7
Go Wings Go
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Quoting: CD282
He's still a black hole defensively. You can't win with that on your team. His on-ice GF-GA at 5v5 in the past 9 games: 6 GF - 11 GA. His GA/60 this season is 5.02, the 4th worst number in the league for forwards.

Not saying Detroit should take this deal, but if someone offers you fair value for this player you don't look back, IMO.


Yeah well Benning+2nd isn't a fair deal for AA, Nowhere even close to being a fair deal Benning is trash and we don't need him.
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Nov 19 at 11:05
#8
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Yeah well Benning+2nd isn't a fair deal for AA, Nowhere even close to being a fair deal Benning is trash and we don't need him.


Benning is worth a 2nd, so you're getting two 2nds for AA. I'm sure Yzerman asks for more, but I'm not sure who will pay more. Maybe someone who can't read a spreadsheet and whose pro scouts are legally blind?
Nov 19 at 11:07
#9
Joined: Dec 2017
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Quoting: CD282
He's still a black hole defensively. You can't win with that on your team. His on-ice GF-GA at 5v5 in the past 9 games: 6 GF - 11 GA. His GA/60 this season is 5.02, the 4th worst number in the league for forwards.

Not saying Detroit should take this deal, but if someone offers you fair value for this player you don't look back, IMO.


So does AA suck? Or Do you want to see him traded to Edmonton?

Because when you try to convince Detroit fans that AA is awful and should be traded and turn around and want him traded to Edmonton you sound like a fool.
Nov 19 at 11:09
#10
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Quoting: aedoran
So does AA suck? Or Do you want to see him traded to Edmonton?

Because when you try to convince Detroit fans that AA is awful and should be traded and turn around and want him traded to Edmonton you sound like a fool.


The more I look into his stats the more I don't want him. But, of course, any trade has to be looked at with regards to the price.
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Nov 19 at 11:16
#11
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Quoting: CD282
The more I look into his stats the more I don't want him. But, of course, any trade has to be looked at with regards to the price.


So what's pool party's value?
Nov 19 at 11:17
#12
Go Wings Go
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Quoting: CD282
Benning is worth a 2nd, so you're getting two 2nds for AA. I'm sure Yzerman asks for more, but I'm not sure who will pay more. Maybe someone who can't read a spreadsheet and whose pro scouts are legally blind?


Benning whom has 58 points in 227 games and is a 3rd pairing Dman is worth a 2nd, laugh Yeah hardly.
Nov 19 at 11:20
#13
Go Wings Go
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Like i stated in previous threads, If Yzerman were to deal AA it would be for a younger player. Not the same age or older then AA.
Nov 19 at 12:02
#14
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Quoting: aedoran
So what's pool party's value?


I don't know. I understand Holland is asking for a decent forward prospect + a 2nd. It sounds like there are teams interested at that price, they just haven't agreed on the quality of the prospect yet. Puljujarvi has said recently that he expects to be in Finland the entire season which is likely because he must sign by December 1st in order to play in the NHL this season - and that's just 11 days away.
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Nov 19 at 12:12
#15
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Benning whom has 58 points in 227 games and is a 3rd pairing Dman is worth a 2nd, laugh Yeah hardly.


Ok boomer.

- Carolina paid a 2nd for TVR
- Buffalo paid a 2nd + a 5th for Colin Miller
- In a re-draft Benning would be picked about 35-40th, that's early 2nd round material.
- The average 2nd round pick has about a 25% chance of playing 200+ NHL games, which Benning just surpassed recently.

Now read this comp of the 3 players: https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/281171&post_id=1137703
Nov 19 at 12:52
#16
Go Wings Go
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Quoting: CD282
Ok boomer.

- Carolina paid a 2nd for TVR
- Buffalo paid a 2nd + a 5th for Colin Miller
- In a re-draft Benning would be picked about 35-40th, that's early 2nd round material.
- The average 2nd round pick has about a 25% chance of playing 200+ NHL games, which Benning just surpassed recently.

Now read this comp of the 3 players: https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/281171&post_id=1137703


Dude he's a 6th round pick and a bottom pairing Dman that's not worth a 2nd i'm sorry. Benning to us isn't worth a 2nd round pick. Detroit already has tons of bottom pairing Dmen within their system. Sorry Benning isn't a need period.
Nov 19 at 12:57
#17
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Dude he's a 6th round pick and a bottom pairing Dman that's not worth a 2nd i'm sorry. Benning to us isn't worth a 2nd round pick. Detroit already has tons of bottom pairing Dmen within their system. Sorry Benning isn't a need period.


Read the link. Where he was drafted means absolutely nothing vis-a-vis his value today. Slavin was drafted in the 4th round of the same draft, does that mean I can get him for a 4th? smh.
Nov 19 at 12:59
#18
Go Wings Go
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Quoting: CD282
Read the link. Where he was drafted means absolutely nothing vis-a-vis his value today. Slavin was drafted in the 4th round of the same draft, does that mean I can get him for a 4th? smh.


Bottom line he's a 3rd pairing RHD that Detroit has tons of, He's still not worth a 2nd to us.
Nov 19 at 1:04
#19
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Bottom line he's a 3rd pairing RHD that Detroit has tons of, He's still not worth a 2nd to us.


Sure, if you want to run AHLer McIlrath as a regular, you go right ahead.
 
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