You can easily make a case for a lot of different guys for the 7-20 spot in the nhl for best center. Some people focus only on scoring. Some people only focus on corsi and advanced stats and ignore what’s actually happening. Some people like complete players. Some people like winners (cups). It’s all opinions just some people base their off facts and others off fairytales ha

It was impossible not to I had to shoot my shot haha

Well said, I didn't have time to type out this analysis lol

he is not a liability in his own end. every single player you mentioned plays on a line with better teammates than Matthews has ever had. Prime malkin was better. "Carrying" the penguins into having 2 more points than the leafs who are struggling worse than ever. Point plays with freakin kuch and stammer and still can't produce at a higher p/pg and g/pg. Scheifele is not better, and again plays with wheeler every year.

Anyways, the entire basis of your argument is wrong. Matthews doesn't play with better players than any of these guys, and you clearly can't wrap your head around the fact that Matthews is good in his own end. Not saying he's Crosby or Bergeron on D, but he's no liability in his own end, thats for sure. Believe me, I watch nearly every leafs game, and every night Matthews is the most dominant all across the board- he plays well in his own end. You can't blame all the defensive dysfunction of the team on Matthews. in this 5 game skid where the rest of the team has been terrible, he has 5pts in 8 games, and has a +/- of +2.

he is not a liability in his own end. every single player you mentioned plays on a line with better teammates than Matthews has ever had. Prime malkin was better. "Carrying" the penguins into having 2 more points than the leafs who are struggling worse than ever. Point plays with freakin kuch and stammer and still can't produce at a higher p/pg and g/pg. Scheifele is not better, and again plays with wheeler every year.

Anyways, the entire basis of your argument is wrong. Matthews doesn't play with better players than any of these guys, and you clearly can't wrap your head around the fact that Matthews is good in his own end. Not saying he's Crosby or Bergeron on D, but he's no liability in his own end, thats for sure. Believe me, I watch nearly every leafs game, and every night Matthews is the most dominant all across the board- he plays well in his own end. You can't blame all the defensive dysfunction of the team on Matthews. in this 5 game skid where the rest of the team has been terrible, he has 5pts in 8 games, and has a +/- of +2.

he is not a liability in his own end. every single player you mentioned plays on a line with better teammates than Matthews has ever had. Prime malkin was better. "Carrying" the penguins into having 2 more points than the leafs who are struggling worse than ever. Point plays with freakin kuch and stammer and still can't produce at a higher p/pg and g/pg. Scheifele is not better, and again plays with wheeler every year.

Anyways, the entire basis of your argument is wrong. Matthews doesn't play with better players than any of these guys, and you clearly can't wrap your head around the fact that Matthews is good in his own end. Not saying he's Crosby or Bergeron on D, but he's no liability in his own end, thats for sure. Believe me, I watch nearly every leafs game, and every night Matthews is the most dominant all across the board- he plays well in his own end. You can't blame all the defensive dysfunction of the team on Matthews. in this 5 game skid where the rest of the team has been terrible, he has 5pts in 8 games, and has a +/- of +2.

Couldn’t agree more with yah on this one, everyone tells me that the +/- stat is meaningless but no it shows how many goals +/- that u have been on the ice for or against

Tavares took a discount for Toronto as a UFA... scored 47 goals last year. 9 mil at the most you've got to be joking

I think its only useful in certain situations... when the team around you is playing awful but you're still on for more goals than against it shows your impact, or else you and your line mates impact. but in Matthew's case, he's by far the best player on his line