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AA Valuation

Created by: BigOaf69
Initial Creation Date: Nov 19, 2019
Published: Nov 19, 2019 at 7:41
Team: 2019-20 Detroit Red Wings
Team Explanation
Grind Line Podcast said on twitter the asking price for AA from Montreal should be "a 1st and a prospect" and even through out Cole Caufield's name! i think this is an EXTREME overvaluation for an average player who seems amazing because he is fast
Buyouts
  • Stephen Weiss: $1,666,667
  • Xavier Ouellet: $216,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Mike Green: $2,687,500 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
DET
DET
WSH
DET
SJS
DET
DET
DET
2021
DET
DET
DET
VGK
DET
DET
DET
DET
2022
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
28$81,500,000$80,404,501$145,000$2,315,000$1,095,499
Left WingCenterRight Wing
DET
Abdelkader, Justin
$4,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
DET
Larkin, Dylan
$6,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
DET
Franzen, Johan
$3,954,545
RW, LW
UFA - 1
DET
Bertuzzi, Tyler
$1,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
DET
Zetterberg, Henrik
$6,083,333
C
UFA - 2
DET
Mantha, Anthony
$3,300,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
DET
Erne, Adam
$1,050,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
DET
Nielsen, Frans
$5,250,000
C
NTC
UFA - 3
DET
Perlini, Brendan
$874,125
RW, LW
RFA - 1
DET
Hirose, Taro
$925,000
LW
RFA - 1
DET
Helm, Darren
$3,850,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
DET
Fabbri, Robby
$900,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
DET
Athanasiou, Andreas
$3,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
DET
Smith, Givani
$714,166
LW
RFA - 2
DET
Filppula, Valtteri
$3,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
DET
Glendening, Luke
$1,800,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
DET
DeKeyser, Danny
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
DET
Green, Mike
$2,687,500
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
DET
Howard, Jimmy
$4,000,000
G
UFA - 1
DET
Ericsson, Jonathan
$4,250,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
DET
Daley, Trevor
$3,166,666
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
DET
Bernier, Jonathan
$3,000,000
G
UFA - 2
DET
Nemeth, Patrik
$3,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
DET
Bowey, Madison
$1,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
DET
Cholowski, Dennis
$894,166
LD
RFA - 2
DET
Biega, Alex
$825,000
RD
UFA - 1
DET
Hronek, Filip
$714,166
RD
RFA - 2
DET
McIlrath, Dylan
$700,000
RD
UFA - 2

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Nov 19, 2019 at 7:43
#1
Wqrrior
Wqrrior
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cole caufield defines over-evaluation
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Nov 19, 2019 at 7:45
#2
BigOaf69
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Quoting: Wqrrior
cole caufield defines over-evaluation


yup breaking records in the National Development Program and 15 points in 12 games as a freshman, you hate to see it
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Nov 19, 2019 at 7:54
#3
Wqrrior
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Quoting: BigOaf69
yup breaking records in the National Development Program and 15 points in 12 games as a freshman, you hate to see it


still college players. Hughes was bounced around coming from that environment to the NHL... yeah he found his ground but is still not doing nearly what he was hyped to do. And he is a much more skilled forward. Caufield has a Boeser-like shot in a kid's body. It won't take much in this league to get to an individual like that. He might be a Hoffman-type powerplay specialist, but I cannot see him being that elite gamebreaking forward that habs fans see him to be.
Nov 19, 2019 at 7:59
#4
Jfstompers
Joined: Feb 2018
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so AA is far from just fast. he has good hands and is a better than average finisher and offensive player. that being said id trade him but to help the blue line not for more forwards
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Nov 19, 2019 at 7:59
#5
Hurricanes73
Marner Kermit Fetish
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Quoting: Wqrrior
cole caufield defines over-evaluation


preach
Nov 19, 2019 at 7:59
#6
BigOaf69
Thread Starter
BigOaf69
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Quoting: Wqrrior
still college players. Hughes was bounced around coming from that environment to the NHL... yeah he found his ground but is still not doing nearly what he was hyped to do. And he is a much more skilled forward. Caufield has a Boeser-like shot in a kid's body. It won't take much in this league to get to an individual like that. He might be a Hoffman-type powerplay specialist, but I cannot see him being that elite gamebreaking forward that habs fans see him to be.


im sure you said the same about Debrincat and Gaudreau, wherever he plays, he scores and im sure everyone doubted him at every level hes played at
Nov 19, 2019 at 8:06
#7
aedoran
Joined: Dec 2017
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Quoting: Jfstompers
so AA is far from just fast. he has good hands and is a better than average finisher and offensive player. that being said id trade him but to help the blue line not for more forwards


I completely agree if he's moved its for a good young defenseman.
Nov 19, 2019 at 8:25
#8
DiehardRedWingsFan58
Go Wings Go
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 23,256
Likes: 4,102
Quoting: Wqrrior
cole caufield defines over-evaluation


That he does.
Nov 19, 2019 at 8:50
#9
CD282
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 9,915
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"Seems good because he's fast" - perfect!
Nov 19, 2019 at 8:51
#10
CD282
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Quoting: BigOaf69
im sure you said the same about Debrincat and Gaudreau, wherever he plays, he scores and im sure everyone doubted him at every level hes played at


As is NOT worth Caufield alone, let alone adding a 1st. Don't let these Detroit fans tell you otherwise.
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Nov 19, 2019 at 9:28
#11
Wqrrior
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Quoting: CD282
As is NOT worth Caufield alone, let alone adding a 1st. Don't let these Detroit fans tell you otherwise.


I'm not even a detroit fan. I don't think AA is 2nd line/top 6 quality enough yet. I also don't think they are looking to move him.

However I don't like that people view Caufield as the next best thing in hockey. A good prospect, sure. A great shot, sure. Team defining? No.
Nov 19, 2019 at 9:40
#12
Hedman77
#DisruptTheNight
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Quoting: BigOaf69
yup breaking records in the National Development Program and 15 points in 12 games as a freshman, you hate to see it


caufield is as hyped as he is because of one game imo
Nov 19, 2019 at 9:59
#13
BigOaf69
Thread Starter
BigOaf69
Joined: Mar 2018
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Quoting: Hedman77
caufield is as hyped as he is because of one game imo


1 game? not the 64 where he scored 72 or the 7 where he scored 14 (U18 tournament)
Nov 19, 2019 at 10:42
#14
GenericUsername489
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Joined: Jun 2019
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Could probably get Brook and a 1st/2nd for AA.
Nov 20, 2019 at 6:53
#15
CD282
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Quoting: Wqrrior
I'm not even a detroit fan. I don't think AA is 2nd line/top 6 quality enough yet. I also don't think they are looking to move him.

However I don't like that people view Caufield as the next best thing in hockey. A good prospect, sure. A great shot, sure. Team defining? No.


I don't think he's "team defining" either, but I do think he has more value than Athanasiou.
Nov 21, 2019 at 9:33
#16
RC_Tendy
Ryan
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Being average with speed doesnt get you a 30 goal season, just ask Darren Helm. AA is very skilled forward. Dont be dumb.
 
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