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Trade for Hall

Created by: RangerWall92
Team: 2019-20 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 20, 2019
Published: Nov. 20, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
NJD
  1. Bowers, Shane
  2. Newhook, Alex [Reserve List]
  3. 2021 1st round pick (COL)
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (COL)
2.
COL
  1. 2020 4th round pick (EDM)
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$72,584,761$0$3,532,500$8,915,239
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,571,429$5,571,429
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
UFA - 4
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 6
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
RW
UFA - 4
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$885,833$885,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,975,000$1,975,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 2
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$3,450,000$3,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RD
UFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$735,000$735,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$850,000$850,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C
RFA - 1

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Nov. 20, 2019 at 12:37 p.m.
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Bo Horvat enjoyer
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Avs fans r gonna b calling for ur head, even though it’s not a bad trade
Nov. 20, 2019 at 12:45 p.m.
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Is this a rental or do you plan on signing him afterwards?
Nov. 20, 2019 at 12:46 p.m.
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If he comes with an extension that's fair value
Nov. 20, 2019 at 12:47 p.m.
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Quoting: avsjunkie11
Is this a rental or do you plan on signing him afterwards?


11M extension 7years
Nov. 20, 2019 at 12:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Schlegel
If he comes with an extension that's fair value


11M extension 7years
Nov. 20, 2019 at 12:51 p.m.
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Quoting: RangerWall92
11M extension 7years


You should make another AGM with this extension to show how bad of an idea that is 2 offseasons from now when Landy, Makar and Grubauer need new contracts (raises).
Nov. 20, 2019 at 12:55 p.m.
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If it costs us Newhook I don't want to do it. I understand this is probably fair value but I am just not up for trading away futures yet and adding 11mil for 7 yrs under our cap while we have Landeskog and Makar to re-sign in just under a couple years and MacKinnon a couple years after that. The Avs are proving that they have created some great depth as of late with Landeskog and Rantanen injured. I'd rather the Avs get a solid 3C. One who is very strong sitting as a 3C but could play 2C well if need be.
Nov. 20, 2019 at 12:55 p.m.
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Quoting: avsjunkie11
You should make another AGM with this extension to show how bad of an idea that is 2 offseasons from now when Landy, Makar and Grubauer need new contracts (raises).


I'll do a 3 year ACGM challenge.
Nov. 20, 2019 at 12:58 p.m.
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I'll do a 3 year ACGM challenge.


Can't wait to see them.
Nov. 20, 2019 at 1:00 p.m.
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Quoting: RangerWall92
11M extension 7years


Big time over-pay and I agree w "Junkie" on the key upcoming payouts listed above. As well, those kinda deals are not in Sakic's play-book.
Hall had one good year and the others - meh! He's injury prone (should be even more-so in his 30s) and will be 29 years old at the start of the 7 year boat-anchor contract!
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Nov. 22, 2019 at 12:39 p.m.
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Quoting: BlastnyFromThePastny
If it costs us Newhook I don't want to do it. I understand this is probably fair value but I am just not up for trading away futures yet and adding 11mil for 7 yrs under our cap while we have Landeskog and Makar to re-sign in just under a couple years and MacKinnon a couple years after that. The Avs are proving that they have created some great depth as of late with Landeskog and Rantanen injured. I'd rather the Avs get a solid 3C. One who is very strong sitting as a 3C but could play 2C well if need be.


Who are you thinking for 3C? compher hasn't really impressed me too much so i'd be up for something new there. I'd be fine with a rental, or someone with 2 years left so newhook can battle for that spot after a couple college seasons.
Nov. 22, 2019 at 2:58 p.m.
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Who are you thinking for 3C? compher hasn't really impressed me too much so i'd be up for something new there. I'd be fine with a rental, or someone with 2 years left so newhook can battle for that spot after a couple college seasons.


He isn't that underwhelming right now, mind you he's been playing more RW minutes. Actually, Bellemare is not a bad choice as a 3rd line C for this year. He is playing very well and wins more faceoffs than Compher. If our third line was Nieto, Bellemare, Compher and our 4th line was Calvert, Kamenev, Nichushkin (when fully healthy). I wouldn't mind that. Next year, it can be Compher's spot to fight for and Bellemare could return to 4C for the rest of his contract.
Nov. 22, 2019 at 4:51 p.m.
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Quoting: BlastnyFromThePastny
He isn't that underwhelming right now, mind you he's been playing more RW minutes. Actually, Bellemare is not a bad choice as a 3rd line C for this year. He is playing very well and wins more faceoffs than Compher. If our third line was Nieto, Bellemare, Compher and our 4th line was Calvert, Kamenev, Nichushkin (when fully healthy). I wouldn't mind that. Next year, it can be Compher's spot to fight for and Bellemare could return to 4C for the rest of his contract.


Yeah but if he was playing better i think he would be getting more center minutes. Mostly i would say his goal output is not where it should be, not like we're expecting him to score 30+ or anything but after 20 games he's got 2, so that's not ideal pace. I don't think belly has played bad either but him nieto and calvert were working magic for us before all the injuries, so i'd think when we are healthy we are going back to that on the 4th/3rd line which would land him 3C. It will be nice when everyone is back so we can actually have players playing in their roles.
 
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