Its MTL. The fans have always been this way and always will be

Who's he being traded for when they refuse ? Hall ?

So we're supposed to be overjoyed with trading our best prospect for a pending UFA who likely doesn't re-sign with the team in the summer ?

This is by far the hardest fanbase to negotiate with on this platform. I don't think the sense of trade value is understood because everyone who wears the habs sweater or is expected to immediately is elevated beyond their real worth by the fans. Obviously we don't expect a trade for someone who doesn't work just because the value is fair, however the value being placed on Caufield is immediately far greater than it should be. He's no McDavid... Eichel... Draisaitl... Pettersson
You won't be getting a Galchenyuk for Domi trade every time.

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Or maybe some people just don’t want Hall. You can’t blame people/a team for not wanting to make a trade. Just because some people think it’s a good trade on paper doesn’t necessarily mean you should do it. That said, there are a considerable amount of habs fans that are complete idiots.

I personally am high on Caufield, but this is because I was high on him before the draft (I had him ranked 5th). People are entitled to their opinions on players, especially prospects, because they’ve never played in the NHL. The ridiculous people are those that changed their opinion on Caufield immediately after the draft (negatively or positively) without any hockey played at all.

I hate when people generalize a fanbase. A couple cooky nuts on Capfriendly are not a entire fanbase.

There are 2 points here that probably explain this.

Firstly the Habs fanbase is very, very large and tend to be divided on many issues. There will always be at least 1 who disagrees on just about anything someone proposes. I definitely get how that would seem frustrating from the outside, although believe me it often feels worse from the inside.

Secondly the Habs are currently doing very well and most fans probably don't see the need to rock the boat too much. Also the team has basically never had a good prospect pool (except for the class of 2007) since the early 90's and are therefore quite protective of it. Impatience has really been the bane of previous GMs and done more harm than good in the past imo *cough* McDonough for Gomez. Also trading multiple 1st and 2nd round picks for quick fixes when they should instead have been building around Price, Pacioretty, Subban, Markov and Plekanec with youth. Many of us fans would like them to have learned from those mistakes and not repeat them.

P.S. sorry about the long read, I just feel it's better I try to explain as thoroughly as I can to avoid as many misunderstandings as possible.

" hardest fanbase to negotiate with on this platform"
I referred to the small percentage of the fanbase that posts on this platform. Not the overall fanbase. And "hardest" doesn't mean everyone who comes here.

as to @kotkaniemi15 , I wasn't specifically referring to Hall in a trade. I don't even slightly expect that Cole will be traded any time in the next couple years at all - it's very rare first round picks are traded within 1-3 seasons to begin with. I'd be higher on the face in your profile or Suzuki over Caufield though - I find it difficult to believe he has what it takes to really succeed in this league. I am in common ground with the "The ridiculous people are those that changed their opinion on Caufield immediately after the draft (negatively or positively) without any hockey played at all." statement.

editout - another double post

I think my point overall is, don't be making this kid look like the next McDavid type player just because he is a Habs prospect. If he was drafted by pretty much any other team his value would be practically invisible, nevermind boasted about as seemingly self-proclaimed best prospect in the league. Appreciate your explanation though.

You aren't quoting anything I said or anything you said in your description so I have no idea what you are referencing.

All I know is because of a couple people on CF who value him highly, "I don't understand this fanbase". How about I disagree with X person and Y person?

I wouldn't trade Caulfield for Hall either for what its worth. Doesn't mean CC is right now worth more than Hall or better than he is. Just means I would rather keep Caulfield and risk to see what he turns into at the cost of not getting Hall. My interest in seeing what he becomes outweighs what we'd get in Hall IMO.

Also I'm not saying CC will be a lock to be a superstar but than again, saying he won't be is just as naive. Debrincat wasn't supposed to be a better goal scorer than Jesse Puljujarvi yet here we are.

Frankly, one of the main reasons you don't see many Habs fans wanting Hall (especially considered Caulfield always seems to be going the other way) is simply because the team already has a ton of forward depth. If Hall was a 26 minute a night 50-60 point left handed dman? I think you'd see a much more divisive response from Montreal fans...... Habs don't really need another winger plus they have to give up their most prized prospect?

have you been partying with Bobby Ryan? time to get some help

The thing is Cole Caufield could potentially fill out one of the 2 main needs of the Habs (PP and LHD). This is why Caufield is highly regarded by the Habs, especially after that Shaw for "DeBrincat" even though there's no guarantee they would've drafted DeBrincat had they kept their pick. Although I do agree that some Habs fan from AGM tends to overvalue it by thinking he's the next Maurice Rocket Richard. (as a Habs fan, it's very annoying to see a post where fellow Habs fan thinks Jesse Ylonen is "A prospect")

However, just because some fans say one thing doesn't mean the ENTIRE fanbase will agree upon that. I mean...EVERY fanbase has some fans that overvalued their favourite team's players but those fans don't represent the entire fanbase.

Believe me, right before the 2019 draft, I read an AGM post in which a Devils fans said their team's 2019 1st overall pick is worth at least Elias Pettersson and Vancouver's 2019 1st round pick.

Here are some other examples.,,
Overvaluing Ryan Murray or Kevin Fiala.
Timo Meier being worth a huge package because of his one good year.
Ryan Strome being overvalued just after 1 good season.
Rental Taylor Hall having more way value than a signed Mark Stone.
Shane Bowers valued as an "A prospect"

etc.

And what exactly is it that you know about MTL that proves your point?