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Blues Fans what do they want from Leafs

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Easy question, what is the most pressing need for the Blues right now?
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Nov. 24, 2019 at 11:42 a.m.
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Quoting: A_K
It could be as simple as Army knowing that with Petro's NTC his potential destinations would include toronto and he just wants to know what might be available if ideas change or negotiations on an extension go no where. Not every GM meeting is a frantic, massive discussion.


I think we have a winner. This makes good sense to me.
Nov. 24, 2019 at 11:45 a.m.
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Just very unrealistic that defending champs are going to trade one of their 2 best defenders and hurt their chances of defending the cup. It’s wishful thinking on Leafs fans part. I mean i want to win the lottery but...

Ya, Petro is UFA to be and they are in cap hell but they have options.

Is it possible, sure...anything is. But not to the point of the amount of time or posts about it on here. Kind if like the Pesce posts last year. There is a difference between speculating and dreaming.

The title asked what Blues fans wanted. My answer was as legit as it gets. Blues fans are not really interested in trading either of them and rather people stop trying.


Your answer had nothing to do with what the Blues want
It was what you want.
Nov. 24, 2019 at 11:48 a.m.
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Again, we're talking about a Parayko trade here. We aren't even looking for top 4 upgrades, and if we were, switching Parayko out for Dermott sure as hell ain't gonna do it.


You talk about Parayko like hes a God.
And people say Leafs fans overrate their players...
Nov. 24, 2019 at 11:50 a.m.
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Quoting: I4evrblue
Your answer had nothing to do with what the Blues want
It was what you want.


I could care less. It’s what Blues fans want, to keep them.
Nov. 24, 2019 at 11:50 a.m.
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
Spare parts for Parayko. Quality>Quantity bud Quality>Quantity that’s a EA Sports trade not actual business trade.


Dermott is FAR from spare parts.
Nov. 24, 2019 at 11:52 a.m.
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Quoting: Gofnut999
I could care less. It’s what Blues fans want, to keep them.


That wasn't even the question.
They're scouting the Leafs. The question was why, not what they wanted for Parayko or Pietrangelo.
Nov. 24, 2019 at 11:57 a.m.
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That wasn't even the question.
They're scouting the Leafs. The question was why, not what they wanted for Parayko or Pietrangelo.


And answer was a playful one....chill.

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Nov. 24, 2019 at 12:05 p.m.
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And answer was a playful one....chill.

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Hahaha yeah its me that has taken this too seriously.
Nov. 24, 2019 at 12:07 p.m.
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Quoting: I4evrblue
You talk about Parayko like hes a God.
And people say Leafs fans overrate their players...



Compared to Dermott, yeah, he is. And it's certainly not just Blues fans who will tell you this. FFS, this is not difficult at all. You are not getting Parayko for Dermott and a middle 6 winger. I cannot fathom how this reality is even remotely up for debate.
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Nov. 24, 2019 at 12:10 p.m.
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Compared to Dermott, yeah, he is. And it's certainly not just Blues fans who will tell you this. FFS, this is not difficult at all. You are not getting Parayko for Dermott and a middle 6 winger. I cannot fathom how this reality is even remotely up for debate.


Because its fun to talk about.
Why so angry?
Because people are proposing trades for your 2nd pair RD? Ones that include good young players at that? The shame of it!!! Lol
Nov. 24, 2019 at 12:17 p.m.
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Because its fun to talk about.
Why so angry?
Because people are proposing trades for your 2nd pair RD? Ones that include good young players at that? The shame of it!!! Lol



Umm... Parayko is a great young player. And a 1st pair RD. And aside from the delusional people that clog up the AGM list with same ad nauseum dreck, it's not fun for anyone on this site.
Nov. 24, 2019 at 12:23 p.m.
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Umm... Parayko is a great young player. And a 1st pair RD. And aside from the delusional people that clog up the AGM list with same ad nauseum dreck, it's not fun for anyone on this site.


Friendly reminder that you asked my opinion on who the Leafs might want and that started this. You knew the answer when you asked wasn't going to be Robert Bortuzzo hahaha
You never did answer the question originally proposed either so instead of having a discussion about which player Army might target you turned this into a "**** Leafs fans are stupid" thread. So whose fault is it that this is just another Parayko thread clogging up AGM? Mine or yours? Lol
For what its worth I am having fun lol
Nov. 24, 2019 at 4:27 p.m.
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Quoting: I4evrblue
Dermott is FAR from spare parts.


When a player who can top at 4 D-man I would say the entire trade is worth spare parts.
Nov. 24, 2019 at 5:16 p.m.
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When a player who can top at 4 D-man I would say the entire trade is worth spare parts.


You obviously have zero idea what you're talking about
Nov. 24, 2019 at 6:23 p.m.
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You obviously have zero idea what you're talking about


Top Pairing Defenseman for 2nd Pairing Ceiling a Middle 6 Ceiling and a Bottom 6 ceiling. Stop trying to over advertise an appeasement on your prospects that they have no business actually being ???
Nov. 25, 2019 at 6:53 a.m.
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Top Pairing Defenseman for 2nd Pairing Ceiling a Middle 6 Ceiling and a Bottom 6 ceiling. Stop trying to over advertise an appeasement on your prospects that they have no business actually being ???


Again, clueless evaluation. You have no idea what you're talking about
Nov. 25, 2019 at 9:20 a.m.
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Again, clueless evaluation. You have no idea what you're talking about


I actually do bro. No way is Dermott have a Top Line Ceiling. Dermott is 22, and hasn't even gotten close to his so called "Top Pairing Ceiling" give it up already he isn't top ceiling Sandin and Liljegren sure, but Dermott no. When it comes to if I want Parayko or Dermott. I'd take Parayko. Because Parayko is a Top Pairing. Dermott isn't. Obviously you do not know what you are talking about. Get your crap on bias road.
Nov. 26, 2019 at 11:15 a.m.
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I actually do bro. No way is Dermott have a Top Line Ceiling. Dermott is 22, and hasn't even gotten close to his so called "Top Pairing Ceiling" give it up already he isn't top ceiling Sandin and Liljegren sure, but Dermott no. When it comes to if I want Parayko or Dermott. I'd take Parayko. Because Parayko is a Top Pairing. Dermott isn't. Obviously you do not know what you are talking about. Get your crap on bias road.


Settle down big fella
There's a reason Dermott hasn't gotten a chance at a top pairing job. He's always had good players in front of him so management has been able to ease him in. Watch a few games, the guy is really good and better than his placement in the lineup.
I'd obviously pick Parayko too, have you forgotten that that's what this is about? Parayko is better but comparing a 26 year old and a 22 year old is a fools game. Nobody will know what Dermott is, as compared to Parayko, for another 4 years.
The better route would be to compare the two when they were 22. When Parayko was 22 he was a rookie, just breaking into the league, Dermott has a full year under his belt, another half year when he broke in and is working on another full one. He was better earlier and hasn't nearly topped out.
But you wouldn't know any of this because, again, you're clueless as to what you're talking about. You're just swept away with the idea that Leafs players are garbage because everybody on this site likes to trash the Leafs and their fans. At the end of the day you're unable to step back and look at things objectively because of it.
Nov. 26, 2019 at 12:22 p.m.
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Settle down big fella
There's a reason Dermott hasn't gotten a chance at a top pairing job. He's always had good players in front of him so management has been able to ease him in. Watch a few games, the guy is really good and better than his placement in the lineup.
I'd obviously pick Parayko too, have you forgotten that that's what this is about? Parayko is better but comparing a 26 year old and a 22 year old is a fools game. Nobody will know what Dermott is, as compared to Parayko, for another 4 years.
The better route would be to compare the two when they were 22. When Parayko was 22 he was a rookie, just breaking into the league, Dermott has a full year under his belt, another half year when he broke in and is working on another full one. He was better earlier and hasn't nearly topped out.
But you wouldn't know any of this because, again, you're clueless as to what you're talking about. You're just swept away with the idea that Leafs players are garbage because everybody on this site likes to trash the Leafs and their fans. At the end of the day you're unable to step back and look at things objectively because of it.


here is a simple fact. 1 Dermott doesn't show signs of being another Parayko. You want to over advertise his skill to get yourself a better player understandable from a Toronto aspect. When you look into what Parayko has done. Quality>Quantity is a great way to value this.
Nov. 26, 2019 at 1:29 p.m.
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here is a simple fact. 1 Dermott doesn't show signs of being another Parayko. You want to over advertise his skill to get yourself a better player understandable from a Toronto aspect. When you look into what Parayko has done. Quality>Quantity is a great way to value this.


He doesn't have to be another Parayko to be a really good player and to suggest he isn't quality is, frankly, stupid
Nov. 26, 2019 at 1:32 p.m.
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He doesn't have to be another Parayko to be a really good player and to suggest he isn't quality is, frankly, stupid


Quoting: I4evrblue
He doesn't have to be another Parayko to be a really good player and to suggest he isn't quality is, frankly, stupid


You want us to take players that none of will be even remotely close to Parayko that’s quantity.
Nov. 26, 2019 at 1:42 p.m.
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You want us to take players that none of will be even remotely close to Parayko that’s quantity.


Bull**** that he cna't be remotely close to Parayko. Para isn't THAT good. The only reason Leaf fans want him is because his size and skill combination is different than anything they have in the system
Nov. 26, 2019 at 1:46 p.m.
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Bull**** that he cna't be remotely close to Parayko. Para isn't THAT good. The only reason Leaf fans want him is because his size and skill combination is different than anything they have in the system


I can argue Parayko is one of the best two ways in the league and the best Defenseman in St.Louis I have seen his play he shuts down top lines more than Petro does.
Nov. 26, 2019 at 1:48 p.m.
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I can argue Parayko is one of the best two ways in the league and the best Defenseman in St.Louis I have seen his play he shuts down top lines more than Petro does.


Blindly biased
Nov. 26, 2019 at 1:59 p.m.
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Blindly biased


Call it what you want but Parayko has 1 goal total against him in playoffs when it came to top lines. And Bouwmeester gave that one up. Bouwmeester lowers his play so you can’t really say anything lol. Blindly biased is saying Marner is a Top 5 winger in the League like most. Pietrangelo is overrated with bad defense. Parayko is great. I don’t even overrate any of the Blues players such as Tarasenko.
 
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