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Created by: Capitalfail67
Initial Creation Date: Nov 24, 2019
Published: Nov 24, 2019 at 5:11 pm
Team: 2019-20 Washington Capitals
Team Explanation
Capitals replaced Connolly and Burakovsky with Hagelin and Panik

Burakovsky 21p In 23 games
Connolly 17p In 23 games

38 combined points

Hagelin 5 points 17 games
Panik 1p 15games

6 points

Capitals killed the 3rd line and made it so much worse. Panik and hags can’t score at all
Trades
WSH
  1. Burakovsky, André
COL
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (COL)
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (ARI)
WSH
    ANA
    1. Hathaway, Garnet
    2. Pánik, Richard
    3. Hagelin, Carl
    WSH
    1. Connolly, Brett
    FLA
      Buried
      • Pheonix Copley: $25,000 ($1,100,000)
      • Christian Djoos: $175,000 ($1,250,000)
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2020
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      2021
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      2022
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
      21$81,500,000$81,389,294$1,150,000$632,500$110,706
      Left WingCenterRight Wing
      WSH
      Ovechkin, Alex
      $9,538,462
      LW, RW
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      WSH
      Kuznetsov, Evgeny
      $7,800,000
      C
      NTC
      UFA - 6
      WSH
      Oshie, T.J.
      $5,750,000
      RW
      NTC
      UFA - 6
      WSH
      Vrána, Jakub
      $3,350,000
      LW
      RFA - 2
      WSH
      Bäckström, Nicklas
      $6,700,000
      C
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      WSH
      Wilson, Tom
      $5,166,666
      RW
      UFA - 5
      COL
      Burakovsky, André
      $3,250,000
      LW, RW
      RFA - 1
      WSH
      Eller, Lars
      $3,500,000
      C
      UFA - 4
      FLA
      Connolly, Brett
      $3,500,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 4
      WSH
      Stephenson, Chandler
      $1,050,000
      LW, C
      RFA - 1
      WSH
      Dowd, Nic
      $750,000
      C
      UFA - 3
      WSH
      Boyd, Travis
      $800,000
      C, RW
      RFA - 1
      WSH
      Leipsic, Brendan
      $700,000
      LW
      UFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      WSH
      Orlov, Dmitry
      $5,100,000
      LD
      NTC
      UFA - 4
      WSH
      Carlson, John
      $8,000,000
      RD
      NTC
      UFA - 7
      WSH
      Holtby, Braden
      $6,100,000
      G
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      WSH
      Kempný, Michal
      $2,500,000
      LD
      UFA - 3
      WSH
      Gudas, Radko
      $2,345,000
      RD
      UFA - 1
      WSH
      Samsonov, Ilya
      $925,000
      G
      RFA - 2
      WSH
      Siegenthaler, Jonas
      $714,166
      RD
      RFA - 1
      WSH
      Jensen, Nick
      $2,500,000
      RD
      UFA - 4

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      Nov 24, 2019 at 5:13
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      being unable to put the puck in the net is what chased him out of pittsburgh. Plenty of opportunity, no ability to finish. He's miss wide open nets. It was embarrassing.
      He's getting older to and that speed is starting to disappear. The only saving grace on that contract is it's under 3 million.
      Nov 24, 2019 at 5:17
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      Quoting: pharrow
      being unable to put the puck in the net is what chased him out of pittsburgh. Plenty of opportunity, no ability to finish. He's miss wide open nets. It was embarrassing.
      He's getting older to and that speed is starting to disappear. The only saving grace on that contract is it's under 3 million.


      He’s a solid defensive player. He’s great to pair with a defensively unreliable player but him and Panik on the same line is terrible. Doesn’t help Burakovsky is absolutely on fire. I called it before the season started that he was gojng to have a killer year. Can’t believe they let him go for Panik
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      Nov 24, 2019 at 5:25
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      Quoting: Capitalfail67
      He’s a solid defensive player. He’s great to pair with a defensively unreliable player but him and Panik on the same line is terrible. Doesn’t help Burakovsky is absolutely on fire. I called it before the season started that he was gojng to have a killer year. Can’t believe they let him go for Panik


      But hasn't Burakovsky been playing on the 1st line due to injury?
      Nov 24, 2019 at 5:26
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      Quoting: Capitalfail67
      He’s a solid defensive player. He’s great to pair with a defensively unreliable player but him and Panik on the same line is terrible. Doesn’t help Burakovsky is absolutely on fire. I called it before the season started that he was gojng to have a killer year. Can’t believe they let him go for Panik


      Yeah, I watched the "solid defensive player" thing with the penguins. And that's great and all, but he's of no help to put points on the board. And this is an offensive game. At the end of the day, if you can't do anything with the puck, you most likely aren't going to be put on lines with people who can. There is just too much pressure to score. Hags use to be a better player than he is now. I think it's a combination of several things. Injury and age being the top 2. It wouldn't matter who his line mates are. He couldn't net goals with Malkin as his center and you aren't going to get on a top line with 20 points a year. It simply doesn't work that way. More is expected.
      Nov 24, 2019 at 5:29
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      Quoting: aedoran
      But hasn't Burakovsky been playing on the 1st line due to injury?


      1st powerplay not 1st line but I’m not entirely sure. Either what he’s on pace for 75points. Panik is on pace for 7. Rumor was Burakovsky was promised a top 6 role when avs traded for him.
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      Nov 24, 2019 at 5:30
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      Quoting: pharrow
      Yeah, I watched the "solid defensive player" thing with the penguins. And that's great and all, but he's of no help to put points on the board. And this is an offensive game. At the end of the day, if you can't do anything with the puck, you most likely aren't going to be put on lines with people who can. There is just too much pressure to score. Hags use to be a better player than he is now. I think it's a combination of several things. Injury and age being the top 2. It wouldn't matter who his line mates are. He couldn't net goals with Malkin as his center and you aren't going to get on a top line with 20 points a year. It simply doesn't work that way. More is expected.


      I don’t mind him. We need guys to help make out pk better. That being said we used Connolly money to pay him and that’s just stupid considering how good Connolly is
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      Nov 24, 2019 at 5:37
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      Quoting: Capitalfail67
      I don’t mind him. We need guys to help make out pk better. That being said we used Connolly money to pay him and that’s just stupid considering how good Connolly is


      you can find solid PK guys at 1 mil and under 3rd and 4th liners who are younger, faster, and some frankly having more scoring touch.
      He's been hurt a lot, this is his 3rd in 4 years looks like he's going to miss a good chuck of time. All started with breaking his ankle and frankly the play has never been the same since that.
      He had issues with it healing. He never got surgery as far as I know. But I do know he never came back the same player of what he was.
      Nov 24, 2019 at 5:44
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      Quoting: pharrow
      you can find solid PK guys at 1 mil and under 3rd and 4th liners who are younger, faster, and some frankly having more scoring touch.
      He's been hurt a lot, this is his 3rd in 4 years looks like he's going to miss a good chuck of time. All started with breaking his ankle and frankly the play has never been the same since that.
      He had issues with it healing. He never got surgery as far as I know. But I do know he never came back the same player of what he was.


      Seattle player imo
      Nov 24, 2019 at 6:58
      #9
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      A big part of why Burakovsky is doing so well now is because of the opportunity he's getting. He's been playing with Mackinnon lately, and been getting a lot more minutes than he was with the Caps. It was clear that he wasn't going to work out here. If we held onto him, we'd have the same Burakovsky we've had the last two years. Moving on was the right decision.
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      Nov 24, 2019 at 8:20
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      Who adds what?
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      Quoting: krakowitz
      A big part of why Burakovsky is doing so well now is because of the opportunity he's getting. He's been playing with Mackinnon lately, and been getting a lot more minutes than he was with the Caps. It was clear that he wasn't going to work out here. If we held onto him, we'd have the same Burakovsky we've had the last two years. Moving on was the right decision.


      Remember that time I suggested the Caps give Burakovsky a change of scenes by trading him for a contract holdout that Leafs fans wanted to get rid of?

      He's outscoring Nylander again this year. smile

      Pretty funny that no team outbid Colorado's 2nd and a 3rd offer. Any team could have had Burakovsky for a 1st last summer.
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      Nov 25, 2019 at 1:14
      #11
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      Except the Caps are #1 in the NHL currently, and don't need Connolly or Bura. We got a fair return for Bura, he wasn't a fit here. Perhaps we could have kept Connolly and not signed Panik and Hagelin, but then our defense would suffer for it. Which was the problem the last 2+ seasons to begin with. Gigantic hot blobs in front of the net every game, our goalies having to stand on their heads and us having to score a lot of goals to win.

      Now we seem a more sound 5v5 team, controlling play better and having more solid defense.

      I think with the progression of Vrana and Wilson, along with Ovi maintaining Ovi and Oshie playing well, our offense hasn't really dropped off, despite missing some bottom 6 scoring. While our overall team defense has improved.
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      Nov 25, 2019 at 3:15
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      I don't think replacing Connolly and Bura with Panik and Hagelin wasn't predicated on replacing offense. The biggest weakness this team had last season was the penalty kill and overall defensive play. Let's look at this year and last year:

      2018 (full season):

      Goals per game: 3.34
      Goals Against per game: 3.02
      Penalty Kill %: 78.9%
      Team Save %: 90.41%

      2019:

      Goals per game: 3.52
      Goals Against per game: 2.92
      Penalty Kill %: 83.1%
      Team Save %: 90.71%

      IMO, I'd take 2019's stats over 2018's.
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      Nov 25, 2019 at 3:34
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      Quoting: staytru20
      I don't think replacing Connolly and Bura with Panik and Hagelin wasn't predicated on replacing offense. The biggest weakness this team had last season was the penalty kill and overall defensive play. Let's look at this year and last year:

      2018 (full season):

      Goals per game: 3.34
      Goals Against per game: 3.02
      Penalty Kill %: 78.9%
      Team Save %: 90.41%

      2019:

      Goals per game: 3.52
      Goals Against per game: 2.92
      Penalty Kill %: 83.1%
      Team Save %: 90.71%

      IMO, I'd take 2019's stats over 2018's.


      Both players have also been injuired and most of the offense has come from the top 6. With the development of Vrana mix with those two guys our goals per game would be much higher and the defensive numbers aren’t much better imo
      Nov 25, 2019 at 3:42
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      Quoting: Capitalfail67
      Both players have also been injuired and most of the offense has come from the top 6. With the development of Vrana mix with those two guys our goals per game would be much higher and the defensive numbers aren’t much better imo


      They aren't much better, but the trend so far is more sustainable than last season. The Caps were hemorrhaging high danger chances against last season, and that's what did the team in. There's still pieces to that are lingering, but the Caps are still the highest scoring team in the league, so I'm not too concerned there.
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      Nov 25, 2019 at 3:58
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      Also Bura was getting paid like a top 6 forward, not a bottom 6 forward. Yet he was producing like a bottom 6 here. I don't lament losing him, even if he's producing better elsewhere, because in all likelihood, he was never going to produce that here. Not while we have Ovi, Oshie, Vrana and Wilson taking the top 6 winger spots.

      Connolly would be nice to insert back into the third line without a doubt, but with the Cap situation as it is, we're already struggling. We'd have to give up Hagelin and Panik for Connolly, and again, he was never going to be in the top 6 if everyone is healthy and his production wouldn't change much. Except he would cost us more than double what he was costing us before. He was so valuable to us because he was getting paid like a 4th liner here. He's no longer getting paid like that.
      Nov 25, 2019 at 8:06
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      Quoting: staytru20
      I don't think replacing Connolly and Bura with Panik and Hagelin wasn't predicated on replacing offense. The biggest weakness this team had last season was the penalty kill and overall defensive play. Let's look at this year and last year:

      2018 (full season):

      Goals per game: 3.34
      Goals Against per game: 3.02
      Penalty Kill %: 78.9%
      Team Save %: 90.41%

      2019:

      Goals per game: 3.52
      Goals Against per game: 2.92
      Penalty Kill %: 83.1%
      Team Save %: 90.71%

      IMO, I'd take 2019's stats over 2018's.


      Wait. The team giving up one less goal per ten games, I get. The team scoring two more goals per ten games? That's pretty cool.

      Also, the PK is up from 24th last year to 11th, although before Pangelin got hurt, they were up as high as 6th.
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      Nov 29, 2019 at 11:25
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      Both Bura and Con have been playing top 6 time. And I'm sure Caps would have much much rather kept both of those guys but they priced themselves out WSH.
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