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maiking this trade because we will keep krug and grz

Created by: Bananahockey
Initial Creation Date: Nov 25, 2019
Published: Nov 25, 2019 at 2:07 pm
Team: 2019-20 Boston Bruins
Team Explanation
We can’t let krug walk, and we need to keep grz he’s really good on 5v5, next year you can call lauzon up or Moore to play on the third pair
Trades
BOS
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler
Additional Details:
Bertuzzi would be my go to guys but I know he have a lot of value to Detroit eyes, AA would be my other target but only for Vaak and senyshyn
DET
  1. Senyshyn, Zach
  2. Vaakanainen, Urho
  3. Forsbacka Karlsson, Jakob [Reserve List]
BOS
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Miller, Kevan
  2. 2020 6th round pick (BOS)
Buyouts
  • Dennis Seidenberg: $1,166,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Matt Beleskey: $1,900,000 (50%)
Buried
  • David Backes: $4,925,000 ($6,000,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
BOS
BOS
BOS
WPG
BOS
BOS
2021
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
2022
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$78,846,666$0$2,432,500$2,653,334
Left WingCenterRight Wing
BOS
Marchand, Brad
$6,125,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
BOS
Bergeron, Patrice
$6,875,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
BOS
Pastrnak, David
$6,666,666
RW
UFA - 4
BOS
DeBrusk, Jake
$863,333
LW
RFA - 1
BOS
Krejci, David
$7,250,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
DET
Bertuzzi, Tyler
$1,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
BOS
Heinen, Danton
$2,800,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 2
BOS
Coyle, Charlie
$3,200,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
BOS
Bjork, Anders
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
BOS
Wagner, Chris
$1,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
BOS
Kuraly, Sean
$1,275,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
BOS
Kuhlman, Karson
$750,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
BOS
Chara, Zdeno
$2,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
BOS
McAvoy, Charlie
$4,900,000
RD
RFA - 3
BOS
Rask, Tuukka
$7,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
BOS
Krug, Torey
$5,250,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
BOS
Carlo, Brandon
$2,850,000
RD
RFA - 2
BOS
Halák, Jaroslav
$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
BOS
Grzelcyk, Matt
$1,400,000
LD
RFA - 1
BOS
Clifton, Connor
$725,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
BOS
Nordström, Joakim
$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 1
BOS
Lindholm, Pär
$850,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
BOS
Moore, John
$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 4

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Nov 26, 2019 at 5:07
#26
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: aedoran
He would be 3rd in points on Boston and Detroit is really bad and has trouble scoring. So Bertuzzi having a ppg of .85 is rather impressive


4th in points, 6th in points per game.
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Nov 26, 2019 at 5:26
#27
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
4th in points, 6th in points per game.


You are correct I forgot Beregeon is on IR. I didn't even check Boston players ppg. I was just saying .85 on a really bad team was impressive. Now Pasta and Marchand are just about unstoppable right now.
Nov 27, 2019 at 9:04
#28
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Quoting: aedoran
He would be 3rd in points on Boston and Detroit is really bad and has trouble scoring. So Bertuzzi having a ppg of .85 is rather impressive


Not really. Teams that don't really have to play defense or have any real (successful) structure in place make it a little easier to score. Also makes it easier to get lit up. He most certainly would not be playing 1st line minutes.

An equivalent trade would be Heinen for Cholowski or Hronek - Although Vaakanaian has a much higher ceiling than both. I am in the Heinen is better than he appears camp, and I still wouldn't do that deal if I am Detroit. It's really hard to trade 21 year old dmen playing 20m a night.

A couple other things. There is a zero percent chance Bertuzzi ends the season with a 20% shooting percentage. Bertuzzi is playing 19:33 per game. Pastrnak is averaging 19:02. There is a zero percent chance he plays 19m a night if on the Bruins.

This deal will also never happen because of the expansion draft. The Bruins will already lose someone, Vaak is not eligible. They will not trade him for a player they need to protect.

(Bergeron, Marchand, Pastrnak, Coyle, Heinen, Debrusk & Bjork @F -- Krug, McAVoy, Carlo @ D)

That means Grz, Kuraly, Frederic, Senyshyn, Moore + others will all be exposed.

*I think they chose Bjork over Kuraly because of Control. Kuraly's pay day is coming.
Nov 27, 2019 at 9:28
#29
Thread Starter
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,173
Likes: 76
Quoting: Propeller09
Not really. Teams that don't really have to play defense or have any real (successful) structure in place make it a little easier to score. Also makes it easier to get lit up. He most certainly would not be playing 1st line minutes.

An equivalent trade would be Heinen for Cholowski or Hronek - Although Vaakanaian has a much higher ceiling than both. I am in the Heinen is better than he appears camp, and I still wouldn't do that deal if I am Detroit. It's really hard to trade 21 year old dmen playing 20m a night.

A couple other things. There is a zero percent chance Bertuzzi ends the season with a 20% shooting percentage. Bertuzzi is playing 19:33 per game. Pastrnak is averaging 19:02. There is a zero percent chance he plays 19m a night if on the Bruins.

This deal will also never happen because of the expansion draft. The Bruins will already lose someone, Vaak is not eligible. They will not trade him for a player they need to protect.

(Bergeron, Marchand, Pastrnak, Coyle, Heinen, Debrusk & Bjork @F -- Krug, McAVoy, Carlo @ D)

That means Grz, Kuraly, Frederic, Senyshyn, Moore + others will all be exposed.

*I think they chose Bjork over Kuraly because of Control. Kuraly's pay day is coming.


No matter who they protect grezlyck will go out
Nov 27, 2019 at 10:03
#30
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Quoting: Bananahockey
No matter who they protect grezlyck will go out


Obviously contingent on the Bruins re-signing Krug. Otherwise they protect Grz.

Frederic or Senyshyn could also be viewed as a Karlsson type and get some interest.
Nov 27, 2019 at 12:44
#31
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Quoting: Propeller09
Not really. Teams that don't really have to play defense or have any real (successful) structure in place make it a little easier to score. Also makes it easier to get lit up. He most certainly would not be playing 1st line minutes.

An equivalent trade would be Heinen for Cholowski or Hronek - Although Vaakanaian has a much higher ceiling than both. I am in the Heinen is better than he appears camp, and I still wouldn't do that deal if I am Detroit. It's really hard to trade 21 year old dmen playing 20m a night.

A couple other things. There is a zero percent chance Bertuzzi ends the season with a 20% shooting percentage. Bertuzzi is playing 19:33 per game. Pastrnak is averaging 19:02. There is a zero percent chance he plays 19m a night if on the Bruins.

This deal will also never happen because of the expansion draft. The Bruins will already lose someone, Vaak is not eligible. They will not trade him for a player they need to protect.

(Bergeron, Marchand, Pastrnak, Coyle, Heinen, Debrusk & Bjork @F -- Krug, McAVoy, Carlo @ D)

That means Grz, Kuraly, Frederic, Senyshyn, Moore + others will all be exposed.

*I think they chose Bjork over Kuraly because of Control. Kuraly's pay day is coming.


Still Bertuzzi isn't getting traded for Vaak and 2 AHL players it juust won't happen.
Nov 27, 2019 at 2:52
#32
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Quoting: aedoran
Still Bertuzzi isn't getting traded for Vaak and 2 AHL players it juust won't happen.


You are right, The Bruins won't do it. Vaakanainan's value is WAY HIGHER.

Senyshyn and JFK are or will be NHL'ers
6GP - 3pts // 9pts in 29games.
Nov 27, 2019 at 5:06
#33
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Quoting: Propeller09
You are right, The Bruins won't do it. Vaakanainan's value is WAY HIGHER.

Senyshyn and JFK are or will be NHL'ers
6GP - 3pts // 9pts in 29games.


With Detroit having one line that can score that means Bertuzzi's line is going against their opponents best defensive unit every game. So yeah that does make it impressive. Since Bertuzzi is on the Wings it really doesn't matter how many minutes he would get in Boston. Yes I get it Boston is better, that was never in question and If you read all the comments here you would know that as of now I think Boston will win the cup this year.

Senyshyn does have 3points in 6 games but thats over 2 seasons and in that same time period he has played 78 games in the AHL. Senyshynin is a good skater with average puck skills, very little hockey sense and he's a turnover machine.

Even if JFK comes back he's a bottom 6 forward at best. He is an average skater with average puck skills, but he does have above average hockey IQ. He did play 28 games for Boston last season and you have to assume if he was going to start the season with Boston he doesn't go to Sweden to play. At 23 the odds are against him having a successful NHL career.

Vaak is the only part of that trade that has any value at all.
 
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