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Nov. 26, 2019 at 9:05 a.m.
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Jeff Carter will make it before Tavares.
Also Jonathan Quick will make it as well. Most likely Marian Gaborik too
Nov. 26, 2019 at 9:07 a.m.
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definite NO:
Kovalchuk (lol, ditched the nhl)
Tavares (Tavares is nothing special, ditched his team and they are better without him)
Matthews / Eichel (Both could get there eventually, but not yet)
Kucherov (He has had two great seasons and is already not playing well again, like ^ he could get there, but not yet)
Kopitar (Nothing Special)

Definite Yes:
OVI, Marleau, Bergy, Jumbo, Doughty, Chara, Keith, Crosby, McDavid, Kane, Flower, Hank, Price, Malkin, and eventually MacKinnon

The rest are on the edge (These guys have definitely shown they can do well and will likely make it, but I wouldnt count on it because they dont just take everyone thats amazing).
Nov. 26, 2019 at 9:23 a.m.
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Quoting: Hockeyguy77
Jeff Carter will make it before Tavares.
Also Jonathan Quick will make it as well. Most likely Marian Gaborik too


I don't think Carter is HOF worthy.
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Nov. 26, 2019 at 9:25 a.m.
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Quoting: bsilk18
definite NO:
Kovalchuk (lol, ditched the nhl)
Tavares (Tavares is nothing special, ditched his team and they are better without him)
Matthews / Eichel (Both could get there eventually, but not yet)
Kucherov (He has had two great seasons and is already not playing well again, like ^ he could get there, but not yet)
Kopitar (Nothing Special)

Definite Yes:
OVI, Marleau, Bergy, Jumbo, Doughty, Chara, Keith, Crosby, McDavid, Kane, Flower, Hank, Price, Malkin, and eventually MacKinnon

The rest are on the edge (These guys have definitely shown they can do well and will likely make it, but I wouldnt count on it because they dont just take everyone thats amazing).


Do you think Jeremy Roenick is HOF worthy?
Nov. 26, 2019 at 9:42 a.m.
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Quoting: MikeyThePensFan
I don't think Carter is HOF worthy.


He has 2 Stanley cups I believe 2 gold metals as well as other national championships. By the time he retires he'll be in the 700+ point range.
All of those things meet what the HHOF likes. He'll be a hall of famer.
Nov. 26, 2019 at 9:49 a.m.
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Quoting: bsilk18
definite NO:
Kovalchuk (lol, ditched the nhl)
Tavares (Tavares is nothing special, ditched his team and they are better without him)
Matthews / Eichel (Both could get there eventually, but not yet)
Kucherov (He has had two great seasons and is already not playing well again, like ^ he could get there, but not yet)
Kopitar (Nothing Special)

Definite Yes:
OVI, Marleau, Bergy, Jumbo, Doughty, Chara, Keith, Crosby, McDavid, Kane, Flower, Hank, Price, Malkin, and eventually MacKinnon

The rest are on the edge (These guys have definitely shown they can do well and will likely make it, but I wouldnt count on it because they dont just take everyone thats amazing).


how is Kopitar nothing special
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Nov. 26, 2019 at 9:49 a.m.
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Quoting: BigOaf69
how is Kopitar nothing special


Exactly lol, Kopitar is an HOF lock
Nov. 26, 2019 at 10:32 a.m.
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Quoting: BigOaf69
how is Kopitar nothing special


Guy Carbonneau has 3 Cups and 3 Selke.
Kopitar has 2 Cups, 2 Selke and 1 Byng.
There's a chance Kopitar gets the HHOF call.

Kopitar might not be as good as Carbonneau in his defensive play but he has better stats than Guy. So this makes it pretty even.
Nov. 26, 2019 at 10:37 a.m.
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Jeff Carter is not a HHOFer. His .71PPG would be one of the lowest for an F in the HHOF in the modern era. He has never won any major individual awards (Rocket, Ross, etc). He's got 2 cups, but outside of that, his comparables are Thomas Vanek (not a HHOF), Michel Goulet (not a HHOF), and Zach Parise (probably not a HHOF either). If winning cups got you into the HHOF, Esa Tikkanen has a higher PPG, and has 5 cups, and he's not a HHOF either. Eddie Olczyk has a higher PPG, and a cup, and isn't a HHOF either. David Krejci has a higher PPG, is younger, is on pace to play way more than 1000 games, multiple cups, is he a HHOF?
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Nov. 26, 2019 at 10:38 a.m.
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People that won’t get in (at least for a while):
Fleury
Staal
Kovalchuk
Marleau

Haven’t proved it yet:
Matthews
Tavares
Eichel
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Nov. 26, 2019 at 10:48 a.m.
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Guys I'd consider for this list:

Nicklas Backstrom (.97 PPG, on pace for a 1000 games, cup winner)
Ryan Getzlaf (.93 PPG, over a 1000 games, cup winner)
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Nov. 26, 2019 at 10:56 a.m.
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Quoting: TMarch
Guys I'd consider for this list:

Nicklas Backstrom (.97 PPG, on pace for a 1000 games, cup winner)
Ryan Getzlaf (.93 PPG, over a 1000 games, cup winner)


yeah wtf how is backstrom not on the list but Mathews is lol. Backstrom is a lock
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Nov. 26, 2019 at 11:00 a.m.
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yeah wtf how is backstrom not on the list but Mathews is lol. Backstrom is a lock


forgot about him
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Nov. 26, 2019 at 1:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockeyguy77
He has 2 Stanley cups I believe 2 gold metals as well as other national championships. By the time he retires he'll be in the 700+ point range.
All of those things meet what the HHOF likes. He'll be a hall of famer.


700 points in 1000 games should not get you into the HOF. Just because he's won a lot doesn't make him an automatic selection. He has only one season where he was a point per game, one 40 goal season, two 30 goal seasons and no individual awards. I'm sorry but if I had to choose between him and John Tavares, I'd choose JT anyday.
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Nov. 26, 2019 at 1:27 p.m.
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Exactly lol, Kopitar is an HOF lock


Kopitar is better than Toews?
Nov. 26, 2019 at 1:30 p.m.
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yeah wtf how is backstrom not on the list but Mathews is lol. Backstrom is a lock


Malkin is far better than Backstrom.
Nov. 26, 2019 at 2:08 p.m.
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Quoting: MikeyThePensFan
Malkin is far better than Backstrom.


Yes, but i didnt say anything about malkin lol. Malkin being better doesnt take away from the fact backstrom is still a HOF player
Nov. 26, 2019 at 3:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Templar87
Guy Carbonneau has 3 Cups and 3 Selke.
Kopitar has 2 Cups, 2 Selke and 1 Byng.
There's a chance Kopitar gets the HHOF call.

Kopitar might not be as good as Carbonneau in his defensive play but he has better stats than Guy. So this makes it pretty even.


Kopitar has 251 more points in 291 less games

3 selkes vs 2 selkes does not make this "pretty even"

and it's not a chance he gets in. he gets in
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Nov. 26, 2019 at 6:58 p.m.
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Quoting: MikeyThePensFan
Kopitar is better than Toews?


Yes. Always has been.
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Nov. 26, 2019 at 7:01 p.m.
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Quoting: MikeyThePensFan
700 points in 1000 games should not get you into the HOF. Just because he's won a lot doesn't make him an automatic selection. He has only one season where he was a point per game, one 40 goal season, two 30 goal seasons and no individual awards. I'm sorry but if I had to choose between him and John Tavares, I'd choose JT anyday.


JT hasn't won anything! That's your opinion. I am just saying that based on what Carter has accomplished in his career he has an 85% chance of some day getting in the HHOF. 100% Kopitar, Dustin Brown, Drew Doughty, and Quick.
Nov. 26, 2019 at 7:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
People that won’t get in (at least for a while):
Fleury
Staal
Kovalchuk
Marleau

Haven’t proved it yet:
Matthews
Tavares
Eichel


I agree with you except i think Fleury gets in pretty quick. Him and Quick are the best playoff goalies within the last 15 years imo.
Nov. 26, 2019 at 8:56 p.m.
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I agree with you except i think Fleury gets in pretty quick. Him and Quick are the best playoff goalies within the last 15 years imo.


The problem is that Fleury hasn’t really had too many good regular seasons, really his best ones coming since playing in Vegas. Before getting to Vegas he had a total of 2 Vezina finalist votes in his 13 seasons in Pittsburgh. And while he is playing really well right now, I don’t think a few good years in his thirties is enough to get him into the HHoF.
Nov. 27, 2019 at 9:21 a.m.
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JT hasn't won anything! That's your opinion. I am just saying that based on what Carter has accomplished in his career he has an 85% chance of some day getting in the HHOF. 100% Kopitar, Dustin Brown, Drew Doughty, and Quick.


In terms of skill, JT has a greater overall influence than Carter. Put them on opposite teams and your opinion would be different.

Honestly, I think Brown is a really good player at what he does, he's a tough, physical power-forward who can grind in the dirty areas and generate puck possession. He can score goals and is effective in all situations. Has 2 cups, 1 silver medal and a Messier award for his leadership. However, I really don't think he's HOF worthy. This is a guy who's hit 30 goals and 60 points just once. He scores 0.55 points per game. To me, only the most exceptional players should get in, and his skill level and production just isn't enough.

If guys like Keith Tkachuk and Jeremy Roenick are not in, why should he?

I'm starting to sense that you're just a blind-biased Kings fan. Who's better, Malkin or Kopitar?
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Nov. 27, 2019 at 10:59 a.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
The problem is that Fleury hasn’t really had too many good regular seasons, really his best ones coming since playing in Vegas. Before getting to Vegas he had a total of 2 Vezina finalist votes in his 13 seasons in Pittsburgh. And while he is playing really well right now, I don’t think a few good years in his thirties is enough to get him into the HHoF.


I get what you are saying and maybe that’ll be a factor, but his playoff success out weighs his regular season success. Regardless of his regular season stats he and his teams still made the playoffs many times. Any goalie with 3 Stanley Cup has an easy shot at the hall of fame.
Nov. 27, 2019 at 4:51 p.m.
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I get what you are saying and maybe that’ll be a factor, but his playoff success out weighs his regular season success. Regardless of his regular season stats he and his teams still made the playoffs many times. Any goalie with 3 Stanley Cup has an easy shot at the hall of fame.


There have been many players with 3+ Stanley Cups who aren’t in the HHoF. And Fleury was only the starter for 1 of those cups. In terms of winning Stanley Cups as a starter, that puts him in the same class as Antti Niemi. If Fleury had won or been close to winning multiple Conn Smythes then you could maybe make an argument. Players in the HHoF are elite players that have distinguished themselves to be among the best in the world for a long period of time. You could say that Fleury has been a top-5 goalie in the last 2 years, but a few years of being really good won’t get you into the Hall of Fame.
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