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Kreider Strome and Zucker

Created by: BeterChiarelli
Team: 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 27, 2019
Published: Nov. 27, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
EDM
CGY
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Kreider, Chris ($2,312,500 retained)
  2. Strome, Ryan
NYR
  1. Marody, Cooper
  2. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Reserve List]
  3. Russell, Kris
  4. 2020 1st round pick (EDM)
3.
MIN
  1. Gagner, Sam
  2. Manning, Brandon
  3. Yamamoto, Kailer
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (EDM)
  5. 2021 5th round pick (EDM)
4.
EDM
  1. 2020 4th round pick (PHI)
5.
EDM
  1. 2020 6th round pick (NSH)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$78,244,499$0$1,840,000$3,255,501

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 6
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 7
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$1,950,000$1,950,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$2,312,500$2,312,500
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,150,000$2,150,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$925,000$925,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$3,200,000$3,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$720,000$720,000 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,000,000$2,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,750,000$2M)
G
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$720,000$720,000 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$1,900,000$1,900,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$1,150,000$1,150,000
C
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$870,000$870,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Nov. 27, 2019 at 4:57 p.m.
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There's speculation that Edmonton (and all Canadiens teams for that matter) is on Zucker's 10 team no trade list. If he's traded his family can't move with him since his wife has a child from a previous relationship. If that isn't the case, this isn't a terrible return but I'd like to see more quality if we move on from Zucker (like a 2020 1st)
Nov. 27, 2019 at 5:01 p.m.
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Switch Broberg for Marody, Puljujarvi, and Russell and Gorton might consider it. Broberg plus a 2020 1st round pick for Strome and Kreder and half their salary retained.
Nov. 27, 2019 at 5:19 p.m.
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Quoting: AJC13
Switch Broberg for Marody, Puljujarvi, and Russell and Gorton might consider it. Broberg plus a 2020 1st round pick for Strome and Kreder and half their salary retained.


tears of joy tears of joy Oh man this is funny!
Nov. 27, 2019 at 5:20 p.m.
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Quoting: AJC13
Switch Broberg for Marody, Puljujarvi, and Russell and Gorton might consider it. Broberg plus a 2020 1st round pick for Strome and Kreder and half their salary retained.


Strome's worth a 2nd Round Pick and Kreider's worth like a pair of 2nd Round Picks. How the hell do you equate that to Broberg? Or is this another case of looking at Strome's production bender and continuing to overrate Kreider? The Rangers essentially net two 1st Round Picks, a B-prospect, and eat some salary going back for an extra season. I don't understand your justification for why Strome and Kreider should fetch Mark Stone levels of a return. Stop being silly and try again.

Quoting: TanSor
There's speculation that Edmonton (and all Canadiens teams for that matter) is on Zucker's 10 team no trade list. If he's traded his family can't move with him since his wife has a child from a previous relationship. If that isn't the case, this isn't a terrible return but I'd like to see more quality if we move on from Zucker (like a 2020 1st)


Jesus that'll for sure throw a wrench in that plan. Thanks for the heads up.

I can't see any team realistically parting with a 1st Round Pick this year for Zucker. Any real justification for that kind of return is an argument that starts with his term and the chance he produces better outside of Minnesota. I'm fine with moving Yamamoto, a 2nd Round Pick, and up to a 3rd Round Pick, but Edmonton doesn't have the assets to make the NYR trade AND give Minnesota picks for this season.

Given that Zucker can't come to Canada for familial reasons, can you think of another winger (in terms of production and term) that Edmonton could target instead?
Nov. 27, 2019 at 5:47 p.m.
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Strome's worth a 2nd Round Pick and Kreider's worth like a pair of 2nd Round Picks. How the hell do you equate that to Broberg? Or is this another case of looking at Strome's production bender and continuing to overrate Kreider? The Rangers essentially net two 1st Round Picks, a B-prospect, and eat some salary going back for an extra season. I don't understand your justification for why Strome and Kreider should fetch Mark Stone levels of a return. Stop being silly and try again.







If NYR doesn't get a 1st for Strome then they won't trade him, he's a RFA next season and Gorton can fit him in under the cap. NYR might get much more than two 2nd round picks for Kreider - we shall see...

As for overrating... Your seriously overrating Marody, Puljujarvi, and Russell - Rangers have no interest in Russell and would certainly retain salary in lieu of counting Russell as any sort of trade value added to the deal.

As for being silly... Your being silly, lighting your a$s up on fire, you giggly bit!
Nov. 27, 2019 at 5:52 p.m.
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Quoting: AJC13
If NYR doesn't get a 1st for Strome then they won't trade him, he's a RFA next season and Gorton can fit him in under the cap. NYR might get much more than two 2nd round picks for Kreider - we shall see...

As for overrating... Your seriously overrating Marody, Puljujarvi, and Russell - Rangers have no interest in Russell and would certainly retain salary in lieu of counting Russell as any sort of trade value added to the deal.

As for being silly... Your being silly, lighting your a$s up on fire, you giggly bit!


Give me a reason for why Strome is worth a First Round Pick though. He's having ONE good year of production. Otherwise, his whole career he's been a decent #3C. The market value for third line centers is a second round pick.

Again, the Rangers are trading a second line winger and third line center for a 1st Round Pick, a former 1st Round Pick essentially guaranteed to bounce back anywhere not named Edmonton, a B-prospect, and are taking back salary to make the deal work. Russell only costs $2M in actual dollars next season, the Rangers won't struggle to flip him. Why are you asking for such a steep price?
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Nov. 27, 2019 at 5:55 p.m.
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tears of joy tears of joy Oh man this is funny!


Not nearly as funny and one sided as the deal being proposed.
Nov. 27, 2019 at 6:04 p.m.
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Give me a reason for why Strome is worth a First Round Pick though. He's having ONE good year of production. Otherwise, his whole career he's been a decent #3C. The market value for third line centers is a second round pick.

Again, the Rangers are trading a second line winger and third line center for a 1st Round Pick, a former 1st Round Pick essentially guaranteed to bounce back anywhere not named Edmonton, a B-prospect, and are taking back salary to make the deal work. Russell only costs $2M in actual dollars next season, the Rangers won't struggle to flip him. Why are you asking for such a steep price?


Listen carefully... If Gorton does not get a 1st round pick for Strome, he not trading him. Strome like Hall and many other players did not produce in Edmonton, but became the talented players they were supposed to be as soon as they left. Why would you want to trade for Strome when he's already proven he's a great player... Just not when forced to play in Edmonton.

Kreider is worth at least two 2nd round picks - probably more. Arguably a 1st round pick and a prospect, an opinion shared by many experts.

As for flipping Russell... Why don't you flip him punk, NYR would rather retain salary and have the trade value increase with the retained salary.
 
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