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Just gauging values

Created by: claysbar
Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 29, 2019
Published: Nov. 29, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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On the NYR trade, just seeing lots of people trading Strome and Deangelo, so just throwing in a scenario. Do the NYR think they are ready to start making a run or still need a year or so to re-tool/build?
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. 2020 1st round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Schultz, Justin ($2,750,000 retained)
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (PIT)
2.
NYR
  1. Björkqvist, Kasper
  2. Malkin, Evgeni ($1,125,000 retained)
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (PIT)
  4. 2022 3rd round pick (PIT)
3.
PIT
  1. Gagner, Sam
  2. Skinner, Stuart
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Bellerive, Jordy
  2. Bjugstad, Nick ($2,050,000 retained)
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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Logo of the EDM
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2021
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the ANA
2022
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$73,509,125$132,500$3,832,500$7,990,875
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,900,000$4,900,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Rangers
$3,100,000$3,100,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$767,500$767,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,750,000$3,750,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$874,125$874,125
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Rangers
$925,000$925,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$675,000$675,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$850,000$850,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 2

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Nov. 29, 2019 at 3:58 p.m.
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Tspky
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the rangers say no take backs
Nov. 29, 2019 at 4:02 p.m.
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claysbar
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Quoting: Spanky227
the rangers say no take backs


Are Strome and Deangelo that bad?
Nov. 29, 2019 at 5:12 p.m.
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WPG says no. NYR says hell yes. EDM probably.
Nov. 29, 2019 at 5:15 p.m.
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Analytics are good
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How about just not trading Malkin at all?
Nov. 29, 2019 at 7:47 p.m.
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claysbar
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Quoting: PenGoater99
How about just not trading Malkin at all?


I agree on that to a point but at the same time you have ask yourself, do you save a stock that is dwindling just because it has done you well in the past? Yes, to a point, but you have to see that if Bell Telephone is going the way of the dodo and if someone is gonna buy it, SELL while it has value. Once Sid is done/overly diminished, they need to have someone to take the mantle so looking at selling assets (that's what these guys are in the long run) you need to make moves to increase your odds of attaining those future assets. On the other hand, you hold on while you know it's doing good right now but KNOW it's gonna drop, sooner than later.
 
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