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Eichel is better then Matthews Fact

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He puts up more points on a worse team. He plays in all positions and plays against top lines every night without having a second line to bail him out. Also, most important he is not cancer in locker room and coach killer like Matthews.

Last one was just a joke. But he does not get elite status like Matthews, marner, draistl , petterson or pastrnak get even though he is on par or better then them all.
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Nov. 29, 2019 at 6:02 p.m.
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There's no need for this
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Nov. 29, 2019 at 6:04 p.m.
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Eichel is an elite player, no doubt. Better than Marner for sure and on par with Matthews.
Nov. 29, 2019 at 6:08 p.m.
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If the Sabres lose rn, its your fault
Nov. 29, 2019 at 6:16 p.m.
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Quoting: MikeyThePensFan
Eichel is an elite player, no doubt. Better than Marner for sure and on par with Matthews.


The question is if you switched Mathews and eichel who point totals goes and up and down. You have to think on better team eichel point total goes up.

Also, eichel makes his linemates a lot better. Meanwhile Mathews linemates point totals stay about the same. Not sure if that means more goals or not.
Nov. 29, 2019 at 6:31 p.m.
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If the Sabres lose rn, its your fault


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There's no need for this


When u have the better player and your team beats the leafs. You can rub it in.
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Nov. 29, 2019 at 6:34 p.m.
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The question is if you switched Mathews and eichel who point totals goes and up and down. You have to think on better team eichel point total goes up.

Also, eichel makes his linemates a lot better. Meanwhile Mathews linemates point totals stay about the same. Not sure if that means more goals or not.


I don't know man. Matthews helped Kapanen and Johnsson each score 20 goals last season on his wing. Eichel gets to play with Reinhart, who is more talented than both of them and arguably just as good as Nylander.

Who's better, Evgeni Malkin (prime) or Jack Eichel?
Nov. 29, 2019 at 6:43 p.m.
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"bigdog91" lmao
Nov. 29, 2019 at 6:44 p.m.
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When u have the better player and your team beats the leafs. You can rub it in.


Just not during the game
Nov. 29, 2019 at 6:57 p.m.
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Eichel is amazing but so is Matthews, Matthews had a bad game is all nobody’s worried about him, it’s the backup situation that is a huge problem
Nov. 29, 2019 at 7:44 p.m.
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Eichel is amazing but so is Matthews, Matthews had a bad game is all nobody’s worried about him, it’s the backup situation that is a huge problem


Never sad he wasn’t good or even elite. I think he will go down as one the best American players ever. And if he stays healthy which is big if can produce one of the most points for a american.

All I said was I truly believe eichel is a superior player to Matthews. If he switched spots with Matthews he would be top 5 in points and be talked about as one of the best in the game. And Matthews would be getting no love.
Nov. 29, 2019 at 7:45 p.m.
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Just not during the game


I just had a gut feeling
Nov. 29, 2019 at 7:45 p.m.
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Eichel is great, better than Matthews I'm not sure i agree. Eichel plays a more complete game and doesn't have the same talent around him. However Matthews is a year younger and a better goal scorer. Eichel is who he is going to be imo. Matthews can still get better as he matures as a person.
Nov. 29, 2019 at 7:54 p.m.
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Eichel is amazing but so is Matthews, Matthews had a bad game is all nobody’s worried about him, it’s the backup situation that is a huge problem


The point I was trying to make is Matthews game is mostly scoring on transition and he is really not a playmaker. Eichel always has been a pass first guy and players always have career year with him, skinner, Kane olffsson and pominville.

Marner has a career year with Tavares, you can look at players Crosby played with. Matthews teammates are all on same pace as last year
Nov. 29, 2019 at 8:04 p.m.
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Yay, another buffalo sports fan with an inferiority complex.

Stop making us look bad
Nov. 29, 2019 at 8:31 p.m.
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Eichel is great, better than Matthews I'm not sure i agree. Eichel plays a more complete game and doesn't have the same talent around him. However Matthews is a year younger and a better goal scorer. Eichel is who he is going to be imo. Matthews can still get better as he matures as a person.


Wow you are dumb. So we agree eichel is more of a complete player and produces more points with worse talents. But eichel has the same amount of goals and more points in one less game.

As for the last point. That is just crazy. Eichel will not get better but Mathews will because he is year younger? That is just dumb. They both will get better but eichel will be the better player.
Nov. 29, 2019 at 8:47 p.m.
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How exactly is Matthews a "coach killer" or "locker room cancer" when Eichel is on his 3rd coach and has whined about his teammates 3 straight years?
Nov. 29, 2019 at 9:29 p.m.
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Wow you are dumb. So we agree eichel is more of a complete player and produces more points with worse talents. But eichel has the same amount of goals and more points in one less game.

As for the last point. That is just crazy. Eichel will not get better but Mathews will because he is year younger? That is just dumb. They both will get better but eichel will be the better player.


I'm sorry my IQ isn't up to your standards, however if you had better spelling skills you would realize Matthews spells his name with 2 t's, but let's not get caught up in spelling.
It would be real dumb to base who is better off of roughly 25 games so let's go off their careers so far which is what I did.
Eichel will likely never score 40 goals he isn't as greedy about taking shots. Eichel is 1 year older and plays a more mature game as he doesn't try to score by himself all the time. Matthews is younger and does try to do to much by himself, he will mature and round out his game a bit more. Maybe that happens over the summer but I doubt it.
I suspect you insult people from behind your keyboard because people pick on you when you are out in public, you think its because you are small and weak but its because you are insecure. Either way have a good night and don't go taking your frustration out on your dog.
Nov. 29, 2019 at 11:13 p.m.
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How exactly is Matthews a "coach killer" or "locker room cancer" when Eichel is on his 3rd coach and has whined about his teammates 3 straight years?


That was a joke, he said that
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Nov. 30, 2019 at 12:07 a.m.
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I'm sorry my IQ isn't up to your standards, however if you had better spelling skills you would realize Matthews spells his name with 2 t's, but let's not get caught up in spelling.
It would be real dumb to base who is better off of roughly 25 games so let's go off their careers so far which is what I did.
Eichel will likely never score 40 goals he isn't as greedy about taking shots. Eichel is 1 year older and plays a more mature game as he doesn't try to score by himself all the time. Matthews is younger and does try to do to much by himself, he will mature and round out his game a bit more. Maybe that happens over the summer but I doubt it.
I suspect you insult people from behind your keyboard because people pick on you when you are out in public, you think its because you are small and weak but its because you are insecure. Either way have a good night and don't go taking your frustration out on your dog.


For some reason my phone auto corrects Matthews to one 1 t. Sorry that bothers you.

Considering eichel is on pace for 50 this year I think u can easily say he will break 40 goals at some point in career prolly this year.Matthews is a better pure goal scorer but has a lot of holes in his game. Like you said. But I don’t understand how he is going magically figure it all out and get better and eichel isn’t going to improve his flaws and get better. All because he is a year younger?

My point was that eichel is a complete player, plays in all situations for sabres. Is caring the team which Matthews never has to do ( not his fault), and is better passer. While everyone is so high on goals they worth the same amount as an assist. I do believe is looking to shoot more this year which is why his goal total is going up. At the end of the year I think we will see eichel with 40g and 60+a and be between 4-8 in scoring. I do not think Matthews would putting up those numbers if u took away leafs second line and teams knew if they **** down top line they win.

As for last part you want to come to buffalo. I would be happy to talk in person. But leaf fans are always little cry baby’s. And u will run and hide.
Nov. 30, 2019 at 12:51 a.m.
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For some reason my phone auto corrects Matthews to one 1 t. Sorry that bothers you.

Considering eichel is on pace for 50 this year I think u can easily say he will break 40 goals at some point in career prolly this year.Matthews is a better pure goal scorer but has a lot of holes in his game. Like you said. But I don’t understand how he is going magically figure it all out and get better and eichel isn’t going to improve his flaws and get better. All because he is a year younger?

My point was that eichel is a complete player, plays in all situations for sabres. Is caring the team which Matthews never has to do ( not his fault), and is better passer. While everyone is so high on goals they worth the same amount as an assist. I do believe is looking to shoot more this year which is why his goal total is going up. At the end of the year I think we will see eichel with 40g and 60+a and be between 4-8 in scoring. I do not think Matthews would putting up those numbers if u took away leafs second line and teams knew if they **** down top line they win.

As for last part you want to come to buffalo. I would be happy to talk in person. But leaf fans are always little cry baby’s. And u will run and hide.


Let me direct you to paragraph 2 of your most recent post where you point out Eichel plays a complete game. My point, so how does he fix what's not broken. Matthews has holes in his game so if he matures to understand the game as well as Eichel he should then become a improved player, thus fixing what is broken.
Matthews ultimately has more room for growth.
The one year thing you are hung up on, I'm sorry I sometimes (most times) ramble and don't make clear what I'm getting at. When a guy is in his early 20s we are immature and around 23 for most guys we get a little less cocky and more willing to listen and learn, which when this happens for Matthews it will make him a more complete hockey player. I think this has already happened for Eichel.
I don't expect Eichel to make 40 goals but good luck on that ( I mean that I like Eichel I do want him to do well).
Finally thanks for the invite to Buffalo, Billsmafia guys entertain me quite a bit. If you want to talk to prove you are not small, weak, and insecure that's great shows growth. Not sure why you felt the need to call Leaf fans crybabies." And u will run and hide" this line confuses me I thought we were talking so that suggests you may have poor hygiene habits. I like the Crest spinbrushes teeth never felt cleaner.
Once again have a good night and don't take your frustration out on your dog.
Nov. 30, 2019 at 4:20 p.m.
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Let me direct you to paragraph 2 of your most recent post where you point out Eichel plays a complete game. My point, so how does he fix what's not broken. Matthews has holes in his game so if he matures to understand the game as well as Eichel he should then become a improved player, thus fixing what is broken.
Matthews ultimately has more room for growth.
The one year thing you are hung up on, I'm sorry I sometimes (most times) ramble and don't make clear what I'm getting at. When a guy is in his early 20s we are immature and around 23 for most guys we get a little less cocky and more willing to listen and learn, which when this happens for Matthews it will make him a more complete hockey player. I think this has already happened for Eichel.
I don't expect Eichel to make 40 goals but good luck on that ( I mean that I like Eichel I do want him to do well).
Finally thanks for the invite to Buffalo, Billsmafia guys entertain me quite a bit. If you want to talk to prove you are not small, weak, and insecure that's great shows growth. Not sure why you felt the need to call Leaf fans crybabies." And u will run and hide" this line confuses me I thought we were talking so that suggests you may have poor hygiene habits. I like the Crest spinbrushes teeth never felt cleaner.
Once again have a good night and don't take your frustration out on your dog.


So, Matthews needs to improve in defensive zone. While eichel is better it does not mean he is in talk for selkye. So my question is why can’t eichel improve as much in defensive zone as Matthews does. They are basically the same age and should improve at the same rate. For you to think otherwise just shows your a leaf fan and not realistic.

After eichel puts up another 2 goals on the leafs. And “mathews” sucks again!!!!
Nov. 30, 2019 at 4:46 p.m.
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That was a joke, he said that


hes a boomer.. leave him
 
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