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Niku and Myers

Created by: Trickster
Initial Creation Date: Nov 26, 2019
Published: Nov 30, 2019 at 6:25 pm
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
3 way trade =

To Jets
Cirelli

To Lightning
1st rounder from Leafs
2nd rounder from Jets
Rights to James Greenway(Leafs)

To Leafs
Niku
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Dzierkals, Martins4$925,000
Kokkonen, Mikko4$925,000
Räsänen, Eemeli4$925,000
Stotts, Riley4$925,000
Koster, Mike3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Myers, Philippe1$925,000
Dermott, Travis3$3,000,000
Mikheyev, Ilya3$2,550,000
Åberg, Pontus2$800,000
Brooks, Adam2$800,000
Engvall, Pierre2$800,000
Gauthier, Frédérik2$800,000
Kaskisuo, Kasimir2$800,000
Kivihalme, Teemu2$800,000
Marchment, Mason2$800,000
Timashov, Dmytro2$800,000
Cirelli, Anthony1$925,000
Niku, Sami2$925,000
Jarry, Tristan3$1,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Holl, Justin2$800,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Okulov, Konstantin2$925,000
Grigorenko, Mikhail2$925,000
Nesterov, Nikita2$925,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Myers, Philippe [RFA Rights]
  2. Ratcliffe, Isaac
PHI
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Niku, Sami [RFA Rights]
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (WPG)
WPG
    TOR
    1. Cirelli, Anthony [RFA Rights]
    TBL
    1. Greenway, James [Reserve List]
    2. 2021 1st round pick (TOR)
    3. 2020 2nd round pick (WPG)
    TOR
      WPG
      1. Cirelli, Anthony
      TOR
      1. Jarry, Tristan [RFA Rights]
      PIT
      1. Bracco, Jeremy [RFA Rights]
      2. 2020 3rd round pick (CBJ)
      Buyouts
      • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
      Retained Salary Transactions
      • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2020
      TOR
      TOR
      VGK
      TOR
      CAR
      COL
      EDM
      SJS
      STL
      WPG
      2021
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      2022
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
      22$83,500,000$76,271,866$0$400,000$7,228,134
      Left WingCenterRight Wing
      TOR
      Hyman, Zach
      $2,250,000
      LW
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      TOR
      Tavares, John
      $11,000,000
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 5
      TOR
      Marner, Mitchell
      $10,893,000
      RW
      UFA - 5
      TOR
      Mikheyev, Ilya
      $2,550,000
      LW, RW
      RFA
      TOR
      Matthews, Auston
      $11,634,000
      C
      UFA - 4
      TOR
      Nylander, William
      $6,962,366
      RW, LW
      UFA - 4
      TOR
      Johnsson, Andreas
      $3,400,000
      LW
      UFA - 3
      TOR
      Kerfoot, Alexander
      $3,500,000
      C, LW
      UFA - 3
      TOR
      Moore, Trevor
      $775,000
      RW, LW
      RFA - 1
      TOR
      Engvall, Pierre
      $800,000
      LW, RW
      RFA - 2
      Okulov, Konstantin
      $925,000
      TOR
      Korshkov, Yegor
      $925,000
      RW
      RFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      TOR
      Rielly, Morgan
      $5,000,000
      LD
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      Myers, Philippe
      $925,000
      RD
      RFA
      TOR
      Andersen, Frederik
      $5,000,000
      G
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      TOR
      Dermott, Travis
      $3,000,000
      LD
      RFA
      Niku, Sami
      $925,000
      RD
      RFA
      Jarry, Tristan
      $1,250,000
      G
      RFA
      TOR
      Sandin, Rasmus
      $894,167
      LD
      RFA - 2
      TOR
      Liljegren, Timothy
      $863,333
      RD
      RFA - 2
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
      TOR
      Gauthier, Frédérik
      $800,000
      C
      RFA
      TOR
      Holl, Justin
      $800,000
      RD
      NTC
      UFA - 3

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      Nov 30, 2019 at 6:30
      #1
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      Flyers in no case should trade Myers.
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      Nov 30, 2019 at 6:32
      #2
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      Quoting: Jaycee
      Flyers in no case should trade Myers.


      Jets in no case should trade Niku, and pens in no case should trade Jarry
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      Nov 30, 2019 at 6:39
      #3
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      Quoting: AFOX10900
      Jets in no case should trade Niku, and pens in no case should trade Jarry


      None of these trades are that far off. Philly already has 4 top 4 D without Myers so it's not a far fetched idea to trade him to get better elsewhere.

      Winning could use help with a 2C and Tampa gets cap relief in the form of picks. Not bad.
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      Nov 30, 2019 at 6:42
      #4
      Thread Starter
      Hugh Hefner of CF
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      Quoting: AFOX10900
      Jets in no case should trade Niku, and pens in no case should trade Jarry


      I heard Niku does not have a spot on the Jets, that's why I started this one.

      Flyers, I feel have top4 D without Myers for 2020-2021 and they can add some offense to the FWs with this move.

      Lightning do this trade if Cirelli and them cant agree to a contract mainly because he wants a long term deal from Tampa and they have not much cap space, a 1st rounder, 2nd rounder and prospect is fair value for #2 C who still has much too prove.

      Only signed him to Leafs to trade him to Jets.


      Jarry I feel will get moved because Pens will finally have to choose between him and Desmith.
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      Nov 30, 2019 at 6:43
      #5
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      Quoting: oneX
      None of these trades are that far off. Philly already has 4 top 4 D without Myers so it's not a far fetched idea to trade him to get better elsewhere.

      Winning could use help with a 2C and Tampa gets cap relief in the form of picks. Not bad.


      WPG needs defense way more than a 2C (wheeler is currently their 2C btw...) Niku is only in the AHL bc he's recovering from an injury, and Jarry has been better than Murray this year, so I highly doubt PIT trades him...
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      Nov 30, 2019 at 6:44
      #6
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      Quoting: Trickster
      I heard Niku does not have a spot on the Jets, that's why I started this one.

      Flyers, I feel have top4 D without Myers for 2020-2021 and they can add some offense to the FWs with this move.

      Lightning do this trade if Cirelli and them can agree to a contract mainly because he wants a long term deal from Tampa and they have not much cap space, a 1st rounder, 2nd rounder and prospect is fair value for #2 C who still has much too prove.

      Only signed him to Leafs to trade him to Jets.


      Niku has a spot on the Jets, he's just recovering from a nagging injury
      Nov 30, 2019 at 6:46
      #7
      Thread Starter
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      Quoting: AFOX10900
      WPG needs defense way more than a 2C (wheeler is currently their 2C btw...) Niku is only in the AHL bc he's recovering from an injury, and Jarry has been better than Murray this year, so I highly doubt PIT trades him...


      https://lastwordonhockey.com/2019/11/26/nhl-rumours-winnipeg-jets-toronto-maple-leafs-san-jose-sharks/
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      Nov 30, 2019 at 6:49
      #8
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      Every other source I've heard says Niku is over Biteto Dahlstrom Kulikov, Letestu is done for the year...
      Nov 30, 2019 at 6:52
      #9
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      Hugh Hefner of CF
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      Quoting: AFOX10900
      Every other source I've heard says Niku is over Biteto Dahlstrom Kulikov, Letestu is done for the year...


      I heard Heinola, Dahlstrom, and even Stanley might be a head of Niku.
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      Nov 30, 2019 at 6:57
      #10
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      Quoting: Trickster
      I heard Heinola, Dahlstrom, and even Stanley might be a head of Niku.


      Stanley definitely isn't, Dahlstrom definitely isn't, and Heinola is in Europe for the rest of the year
      Nov 30, 2019 at 6:58
      #11
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      Quoting: Trickster

      Flyers, I feel have top4 D without Myers for 2020-2021 and they can add some offense to the FWs with this move.


      Who will be their Top 4 D for next year? Why do we need Kapanen if we have young top six wingers like Farabee, Konecny, and Lindblom for our future?
      Nov 30, 2019 at 7:12
      #12
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      Quoting: Couturier
      Who will be their Top 4 D for next year? Why do we need Kapanen if we have young top six wingers like Farabee, Konecny, and Lindblom for our future?


      Provorov, Sanheim, Niskanen, and Ghost.
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      Nov 30, 2019 at 7:16
      #13
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      Quoting: Trickster
      Provorov, Sanheim, Niskanen, and Ghost.


      Can't rely on Ghost right now. I'd rather have a younger two-way guy like Myers as well. Would also like two LHD and two RHD.
      Nov 30, 2019 at 7:18
      #14
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      Quoting: Couturier
      Can't rely on Ghost right now. I'd rather have a younger two-way guy like Myers as well. Would also like two LHD and two RHD.


      Right now, sure.
      This is 2020.

      Niskanen and Sanheim are RHD and Provorov and Ghost LHD, right?

      And Myers is RHD.
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      Nov 30, 2019 at 7:45
      #15
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      Quoting: Trickster
      Right now, sure.
      This is 2020.

      Niskanen and Sanheim are RHD and Provorov and Ghost LHD, right?

      And Myers is RHD.


      Sanheim is LHD. Myers is their only young RHD. You don’t trade a 6’5 RHD with his skating ability. If anything the Flyers LHD are expendable with York and Zamula in the pipeline who are both Left.
      Nov 30, 2019 at 7:48
      #16
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      Quoting: Jaycee
      Sanheim is LHD. Myers is their only young RHD. You don’t trade a 6’5 RHD with his skating ability. If anything the Flyers LHD are expendable with York and Zamula in the pipeline who are both Left.


      Sanheim is left handed but plays on his offside.
      Similar to Hainsey and Niku.
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      Nov 30, 2019 at 7:51
      #17
      MisstheWhalers
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      As a Jets fan I think this is good for Winnipeg but idk if Tampa is doing this and is Toronto moving another 1st out? Can't see it but ya never know.

      The Jets should consider moving Niku cause right now other teams would be interested and they don't seem willing to play him with the Jets, much longer in the AHL and his stock likely starts falling and Heinola looks like he'll for sure be ready for the NHL next season so is having such a smallish defense in Morrissey, Pionk, Heinola and Niku a good idea, probably not.
      Nov 30, 2019 at 7:52
      #18
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      Quoting: Trickster
      Sanheim is left handed but plays on his offside.
      Similar to Hainsey and Niku.


      He did last season it’s been Ghost this season playing offside. But i’m talking Right-Handed Defenseman. Flyers don’t have many good Right-Handed D prospects. Why trade away one that is playing well now.
      Nov 30, 2019 at 8:01
      #19
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      Quoting: MisstheWhalers
      As a Jets fan I think this is good for Winnipeg but idk if Tampa is doing this and is Toronto moving another 1st out? Can't see it but ya never know.

      The Jets should consider moving Niku cause right now other teams would be interested and they don't seem willing to play him with the Jets, much longer in the AHL and his stock likely starts falling and Heinola looks like he'll for sure be ready for the NHL next season so is having such a smallish defense in Morrissey, Pionk, Heinola and Niku a good idea, probably not.


      Highly value your perspective on the Jets, thanks.
      Nov 30, 2019 at 8:05
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      @MisstheWhalers always gives a fair analysis of the Jets so okay with what they said about Niku and where the Jets are in keeping him vs moving him.

      As for Tampa, they have cap issues for next season and this is a way to address them.
      Nov 30, 2019 at 8:36
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      Thanks for the link! I never heard of that site before, I will definitely have to check it out. How good is it? Is it one of the first sites you go to for info or just one you check periodically? Just wondering what your recommendation is on it.
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      Nov 30, 2019 at 8:37
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      Quoting: oneX
      @MisstheWhalers always gives a fair analysis of the Jets so okay with what they said about Niku and where the Jets are in keeping him vs moving him.

      As for Tampa, they have cap issues for next season and this is a way to address them.


      What else have you heard about Niku? I'm curious as I only know what a few posters on here told me.
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      Nov 30, 2019 at 8:43
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      Quoting: Sign_em_up000000
      Thanks for the link! I never heard of that site before, I will definitely have to check it out. How good is it? Is it one of the first sites you go to for info or just one you check periodically? Just wondering what your recommendation is on it.


      Check it every few days.
      Part of my hockey fix.
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      Nov 30, 2019 at 8:51
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      Quoting: Sign_em_up000000
      What else have you heard about Niku? I'm curious as I only know what a few posters on here told me.


      As @MisstheWhalers mentioned, Winning have a few young players to consider and so improving in other spots makes sense.
      Everyone is saying they need a D but I tell you...those young Winning D have impressed me playing at the NHL level and getting better. Moving a guy like Niku for 2C will help Wheeler and Scheifele.
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      Nov 30, 2019 at 8:51
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      Quoting: Trickster
      Check it every few days.
      Part of my hockey fix.


      Thanks. Like I said I've never heard of it before, I'm definitely going to check it out. What other sites do you use?
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