CBJ Not saying we should do it but

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Created by: Blazingbat11

Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 2, 2019

Published: Dec. 2, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

I'd like to think value here is way in CBJs favor here long term. I think you can make a case that Kotkaniemi has the same potential as Dubois. but the reality is Dubois already has a 60+pts season under his belt. CBJ wins in terms of value but MTL get the guy they've been dreaming of...

Make a move / get lucky for Lafreniere and Bergevin / all "vive le Quebec" die hards get their wet dream 1st line of:
Lafreniere - Dubois - Drouin

Caufield abandons the NCAA (can you even do that mid-season???) and signs ELC.

Question for CBJ fans! Would Wennberg have to be included in this deal? would rather keep Thompson in #4C spot, I just thought letting CBJ dump Wennberg and his contract as well would put the deal over the edge.

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST		YEARS	CAP HIT
Caufield, Cole		3	$925,000

Trades

MTL

CBJ

MTL

2021 5th round pick (EDM)

EDM

Thompson, Nate

Additional Details:

55% face-off penalty killer for playoff depth.

Buyouts

Steve Mason: $1,366,667

Buried

Dale Weise: $1,275,000 ($2,350,000)
Karl Alzner: $3,550,000 ($4,625,000)
Matthew Peca: $225,000 ($1,300,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$74,384,641	$0	$3,057,500	$7,115,359

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tatar, Tomas $4,800,000$4,800,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Danault, Phillip $3,083,333$3,083,333 C UFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan $3,750,000$3,750,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Dubois, Pierre-Luc $894,166$894,166 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 1	Caufield, Cole $925,000$925,000 LW, RW UFA
Lehkonen, Artturi $2,400,000$2,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Suzuki, Nick $863,333$863,333 ($425,000$425K) C UFA - 3	Anderson, Josh $1,850,000$1,850,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Wennberg, Alexander $4,900,000$4,900,000 C UFA - 4	Armia, Joel $2,600,000$2,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chiarot, Ben $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 7	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 7
Mete, Victor $748,333$748,333 LD/RD UFA - 1	Petry, Jeff $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Kinkaid, Keith $1,750,000$1,750,000 G UFA - 1
Kulak, Brett $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 3
	Fleury, Cale $771,666$771,666 ($132,500$132K) RD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Cousins, Nick $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, C UFA - 1
Weal, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 2
Folin, Christian $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Caufield, C.		Dubois, P.		Gallagher, B.
	Weber, S.		Drouin, J.

Power Play 2
Anderson, J.		Suzuki, N.		Tatar, T.
	Petry, J.		Mete, V.

Penalty Kill 1
	Danault, P.	Lehkonen, A.
	Chiarot, B.	Weber, S.

Penalty Kill 2
	Wennberg, A.	Armia, J.
	Mete, V.	Petry, J.

Dec. 2, 2019 at 1:21 a.m.

Ajp_18

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Hard pass from Columbus. We lost that trade by a mile. We have no interest in moving 2 of our top 3 centers for Domi and someone who’s struggling as a top 6 center for PLD, Wennberg and Anderson.... this is awful for Columbus and gets your number blocked.

Also Wennberg isn’t a dump anymore. He’s starting to turn it around.

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Dec. 2, 2019 at 1:44 a.m.

Copenhagen

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Don't the Oilers have the number 1 PK in the NHL

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Dec. 2, 2019 at 1:56 a.m.

Blazingbat11

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Quoting: Ajp_18

This response has to be a joke right. How much value are you giving to Anderson and Wennberg here??? Anderson has a measly 3pts / 1g this season, avg close to 16:30 a game..., Wennberg is playing close to 1st line minutes at almost 18minutes a game...and has 2g and 9pts in 26 games... remove them if you want. I thought I was doing you a favor lol

Domi + KK for Dubois is definitely close, and you can really make an argument for either way I guess, but CBJ comes out on top imo. KK isn't struggling to play top 6, he's being given zero opportunity to play that role. Averages only 13minutes a night with limited PP time (2nd unit). On the other hand PLD (2 years older) plays 18minutes a night with all the PP time in the world. Like I said above PLD has more value now for sure, but KK clearly has similar potential.

Dec. 2, 2019 at 1:58 a.m.

Blazingbat11

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Quoting: Copenhagen

Don't the Oilers have the number 1 PK in the NHL

Could be any playoff team as far as i'm concerned. I only moved him because I took a cap dump in Wennberg.

Dec. 2, 2019 at 2:07 a.m.

Ajp_18

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Quoting: Blazingbat11

Columbus is letting their players work through their issues. Maybe you should be calm and let KK would through his. He could easily become a top 6 center and pairing him with Suzuki would be amazing especially if you can put Domi on the wing.

Also don’t look too far into points, Wennberg had been Columbus best 2 way center this year and Anderson isn’t putting up points but still plays a hard nose game that other teams hate playing against. So even though they aren’t putting up points we don’t want to move them.

Dec. 2, 2019 at 2:14 a.m.

Copenhagen

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Quoting: Blazingbat11

I wouldn't do that trade if I were the Jackets either!

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Dec. 2, 2019 at 2:21 a.m.

Blazingbat11

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Quoting: Ajp_18

Oh for sure, I agree. Habs should be patient. This was just my sad *8 loses in row* attempt of imagining a future 1st line of Lafreniere - Dubois - Drouin lol

Dec. 2, 2019 at 3:01 a.m.

aedoran

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Quoting: Copenhagen

Don't the Oilers have the number 1 PK in the NHL

They are #2 but shouldn't an Oilers fan know that?

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Dec. 2, 2019 at 5:29 a.m.

Bill_Karsen

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Quoting: Copenhagen

Don't the Oilers have the number 1 PK in the NHL

San Jose 91%.
Edmonton 87.2%

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Dec. 2, 2019 at 8:56 a.m.

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Gofnut999

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Quoting: Copenhagen

I wouldn't do that trade if I were the Jackets either!

Agreed

Dec. 3, 2019 at 2:19 a.m.

#11

Copenhagen

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Quoting: Bill_Karsen

San Jose 91%.
Edmonton 87.2%

wow you certainly know your numbers even though the played last night and increased their pk. #Checktheinternet

Dec. 3, 2019 at 3:03 a.m.

#12

Bill_Karsen

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Quoting: Copenhagen

wow you certainly know your numbers even though the played last night and increased their pk. #Checktheinternet

You’re posting this 22 hours after me. Am I supposed to come back and update my post after each penalty kill. Sorry but I have a life to live...maybe you should consider getting one. What a dope. #getalife

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