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Huge trade next summer

Created by: SpaghettiPasta
Initial Creation Date: Dec 2, 2019
Published: Dec 2, 2019 at 9:07 pm
Team: 2020-21 New Jersey Devils
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Newhook, Alex3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Bratt, Jesper4$2,700,000
Blackwood, Mackenzie1$700,000
Mueller, Mirco1$700,000
Hayden, John1$700,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Khudobin, Anton1$1,500,000
Simmonds, Wayne1$3,500,000
Greene, Andy1$1,000,000
Ennis, Tyler1$2,000,000
Czarnik, Austin1$1,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Lafrenreie, Alexis3$925,000
Trades
NJD
  1. Newhook, Alex [Reserve List]
  2. Rosén, Calle
  3. 2020 1st round pick (COL)
  4. 2020 3rd round pick (TOR)
  5. 2021 2nd round pick (COL)
  6. 2021 5th round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
If Hall re-signs the second becomes a first and the fifth becomes a fourth
COL
    Taylor Hall
    NJD
    1. 2020 1st round pick (WPG)
    WPG
      Vatanen
      NJD
      1. Price, Carey
      MTL
      1. Gusev, Nikita
      2. 2020 1st round pick (COL)
      3. 2020 3rd round pick (TOR)
      4. 2022 3rd round pick (NJD)
      Buyouts
      • Mike Cammalleri: $1,666,667
      • Cory Schneider: $2,000,000
      • Travis Zajac: $1,916,667
      Recapture Fees
      • Ilya Kovalchuk: $250,000
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2020
      NJD
      WPG
      NJD
      BOS
      NJD
      NJD
      NJD
      2021
      NJD
      COL
      NJD
      NJD
      NJD
      COL
      NJD
      NJD
      2022
      NJD
      NJD
      NJD
      NJD
      CBJ
      NJD
      NJD
      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
      23$84,000,000$70,758,333$0$2,850,000$13,241,667
      Left WingCenterRight Wing
      NJD
      Wood, Miles
      $2,750,000
      LW
      RFA - 2
      NJD
      Hischier, Nico
      $7,250,000
      C
      UFA - 7
      NJD
      Palmieri, Kyle
      $4,650,000
      RW, LW
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      Lafrenreie, Alexis
      $925,000
      NJD
      Hughes, Jack
      $925,000
      C
      RFA - 2
      Ennis, Tyler
      $2,000,000
      C, LW, RW
      UFA
      NJD
      Bratt, Jesper
      $2,700,000
      LW, RW
      RFA
      NJD
      Zacha, Pavel
      $2,250,000
      C
      RFA - 2
      NJD
      Coleman, Blake
      $1,800,000
      C, LW, RW
      UFA - 1
      NJD
      Boqvist, Jesper
      $925,000
      C, LW, RW
      RFA - 2
      NJD
      Hayden, John
      $700,000
      C, RW
      RFA
      NJD
      Simmonds, Wayne
      $3,500,000
      RW, LW
      UFA
      Czarnik, Austin
      $1,000,000
      RW, LW
      UFA
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      NJD
      Butcher, Will
      $3,733,333
      LD
      UFA - 2
      NJD
      Subban, P.K.
      $9,000,000
      RD
      UFA - 2
      MTL
      Price, Carey
      $10,500,000
      G
      NMC
      UFA - 6
      COL
      Rosén, Calle
      $750,000
      LD
      UFA - 1
      NJD
      Severson, Damon
      $4,166,666
      RD
      UFA - 3
      Khudobin, Anton
      $1,500,000
      G
      UFA
      NJD
      Greene, Andy
      $1,000,000
      LD
      UFA
      NJD
      Carrick, Connor
      $1,500,000
      RD
      UFA - 1
      NJD
      Mueller, Mirco
      $700,000
      LD
      RFA
      NJD
      Tennyson, Matt
      $700,000
      RD
      UFA - 1

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      Dec 2, 2019 at 9:08
      #1
      I just need sauce
      Joined: Oct 2017
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      I don't think this is a good move for the devils to make, but I see them doing this.
      If price becomes available teams will overpay for him
      Dec 2, 2019 at 9:09
      #2
      NowAvoidingHomework
      Joined: Apr 2018
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      Don't think the Avs are giving up that much for just a chance to sign a guy that may not sign with them, and they could just as easily try to sign for free at UFA.

      Also I doubt Montreal gives up Price for that.
      Dec 2, 2019 at 9:10
      #3
      Thread Starter
      I just need sauce
      Joined: Oct 2017
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      Quoting: BlastnyFromThePastny
      Don't think the Avs are giving up that much for just a chance to sign a guy that may not sign with them, and they could just as easily try to sign for free at UFA.

      Also I doubt Montreal gives up Price for that.


      I agree. That is about what price is worth because of his contract, but teams will overpay for him
      Dec 2, 2019 at 9:10
      #4
      Joined: Jun 2016
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      Price has been on the decline for a while now I would not give much more then that with retained money that contract is terrible
      Dec 2, 2019 at 9:22
      #5
      Thread Starter
      I just need sauce
      Joined: Oct 2017
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      Quoting: jordant89
      Price has been on the decline for a while now I would not give much more then that with retained money that contract is terrible


      Habs wouldn't accept this imo. This might even be an overpay. Price isn't the right move for many teams, but with how NJ aquired PK, I see them trying to get price
      Dec 2, 2019 at 10:15
      #6
      MisstheWhalers
      Joined: Jan 2019
      Posts: 6,681
      Likes: 2,206
      Vatanen will be a UFA by the summer, NJ isn't getting a 1st for him at that point.. Lol
      Dec 2, 2019 at 10:46
      #7
      mokumboi
      Joined: Apr 2019
      Posts: 1,379
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      Avs aren't giving you all that for a rental. And you're not getting a first for Vatanen, either.
      Dec 2, 2019 at 10:52
      #8
      Joined: May 2016
      Posts: 2,238
      Likes: 448
      C'mon now, I want the biggest return for Hall, but there is no way they put Newhook in a trade without having him extended in Colo
      Dec 3, 2019 at 12:57
      #9
      Joined: Jun 2018
      Posts: 8,398
      Likes: 1,725
      COL declines this.

      People need to be realistic about Hall.
      He's had 2 good seasons.
      He's been hurt a lot. He's gonna be 29 next year. Which basically says he's on the decline.
      On top of it, any extension. Who wants to sign a 29 year old to an 8 year deal for big money?

      There are a lot and I mean a lot of negatives around Hall.
      I'm not sure any team who goes after him on a cup run is giving up much because I don't think they are signing him long term. Teams just don't want to sign guys till they are 36 anymore especially at huge cap hits. Especially for a guy who is always injured and isn't playing all that great coming off knee surgery.
      So there will be problems for a contract extension from the start.

      People need to be way more realistic in their expectations
      Dec 3, 2019 at 6:04
      #10
      Thread Starter
      I just need sauce
      Joined: Oct 2017
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      Quoting: MisstheWhalers
      Vatanen will be a UFA by the summer, NJ isn't getting a 1st for him at that point.. Lol


      Quoting: mokumboi
      Avs aren't giving you all that for a rental. And you're not getting a first for Vatanen, either.


      Quoting: Smitty426
      C'mon now, I want the biggest return for Hall, but there is no way they put Newhook in a trade without having him extended in Colo


      Quoting: pharrow
      COL declines this.

      People need to be realistic about Hall.
      He's had 2 good seasons.
      He's been hurt a lot. He's gonna be 29 next year. Which basically says he's on the decline.
      On top of it, any extension. Who wants to sign a 29 year old to an 8 year deal for big money?

      There are a lot and I mean a lot of negatives around Hall.
      I'm not sure any team who goes after him on a cup run is giving up much because I don't think they are signing him long term. Teams just don't want to sign guys till they are 36 anymore especially at huge cap hits. Especially for a guy who is always injured and isn't playing all that great coming off knee surgery.
      So there will be problems for a contract extension from the start.

      People need to be way more realistic in their expectations


      Do you seriously think that is the point of this post?
      Dec 3, 2019 at 6:21
      #11
      mokumboi
      Joined: Apr 2019
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      Quoting: SpaghettiPasta
      Do you seriously think that is the point of this post?



      Okay, so clue us in. What is the point?
      Dec 3, 2019 at 7:19
      #12
      Thread Starter
      I just need sauce
      Joined: Oct 2017
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      Quoting: mokumboi
      Okay, so clue us in. What is the point?


      The probability of the devils trading for Price
      Dec 3, 2019 at 9:02
      #13
      mokumboi
      Joined: Apr 2019
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      Quoting: SpaghettiPasta
      The probability of the devils trading for Price



      Which is... ?
      Dec 3, 2019 at 11:10
      #14
      Joined: Jan 2019
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      Price has full NMC . He didn't want to leave the mediocre team when he had the chance so he won't do it now. Besides, that Hall package is an overpayment even in a sign-and-trade
      Dec 3, 2019 at 11:26
      #15
      HonestHockeyNYI
      Joined: Jul 2019
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      Why would Colorado give that up for Hall when they could get him for free on July 1st?
       
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