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Team: 2019-20 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 2, 2019
Published: Dec. 2, 2019
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We all know this type of trade isn’t happening unless Colorado really wants to go all in for the next 4-5 years and Montreal wants to go full rebuild mode
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Dec. 2, 2019 at 9:25 p.m.
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knowing that Makar and Byram are untouchable ,I would probably ask for Girard instead. And it won't work either way.
Dec. 2, 2019 at 9:43 p.m.
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Quoting: john_michael
knowing that Makar and Byram are untouchable ,I would probably ask for Girard instead. And it won't work either way.


Yea would be nice but I feel like he’s just as much of an untouchable especially after signing that team friendly contract
Dec. 2, 2019 at 9:57 p.m.
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If we decide to trade for Price, I'd be happy with that trade. I love Timmins and I think Jost is still bursting with potential and could break out this or next season. A goalie trade will probably happen because it IS tradition. Roy, Theodore.....
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Dec. 2, 2019 at 10:00 p.m.
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knowing that Makar and Byram are untouchable ,I would probably ask for Girard instead. And it won't work either way.

Do you have a time machine bc current price doesn’t get you girard

Holy heck do Montreal fans over value price who had been terrible this year and has one of the worst contracts in the nhl bc of it
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Dec. 2, 2019 at 10:02 p.m.
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Price isn’t an upgrade over grubauer, it’s time for Montreal fans to finally understand that

You can’t move price and get value in return, he’s untradable right now
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Dec. 2, 2019 at 10:03 p.m.
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Do you have a time machine bc current price doesn’t get you girard

Holy heck do Montreal fans over value price who had been ate at terrible this tear and has one of the worst contracts in the nhl bc of it


Reason why I said it won't work... I said that's what I would ask for. For Timmins and Jost, I prefer sticking with Price and hope for the best. He won't be good until we put a decent defense in front of him anyway.
Dec. 2, 2019 at 10:07 p.m.
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Reason why I said it won't work... I said that's what I would ask for. For Timmins and Jost, I prefer sticking with Price and hope for the best. He won't be good until we put a decent defense in front of him anyway.


You aren’t getting a Timmins either, price value doesn’t get you teams top prospects

Why are avs downgrading their goalie giving up young assets and taking on a bad cap hit with this trade?

Avs get much worse with this trade
Dec. 2, 2019 at 10:17 p.m.
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You aren’t getting a Timmins either, price value doesn’t get you teams top prospects

Why are avs downgrading their goalie giving up young assets and taking on a bad cap hit with this trade?

Avs get much worse with this trade


Unles you watch Montreal games on a somewhat regular basis your opinions are invalid just reading your comments it’s clear you are clueless do more than read up on stats and watch how many high scoring chances price faces per game Mtls def is atrocious if you honestly think price is a downgrade then there’s no hope for your hockey mind
Dec. 2, 2019 at 10:17 p.m.
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Quoting: BlastnyFromThePastny
If we decide to trade for Price, I'd be happy with that trade. I love Timmins and I think Jost is still bursting with potential and could break out this or next season. A goalie trade will probably happen because it IS tradition. Roy, Theodore.....


Have you looked at prices numbers lately? He’s 32, with a sub .900sv% and signed for 10.5m for 7 more years
Dec. 2, 2019 at 10:19 p.m.
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Unles you watch Montreal games on a somewhat regular basis your opinions are invalid just reading your comments it’s clear you are clueless do more than read up on stats and watch how many high scoring chances price faces per game Mtls def is atrocious if you honestly think price is a downgrade then there’s no hope for your hockey mind


Do you watch the avs and grubauer? Look in mirror if you want to play this game. Blaming your D why price is a sub .900sv% goalie is just lying to yourself and in denial that price at 32 is declining

You cherry pick high danger chances as a crutch reason...yet in context

https://thehockeywriters.com/canadiens-2019-20-problems-goaltending/

They break down how price just hasn’t been good though and warrants blame himself and it’s not just on The D
Dec. 2, 2019 at 10:27 p.m.
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Do you watch the avs and grubauer? Look in mirror if you want to play this game. Blaming your D why price is a sub .900sv% goalie is just lying to yourself and in denial that price at 32 is declining


Avs are my second favourite team and I love Big Mac so I do watch quite a bit of there games I never said grubes wasn’t good but price is def still better me and pretty much every professional hockey analyst out there says the same and of course you can blame the D you’re not going to have good stats/games if the team in front of you is constantly gives up high scoring chances game in and game out
Dec. 2, 2019 at 10:29 p.m.
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Avs are my second favourite team and I love Big Mac so I do watch quite a bit of there games I never said grubes wasn’t good but price is def still better me and pretty much every professional hockey analyst out there says the same and of course you can blame the D you’re not going to have good stats/games if the team in front of you is constantly gives up high scoring chances game in and game out


Ive edited with an article, it breaks down it down further. Price isn’t blameless from his poor stats

You can’t just blame the D, the data says otherwise
Dec. 2, 2019 at 10:30 p.m.
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Have you looked at prices numbers lately? He’s 32, with a sub .900sv% and signed for 10.5m for 7 more years


Behind our defense those numbers would be higher. Montreal has some weak D. The amount they rely on an aging Weber is insane. Plus buddy is only putting 8mil on us, which is better than Bobrovsky, but that's about it haha . If there was a goalie that could rebound from numbers like those, Price could be one. I don't think this trade is something that needs to happen at all though. I just like making the joke.
Dec. 2, 2019 at 10:35 p.m.
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Ive edited with an article, it breaks down it down further. Price isn’t blameless from his poor stats

You can’t just blame the D, the data says otherwise


You can't JUST blame the D, but you can include it as one factor. Playing behind better D can increase confidence, increased confidence can increase play. It can have a snowball effect. Playing for a team with high skill that wins games gives goalies confidence to play well.
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Dec. 2, 2019 at 10:39 p.m.
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Quoting: BlastnyFromThePastny
You can't JUST blame the D, but you can include it as one factor. Playing behind better D can increase confidence, increased confidence can increase play. It can have a snowball effect. Playing for a team with high skill that wins games gives goalies confidence to play well.


The advance stats say other wise, despite better shot and high danger suppression he’s still been bad. As much as hab fans blame the D, price deserves the same blame bc he’s not helping them either
Dec. 2, 2019 at 10:42 p.m.
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Ive edited with an article, it breaks down it down further. Price isn’t blameless from his poor stats

You can’t just blame the D, the data says otherwise


Interesting read my concern with all those stats is one goalie can face twice as many one timers in that high scoring chance zone than the next goalie and it doesn’t take into account the caliber of player goalies are facing in that zone one goalie could face top 6 players for 55% of their calculated average and another goalie could face bottom 6 players for 65% ... these reasons are why I will never trust calculated stats they never tell the whole story
Dec. 2, 2019 at 10:47 p.m.
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Interesting read my concern with all those stats is one goalie can face twice as many one timers in that high scoring chance zone than the next goalie and it doesn’t take into account the caliber of player goalies are facing in that zone one goalie could face top 6 players for 55% of their calculated average and another goalie could face bottom 6 players for 65% ... these reasons are why I will never trust calculated stats they never tell the whole story


The point was prices numbers can’t be solely blamed on the D bc he hasn’t been helped himself out either. He deserves just as much as the blame too

Since he has a bad numbers 2 years ago, there is some serious doubt in his ability to be a perineal top 5 starter. I think those days are gone and if he’s on he’s still a quality starter but at 10.5m you can’t risk that. You can get what he’s bringing to The table at half the cost. Even his bounce back season last year, he wasn’t any better than the avs starters so where is this Upgrade in net? It’s been almost 2.5 seasons since it’s been best in the world price
Dec. 2, 2019 at 10:56 p.m.
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The point was prices numbers can’t be solely blamed on the D bc he hasn’t been helped himself out either. He deserves just as much as the blame too

Since he has a bad numbers 2 years ago, there is some serious doubt in his ability to be a perineal top 5 starter. I think those days are gone and if he’s on he’s still a quality starter but at 10.5m you can’t risk that. You can get what he’s bringing to The table at half the cost. Even his bounce back season last year, he wasn’t any better than the avs starters so where is this Upgrade in net? It’s been almost 2.5 seasons since it’s been best in the world price


Like I said before stats never tell the whole story so people can keep telling themselves that price is ****ty but I guarantee if Colorado ever ended up getting price they’d go from a playoff team to a Stanley cup team
Dec. 2, 2019 at 11:34 p.m.
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Like I said before stats never tell the whole story so people can keep telling themselves that price is ****ty but I guarantee if Colorado ever ended up getting price they’d go from a playoff team to a Stanley cup team


Nah, goaltending isn’t a weakness so price doesn’t take them anywhere different from where they are now.

sorry he’s just not an upgrade over grubauer over the past calendar year. There is just too much inflated value and perception in price bc of how we was previously playing. Grubauer just has flat out been the better goalie and getting the job done, he’s not being propped up by the avs D; hiding blemishes. He’s came as advertised
Dec. 2, 2019 at 11:48 p.m.
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MTL isnt carrying a 2.5 mill cap hit for 7 years with no player to show for it
 
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