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Oilers fans which trade

Created by: oilnate
Initial Creation Date: Dec 2, 2019
Published: Dec 4, 2019 at 12:43 am
Team: 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers
Team Explanation
Which trade do you like best/is most realistic, please leave thoughts, not restricted to oilers fans
Trades
EDM
  1. Fiala, Kevin
  2. Donato, Ryan
MIN
    Yamamoto
    2nd 2020
    Jones
    EDM
    1. Tatar, Tomas
    2. Poehling, Ryan
    MTL
      Yamamoto/Puljujarvi
      1st 2020
      Jones/Samorunkov
      EDM
      1. Palmieri, Kyle
      2. Mcleod, Michael
      NJD
        Yamamoto
        1st 2020
        Samorunkov/Jones/Benning
        EDM
        1. Tierney, Chris
        2. Brown, Connor
        OTT
          Yamamoto
          2nd 2020
          Jones/Benning
          EDM
          1. Strome, Ryan
          Additional Details:
          buchnevich or kreider or Lemeiux or Fast
          NYR
            Yamamoto/JP
            2nd or 1st 2020 depends on winger
            Defensive young guy
            Buyouts
            • Andrej Sekera: $2,500,000
            • Benoit Pouliot: $1,333,333
            • Eric Gryba: $300,000
            Retained Salary Transactions
            • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
            DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
            2020
            EDM
            EDM
            EDM
            EDM
            EDM
            EDM
            2021
            EDM
            EDM
            EDM
            EDM
            EDM
            EDM
            PIT
            EDM
            2022
            EDM
            EDM
            EDM
            EDM
            EDM
            EDM
            EDM
            ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
            34$81,500,000$104,626,998$0$4,057,500-$23,126,998
            Left WingCenterRight Wing
            EDM
            Draisaitl, Leon
            $8,500,000
            C, LW, RW
            UFA - 6
            EDM
            McDavid, Connor
            $12,500,000
            C
            UFA - 7
            EDM
            Kassian, Zack
            $1,950,000
            RW
            UFA - 1
            EDM
            Neal, James
            $5,750,000
            RW, LW
            UFA - 4
            EDM
            Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
            $6,000,000
            C, LW
            UFA - 2
            EDM
            Gagner, Sam
            $3,150,000
            C, RW
            UFA - 1
            EDM
            Nygård, Joakim
            $925,000
            LW
            UFA - 1
            EDM
            Sheahan, Riley
            $900,000
            LW, C
            UFA - 1
            EDM
            Archibald, Josh
            $1,000,000
            RW
            UFA - 1
            EDM
            Khaira, Jujhar
            $1,200,000
            C, LW
            RFA - 2
            EDM
            Haas, Gaëtan
            $925,000
            C
            UFA - 1
            EDM
            Chiasson, Alex
            $2,150,000
            RW
            UFA - 2
            EDM
            Granlund, Markus
            $1,300,000
            RW, LW, C
            UFA - 1
            MTL
            Poehling, Ryan
            $925,000
            C, LW
            RFA - 2
            EDM
            Russell, Patrick
            $700,000
            RW
            UFA - 1
            MIN
            Fiala, Kevin
            $3,000,000
            LW
            RFA - 2
            NJD
            Mcleod, Michael
            $863,333
            C
            RFA - 2
            EDM
            Yamamoto, Kailer
            $894,166
            RW, C
            RFA - 2
            MTL
            Tatar, Tomas
            $4,800,000
            LW, RW
            UFA - 2
            OTT
            Tierney, Chris
            $2,937,500
            C
            RFA - 1
            MIN
            Donato, Ryan
            $1,900,000
            RW, LW, C
            RFA - 2
            OTT
            Brown, Connor
            $2,100,000
            LW, RW
            RFA - 1
            NYR
            Strome, Ryan
            $3,100,000
            C, RW
            RFA - 1
            NJD
            Palmieri, Kyle
            $4,650,000
            RW, LW
            NTC
            UFA - 2
            Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
            EDM
            Klefbom, Oscar
            $4,167,000
            LD
            UFA - 4
            EDM
            Larsson, Adam
            $4,166,666
            RD
            UFA - 2
            EDM
            Koskinen, Mikko
            $4,500,000
            G
            NTC
            UFA - 3
            EDM
            Nurse, Darnell
            $3,200,000
            LD
            UFA - 1
            EDM
            Russell, Kris
            $4,000,000
            RD
            NMC NTC
            UFA - 2
            EDM
            Smith, Mike
            $2,000,000
            G
            NTC
            UFA - 1
            EDM
            Jones, Caleb
            $720,000
            LD
            RFA - 1
            EDM
            Benning, Matthew
            $1,900,000
            RD
            RFA - 1
            EDM
            Manning, Brandon
            $2,250,000
            LD
            UFA - 1
            EDM
            Bear, Ethan
            $720,000
            RD
            RFA - 1
            ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
            EDM
            Brodziak, Kyle
            $1,150,000
            C
            UFA - 1
            EDM
            Mantha, Ryan
            $870,000
            RD
            RFA - 1

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            Dec 4, 2019 at 7:46
            #26
            Joined: Jan 2019
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            Quoting: oilnate
            First year in the minors and he's not getting a lot of opportunity, look more at his stats in guelph, it will come


            Junior stats don't always translate to Pro.

            At this point in his career, I wouldn't even pay a 5th round pick for him.

            18th highest scoring player
            6th Highest scoring defensemen
            Dec 4, 2019 at 10:23
            #27
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            Quoting: HabsForEver
            Junior stats don't always translate to Pro.

            At this point in his career, I wouldn't even pay a 5th round pick for him.

            18th highest scoring player
            6th Highest scoring defensemen


            There's alot of people who would disagree with that. I would say he's our best defensive prospect right behind Bouchard and Broberg. Almost every player struggles going from junior to pro. Poehling is in Laval right now and only has 7 points through 22 games. But he's developing. So is Samorukov, the problem is Samorukov doesn't get the minutes being stuck behind guys like Jones and Laggesson, then Manning when he gets sent down so he ends up fighting seasoned AHL veteran keegan lowe for minutes. He'll turn it around give him some time
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            Dec 4, 2019 at 10:25
            #28
            Joined: Jan 2019
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            Quoting: oilnate
            There's alot of people who would disagree with that. I would say he's our best defensive prospect right behind Bouchard and Broberg. Almost every player struggles going from junior to pro. Poehling is in Laval right now and only has 7 points through 22 games. But he's developing. So is Samorukov, the problem is Samorukov doesn't get the minutes being stuck behind guys like Jones and Laggesson, then Manning when he gets sent down so he ends up fighting seasoned AHL veteran keegan lowe for minutes. He'll turn it around give him some time


            It's funny you mention that about Poehling.

            He put up 3 points tonight on the 3rd line. Now he has 10 points in 23 games. I don't know who overvalued Samorukov, and he might be a decent prospect, but he definitely isn't worth a 1st as buddy claimed.
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            Dec 4, 2019 at 10:49
            #29
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            Quoting: HabsForEver
            It's funny you mention that about Poehling.

            He put up 3 points tonight on the 3rd line. Now he has 10 points in 23 games. I don't know who overvalued Samorukov, and he might be a decent prospect, but he definitely isn't worth a 1st as buddy claimed.


            lol of course he does. I'll agree he's not worth a first. But I think a 5th is a severe undervalue of such a young player. I think he's worth a second or third like he was drafted right now so I think he's a good filler for the trade since he has a higher ceiling then Jones imo
            Dec 4, 2019 at 10:50
            #30
            Joined: Jan 2019
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            Quoting: oilnate
            lol of course he does. I'll agree he's not worth a first. But I think a 5th is a severe undervalue of such a young player. I think he's worth a second or third like he was drafted right now so I think he's a good filler for the trade since he has a higher ceiling then Jones imo


            Maybe a 3rd round pick, but he hasn't proven anything more than that. He put up standard 20 YO CHL numbers.
            Dec 9, 2019 at 6:01
            #31
            Billy739
            Joined: Dec 2017
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            Quoting: csick
            Edmonton wont do that. Domi or Gallagher for Klefbom sure


            sure and while we're at it Monahan or Gaudreau for Petry

            Context Matters
            If Trouba only lands you a first and a middle 6 Centers expiring rights, in what world do lesser D get more in a market with more access to D in 2019-20 then the 2018-19 TDL?

            This statement makes no sense
            Dec 9, 2019 at 6:20
            #32
            Billy739
            Joined: Dec 2017
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            Quoting: oilnate
            There's alot of people who would disagree with that. I would say he's our best defensive prospect right behind Bouchard and Broberg. Almost every player struggles going from junior to pro. Poehling is in Laval right now and only has 7 points through 22 games. But he's developing. So is Samorukov, the problem is Samorukov doesn't get the minutes being stuck behind guys like Jones and Laggesson, then Manning when he gets sent down so he ends up fighting seasoned AHL veteran keegan lowe for minutes. He'll turn it around give him some time


            Poehling took a head shot and has been fighting back from Concussion issues so that's a pretty weak comparison that draw's away from your valid point . His first 12 games he put up 1 point before scoring 5 points in 7 games including a PPG and a SHG to get the Call up for KK first injury

            Samorukov and Brook both were Junior stars and top offensive D in their league with Brook being the better prospect slightly due to his Power Play consistency and Skating .Both are having a rough transition to the Pro life and have seen their value dip after a standout final year in junior had people talking about both as potential top 4 D in the next few years . Both D will be 23-24 at the earliest before there in a regular NHL role and that's ok for the teams but lowers their trade value as they become more of a longterm investment or gamble



            i think Lehkonen and Brook for Samorukov and Yammamoto works for both teams
            Lehkonen is a good hard working LW EDM could use that MTL can part with only because Armia does the same job overall outside Lehkonen's superior speed and back check it just makes more sense to keep the biggest Finn that's also from KK hometown .
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            Dec 9, 2019 at 7:26
            #33
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            Quoting: oilnate
            lol of course he does. I'll agree he's not worth a first. But I think a 5th is a severe undervalue of such a young player. I think he's worth a second or third like he was drafted right now so I think he's a good filler for the trade since he has a higher ceiling then Jones imo


            Dobber projects Samorukov as "a well-rounded second-pairing defender that can be relied on to play in all situations effectively."

            Looking at his first 20 pro games *only* to determine his value is ridiculously stupid.
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