Junior stats don't always translate to Pro.

At this point in his career, I wouldn't even pay a 5th round pick for him.

18th highest scoring player
6th Highest scoring defensemen

There's alot of people who would disagree with that. I would say he's our best defensive prospect right behind Bouchard and Broberg. Almost every player struggles going from junior to pro. Poehling is in Laval right now and only has 7 points through 22 games. But he's developing. So is Samorukov, the problem is Samorukov doesn't get the minutes being stuck behind guys like Jones and Laggesson, then Manning when he gets sent down so he ends up fighting seasoned AHL veteran keegan lowe for minutes. He'll turn it around give him some time

It's funny you mention that about Poehling.

He put up 3 points tonight on the 3rd line. Now he has 10 points in 23 games. I don't know who overvalued Samorukov, and he might be a decent prospect, but he definitely isn't worth a 1st as buddy claimed.

lol of course he does. I'll agree he's not worth a first. But I think a 5th is a severe undervalue of such a young player. I think he's worth a second or third like he was drafted right now so I think he's a good filler for the trade since he has a higher ceiling then Jones imo

Maybe a 3rd round pick, but he hasn't proven anything more than that. He put up standard 20 YO CHL numbers.

sure and while we're at it Monahan or Gaudreau for Petry

Context Matters
If Trouba only lands you a first and a middle 6 Centers expiring rights, in what world do lesser D get more in a market with more access to D in 2019-20 then the 2018-19 TDL?

This statement makes no sense

Poehling took a head shot and has been fighting back from Concussion issues so that's a pretty weak comparison that draw's away from your valid point . His first 12 games he put up 1 point before scoring 5 points in 7 games including a PPG and a SHG to get the Call up for KK first injury

Samorukov and Brook both were Junior stars and top offensive D in their league with Brook being the better prospect slightly due to his Power Play consistency and Skating .Both are having a rough transition to the Pro life and have seen their value dip after a standout final year in junior had people talking about both as potential top 4 D in the next few years . Both D will be 23-24 at the earliest before there in a regular NHL role and that's ok for the teams but lowers their trade value as they become more of a longterm investment or gamble



i think Lehkonen and Brook for Samorukov and Yammamoto works for both teams
Lehkonen is a good hard working LW EDM could use that MTL can part with only because Armia does the same job overall outside Lehkonen's superior speed and back check it just makes more sense to keep the biggest Finn that's also from KK hometown .

Dobber projects Samorukov as "a well-rounded second-pairing defender that can be relied on to play in all situations effectively."

Looking at his first 20 pro games *only* to determine his value is ridiculously stupid.