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Created by: Isles777
Team: 2019-20 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 4, 2019
Published: Dec. 4, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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NYI
  1. Tatar, Tomas
  2. 2020 4th round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Leddy, Nick
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (NYI)
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OTT
  1. Quenneville, David
  2. 2020 1st round pick (NYI)
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C
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G
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Dec. 4, 2019 at 11:53 a.m.
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Dec. 4, 2019 at 11:53 a.m.
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Good systems and good coaching eventually gets surpassed by better talent, once other teams have their players playing together for a couple of months...
Dec. 4, 2019 at 11:54 a.m.
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Pageau trade is an easy yes from NYI.

Tatar trade, not now because Leddy has been good this year. I think this is something we'd consider in the off-season, but not mid-season.
Dec. 4, 2019 at 11:55 a.m.
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Quoting: AJC13
Good systems and good coaching eventually gets surpassed by better talent, once other teams have their players playing together for a couple of months...


This is still a very good team, and not just the result of good coaching. The islanders play the last few games is because they don’t have a competent 3C, which doesn’t allow barry trotz to roll 4 lines (which is when they’re most effective)

These trades are just to make them into legit SC contenders
Dec. 4, 2019 at 12:06 p.m.
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This is still a very good team, and not just the result of good coaching. The islanders play the last few games is because they don’t have a competent 3C, which doesn’t allow barry trotz to roll 4 lines (which is when they’re most effective)

These trades are just to make them into legit SC contenders


Casey Cizikas is not a competent centre? He scored 20 goals last season and is being payed over $3 million. Doubt he was signed for that price to be the 4th line centre. Is he proving to be more of a top 9 winger or is he not living up to his contract?
Dec. 4, 2019 at 12:09 p.m.
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Quoting: AJC13
Casey Cizikas is not a competent centre? He scored 20 goals last season and is being payed over $3 million. Doubt he was signed for that price to be the 4th line centre. Is he proving to be more of a top 9 winger or is he not living up to his contract?


Casey cizikas is great - he’s an energy guy and a great defensive center that can be matched against opposing teams top lines. 20 goals is not the norm for him. He was paid 3.35 to be the 4th line center; not ideal but he’s earned his contract

Leo komarov (who is awful) was on IR and the islanders called up Cole bardreau (who is a center). That’s when they were on that streak. Once komarov cake off of IR , bardreau was sent back down despite his solid play, basically to accommodate komarov. The isles have struggled since, and now bardreau is hurt.

Barry trotz gives his bottom 6 equal ice time
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Dec. 4, 2019 at 12:20 p.m.
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Ottawa is considering that trade.

Would you guys do Ho-Sang+1st instead? The RHD is nice if he can crack the show but I think id rather take a chance on the scoring winger.
Dec. 4, 2019 at 12:22 p.m.
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Ottawa is considering that trade.

Would you guys do Ho-Sang+1st instead? The RHD is nice if he can crack the show but I think id rather take a chance on the scoring winger.


Absolutely lol
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Dec. 5, 2019 at 7:52 a.m.
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Isles say No on both trades. Leddy is the old Leddy this year, but with added solid D now. He's on pace for his usual 40+ points and currently is a plus 6 (normally around 0 or slightly under for his career). If anything, the picks need to be flipped in the deal, Isles should not be adding the better pick along with Leddy for someone like Tatar.

As for the OTT trade, I don't mind going after JGP for the 3C spot, but I would absolutely NOT give up a 1st rounder for him, especially given he would only be a rental here (Isles have Koivula penciled in that 3C spot next year for sure). I realize JGP is playing really well right now, but his career numbers says this year is a bit of a fluke, not giving up a 1st for that when the first can be used to get someone better (probably.)

Lastly, Komarov is NOT the reason the Isles are struggling after their incredible run. They are struggling because Trotz broke up the Lee-Barzal-Bailey line to put Eberle back on the 1RW (which coincidentally coincided with Komarov's return as well). That line was firing on cylinders during the hot streak, and funny enough once Trotz put them back together and put Eberle in the 3RW spot they Isles played better. It's been proven with advanced stats that Bailey makes Lee better, so it's no coincidence that when Bailey was taken off that line, Lee went into his drought and once Bailey was put back there he started scoring again.

The lines should be...

Lee-Barzal-Bailey
Beau-Nelson-Brassard
dal Colle/Komarov-Koivula-Eberle
Martin-Cizikas-Clutterbuck

Actually, I'd really like to see them switch Cizikas and Koivula till the kid gets his feet wet, but I know they won't break up that 4th line.
 
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