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Hall trades yes or no

Created by: MadLin27
Team: 2019-20 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 4, 2019
Published: Dec. 4, 2019
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Bunch of different ideas. Some are big, some are smaller packages. These are rental trades only
Trades
1.
NJD
  1. Bean, Jake
  2. van Riemsdyk, Trevor
  3. 2020 1st round pick (CAR)
  4. 2020 3rd round pick (BUF)
CAR
  1. Hall, Taylor ($3,000,000 retained)
2.
NJD
  1. Timmins, Conor
  2. 2020 1st round pick (COL)
COL
    Taylor Hall
    3.
    NJD
    1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Reserve List]
    2. 2020 1st round pick (EDM)
    EDM
      Taylor Hall
      4.
      NJD
      1. Dobson, Noah
      2. 2020 2nd round pick (NYI)
      3. 2021 3rd round pick (NYI)
      Additional Details:
      2020 2nd rounder becomes 1st if NYI make Stanley cup finals and Taylor Hall plays at least 50% of playoff games
      NYI
        Taylor Hall
        5.
        NJD
        1. Steen, Alexander ($1,750,000 retained)
        2. Walman, Jake
        3. 2020 1st round pick (STL)
        4. 2020 3rd round pick (STL)
        5. 2021 1st round pick (STL)
        STL
          Taylor Hall
          6.
          NJD
          1. Välimäki, Juuso
          2. 2020 2nd round pick (CGY)
          3. 2021 3rd round pick (CGY)
          Additional Details:
          2020 2nd round pick becomes a 1st if CAL makes it past 1st round
          CGY
            Taylor Hall
            7.
            NJD
            1. 2020 1st round pick (PIT)
            2. 2021 2nd round pick (PIT)
            PIT
              Taylor Hall
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              Dec. 4, 2019 at 1:18 p.m.
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              Undervaluing pretty across the board relative to history.
              Dec. 4, 2019 at 1:23 p.m.
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              Going to need more to get the Colorado deal. Add Bellows and Ho sang to the Islanders deal. Zero chance he resigns in Edmonton. Take out a first and add Jake Allen to the blues deal. Do Bennett and Brodie instead of Valimaki. Penguins are going to need to dump some of their problems like Galchenyuk and maybe DeSmith.
              Dec. 4, 2019 at 1:25 p.m.
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              would rather package a first with a lesser prospect from isles, if possible. my proposal is Wilde, ho-sang, a first and a conditional first
              Dec. 4, 2019 at 1:26 p.m.
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              If a first and a second from Pitt get it done I would rather offer that than Dobson a 2 and a 3.
              Dec. 4, 2019 at 1:27 p.m.
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              No from the isles
              Dec. 4, 2019 at 1:30 p.m.
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              Yeah it’s a no from the isles, Dobson=untouchable unless it’s for another untouchable player
              Dec. 4, 2019 at 2:57 p.m.
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              Quoting: Sagecoll
              Undervaluing pretty across the board relative to history.


              You think so? I thought those were pretty adequate offers for a rental. This is strictly for a rental, not a sign and trade.
              Dec. 4, 2019 at 2:58 p.m.
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              Quoting: puckhead6130
              Going to need more to get the Colorado deal. Add Bellows and Ho sang to the Islanders deal. Zero chance he resigns in Edmonton. Take out a first and add Jake Allen to the blues deal. Do Bennett and Brodie instead of Valimaki. Penguins are going to need to dump some of their problems like Galchenyuk and maybe DeSmith.


              Thats why I specifically said these trades are for rentals only.
              Dec. 4, 2019 at 3:06 p.m.
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              Quoting: MadLin27
              You think so? I thought those were pretty adequate offers for a rental. This is strictly for a rental, not a sign and trade.


              I mean...he's worth more than Duchene which is 1st + conditional 1st + top 100 prospect + top 150 prospect

              He's worth more than Nash which is 1st + recent 2nd rounder + 40 point cost controlled middle 6 player.

              That would mean 1st + cond 1st + Top 80 prospect...

              From Colorado that's 1st + cond 1st + Kaut +
              From Carolina that's 1st + cond 1st + Suzuki +
              From St. Louis that's 1st + cond 1st + Kostin +
              From Pitt that's 1st + cond 1st + Addison +
              From Isles that's 1st + cond 1st + Wilde +
              From Edmonton that's 1st + cond 1st + Benson +
              From Calgary that's 1st + cond 1st + Valimaki +
              Dec. 4, 2019 at 4:21 p.m.
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              Quoting: Sagecoll
              I mean...he's worth more than Duchene which is 1st + conditional 1st + top 100 prospect + top 150 prospect

              He's worth more than Nash which is 1st + recent 2nd rounder + 40 point cost controlled middle 6 player.

              That would mean 1st + cond 1st + Top 80 prospect...

              From Colorado that's 1st + cond 1st + Kaut +
              From Carolina that's 1st + cond 1st + Suzuki +
              From St. Louis that's 1st + cond 1st + Kostin +
              From Pitt that's 1st + cond 1st + Addison +
              From Isles that's 1st + cond 1st + Wilde +
              From Edmonton that's 1st + cond 1st + Benson +
              From Calgary that's 1st + cond 1st + Valimaki +


              The conditional first for Duchene was based off whether he re-signed.
              So it was essentially Duchene for a 1st rounder, and two mid level prospects.

              Most of the trades I have are Hall for a 1st and a high end prospect + another pick (could also be a mid level prospect)

              So the trades Im proposing are pretty similar to what you are saying. Almost every trade is going to include a conditional pick contingent on Hall re-signing so I chose to simply leave that out.
              Dec. 5, 2019 at 12:32 a.m.
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              Quoting: MadLin27
              The conditional first for Duchene was based off whether he re-signed.
              So it was essentially Duchene for a 1st rounder, and two mid level prospects.

              Most of the trades I have are Hall for a 1st and a high end prospect + another pick (could also be a mid level prospect)

              So the trades Im proposing are pretty similar to what you are saying. Almost every trade is going to include a conditional pick contingent on Hall re-signing so I chose to simply leave that out.


              I'd think a conditional 1st is a pretty big deal. If you're saying that we should presume that every offer listed here ALSO includes a conditional 1st based on re-signing, then yeah you're in the ballpark.
               
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