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Created by: hunter4321
Team: 2019-20 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 4, 2019
Published: Dec. 4, 2019
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  1. Byram, Bowen
  2. Nieto, Matt
  3. 2020 1st round pick (COL)
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (COL)
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21 2nd upgrades to a first if Avs win cup in 2020 or 2021
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$81,500,000$75,959,761$0$3,745,000$5,540,239
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
UFA - 4
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 6
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$5,571,429$5,571,429
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
RW
UFA - 4
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$885,833$885,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C
RFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,450,000$3,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RD
UFA - 2
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 2
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$950,000$950,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$735,000$735,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Dec. 4, 2019 at 2:24 p.m.
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I would not be surprised if Colorado jumped on this trade.
Dec. 4, 2019 at 2:25 p.m.
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Avs won't give up Byram, especially not for a rental
Dec. 4, 2019 at 2:30 p.m.
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The question is not whether Byram is worth Hall or vice versa. That's debatable to the cows come home.

The real question is whether the Avs need to include Byram in a trade to get Hall. IMO they don't. The cost to get him will not be as astronomical as some are making it. He's a pending UFA and the Devils will not be able to sign him. NJ loses negotiating power by the day.

Don't mistake me with thinking he'll be for free.... NJ will still get a nice package. Just not a player like Byram+. Byram is arguably the best LHD prospect not playing in the NHL right now. Think Makar but on the left side.

Would anyone trade Makar right now for Hall? That answer should be no, regardless of how good Hall is.
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Dec. 4, 2019 at 2:42 p.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
The question is not whether Byram is worth Hall or vice versa. That's debatable to the cows come home.

The real question is whether the Avs need to include Byram in a trade to get Hall. IMO they don't. The cost to get him will not be as astronomical as some are making it. He's a pending UFA and the Devils will not be able to sign him. NJ loses negotiating power by the day.

Don't mistake me with thinking he'll be for free.... NJ will still get a nice package. Just not a player like Byram+. Byram is arguably the best LHD prospect not playing in the NHL right now. Think Makar but on the left side.

Would anyone trade Makar right now for Hall? That answer should be no, regardless of how good Hall is.


I think the Avs could do Timmins instead
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Dec. 4, 2019 at 3:26 p.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
The question is not whether Byram is worth Hall or vice versa. That's debatable to the cows come home.

The real question is whether the Avs need to include Byram in a trade to get Hall. IMO they don't. The cost to get him will not be as astronomical as some are making it. He's a pending UFA and the Devils will not be able to sign him. NJ loses negotiating power by the day.

Don't mistake me with thinking he'll be for free.... NJ will still get a nice package. Just not a player like Byram+. Byram is arguably the best LHD prospect not playing in the NHL right now. Think Makar but on the left side.

Would anyone trade Makar right now for Hall? That answer should be no, regardless of how good Hall is.


Hall/Byram would work I think for both Shero/Sakic (fans will ****, mostly Avs) In no way is that pkg for Hall correct! I like it but come on. Makar is untouchable and any Devs fan who says that is wrong and has not watched him play. My kid is in school at UMASS, he led that team to the finals. Solid kid too! Could have left when the coach who recruited him left, he stayed and was a main player on the team, that's not the way it usually happens.

I've said all over this board, I think Hall gets extended by whomever he is moved to. Just my opinion.

I'm wondering if Shero does not sign Sami Vats, would Sakic be interested in moving Zads also for Hall/Vats with +s? Both players could come with 50% cap retained (I know Colo has cash less attractive to them), both FA's this year. Zads probably is there exposed player in Seattle though.
Dec. 4, 2019 at 3:42 p.m.
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I’m generally shocked by the value people are willing to include in their ACGMs to get Hall. Truly shocked...
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Dec. 4, 2019 at 4:42 p.m.
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Dreaming... erik Karlsson got a 1st 2nd and a couple bottom tier players and he was considered the best dman in the league at the time...

Mark stone got a A level prospect and a 2nd, and hes an elite 2 way forward

Taylor hall was traded 1 for 1 for adam larsson.

But now that hall's older, hurt, and a rental hes worth an A+ level prospect, a bottom 6 penalty killer, and possibly 2 1sts??
Dec. 4, 2019 at 11:43 p.m.
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This is god awful, byram is not being moved
Dec. 4, 2019 at 11:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Smitty426
Hall/Byram would work I think for both Shero/Sakic (fans will ****, mostly Avs) In no way is that pkg for Hall correct! I like it but come on. Makar is untouchable and any Devs fan who says that is wrong and has not watched him play. My kid is in school at UMASS, he led that team to the finals. Solid kid too! Could have left when the coach who recruited him left, he stayed and was a main player on the team, that's not the way it usually happens.

I've said all over this board, I think Hall gets extended by whomever he is moved to. Just my opinion.

I'm wondering if Shero does not sign Sami Vats, would Sakic be interested in moving Zads also for Hall/Vats with +s? Both players could come with 50% cap retained (I know Colo has cash less attractive to them), both FA's this year. Zads probably is there exposed player in Seattle though.


You are not getting byram dream on,

And no one offered makar he’s saying trading byram is low trading makar at UMass

Also tsn said this morning they hall wants yo test ufa regardless so he’s going to screw over the devils in more value in a extension trade value

What duchene got at the deadline, that’s your trade value
Dec. 5, 2019 at 7:19 a.m.
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Quoting: coga16
You are not getting byram dream on,

And no one offered makar he’s saying trading byram is low trading makar at UMass

Also tsn said this morning they hall wants yo test ufa regardless so he’s going to screw over the devils in more value in a extension trade value

What duchene got at the deadline, that’s your trade value


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