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TRADE CECI END THE CAP SHENANIGANS

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Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 4, 2019
Published: Dec. 4, 2019
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spezza prob scratched on b2b, just a guess
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Dec. 4, 2019 at 2:49 p.m.
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Ceci at 4.5 just doesn't fit on most teams this year. Of the seven teams with 4.5M of projected cap space, four are rebuilding and have less than zero interest. You could hardly pay Columbus, LA, NJ, or Ottawa enough to take on 4.5M of cap space on a #4 defenseman. You could try to give him away to NYI, Colorado, or Montreal. Good luck with that. Winnipeg almost has room....

Winnipeg and Colorado have some injuries on defense, but they're in playoff position anyway, so no immediate need for an overpaid rental who keeps them from making a big trade deadline deal.

NYI fans are talking about trying to add Taylor Hall. If you had 5M of cap space and had to choose between a #4D and a recent MVP, which one do you get more excited about?

Your market for a giveaway is down to Montreal. They can see that. They're more interested in Gostisbehere. So trading Ceci to Montreal involves retaining and adding a prospect, or it involves taking back a retained Karl Alzner, and having to buy out half of his contract next summer if he doesn't pan out. Those are somewhat bad ideas for Toronto.

If you retained 50% and add Tymashov and a 2nd, you could send him lots of places, for lots of players. One possibility might be Washington for Nick Jensen, who is off to a slow start offensively, but is a more established defensive #4 than Ceci, and on a better contract.
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Dec. 4, 2019 at 3:03 p.m.
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Ceci at 4.5 just doesn't fit on most teams this year. Of the seven teams with 4.5M of projected cap space, four are rebuilding and have less than zero interest. You could hardly pay Columbus, LA, NJ, or Ottawa enough to take on 4.5M of cap space on a #4 defenseman. You could try to give him away to NYI, Colorado, or Montreal. Good luck with that. Winnipeg almost has room....

Winnipeg and Colorado have some injuries on defense, but they're in playoff position anyway, so no immediate need for an overpaid rental who keeps them from making a big trade deadline deal.

NYI fans are talking about trying to add Taylor Hall. If you had 5M of cap space and had to choose between a #4D and a recent MVP, which one do you get more excited about?

Your market for a giveaway is down to Montreal. They can see that. They're more interested in Gostisbehere. So trading Ceci to Montreal involves retaining and adding a prospect, or it involves taking back a retained Karl Alzner, and having to buy out half of his contract next summer if he doesn't pan out. Those are somewhat bad ideas for Toronto.

If you retained 50% and add Tymashov and a 2nd, you could send him lots of places, for lots of players. One possibility might be Washington for Nick Jensen, who is off to a slow start offensively, but is a more established defensive #4 than Ceci, and on a better contract.


You should talk about this in a acgm
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Dec. 4, 2019 at 5:40 p.m.
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Ceci at 4.5 just doesn't fit on most teams this year. Of the seven teams with 4.5M of projected cap space, four are rebuilding and have less than zero interest. You could hardly pay Columbus, LA, NJ, or Ottawa enough to take on 4.5M of cap space on a #4 defenseman. You could try to give him away to NYI, Colorado, or Montreal. Good luck with that. Winnipeg almost has room....

Winnipeg and Colorado have some injuries on defense, but they're in playoff position anyway, so no immediate need for an overpaid rental who keeps them from making a big trade deadline deal.

NYI fans are talking about trying to add Taylor Hall. If you had 5M of cap space and had to choose between a #4D and a recent MVP, which one do you get more excited about?

Your market for a giveaway is down to Montreal. They can see that. They're more interested in Gostisbehere. So trading Ceci to Montreal involves retaining and adding a prospect, or it involves taking back a retained Karl Alzner, and having to buy out half of his contract next summer if he doesn't pan out. Those are somewhat bad ideas for Toronto.

If you retained 50% and add Tymashov and a 2nd, you could send him lots of places, for lots of players. One possibility might be Washington for Nick Jensen, who is off to a slow start offensively, but is a more established defensive #4 than Ceci, and on a better contract.


A trade with MTL could involve Kinkaid and Ceci but while Kinkaid would fill a need in Toronto, Ceci wouldn't make the line up because Julien will prefer playing the rookie Fleury (who's been good) on a 3rd pair. Therefore, I don't see MTL doing this because it helps a rival without benefits

That being said, I would like to see Bergevin use his ****ing cap space. That pisses me off. Molson is rich as hell but we're still sitting on a 7m. He doesn't have to trade future assets, but simply pick up bad contracts with propects or picks. Maybe he has a plan, but he must do something before TDL with this money
Dec. 6, 2019 at 9:33 a.m.
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Ceci at 4.5 just doesn't fit on most teams this year. Of the seven teams with 4.5M of projected cap space, four are rebuilding and have less than zero interest. You could hardly pay Columbus, LA, NJ, or Ottawa enough to take on 4.5M of cap space on a #4 defenseman. You could try to give him away to NYI, Colorado, or Montreal. Good luck with that. Winnipeg almost has room....

Winnipeg and Colorado have some injuries on defense, but they're in playoff position anyway, so no immediate need for an overpaid rental who keeps them from making a big trade deadline deal.

NYI fans are talking about trying to add Taylor Hall. If you had 5M of cap space and had to choose between a #4D and a recent MVP, which one do you get more excited about?

Your market for a giveaway is down to Montreal. They can see that. They're more interested in Gostisbehere. So trading Ceci to Montreal involves retaining and adding a prospect, or it involves taking back a retained Karl Alzner, and having to buy out half of his contract next summer if he doesn't pan out. Those are somewhat bad ideas for Toronto.

If you retained 50% and add Tymashov and a 2nd, you could send him lots of places, for lots of players. One possibility might be Washington for Nick Jensen, who is off to a slow start offensively, but is a more established defensive #4 than Ceci, and on a better contract.


ceci retained with a 2nd and even a low player is pretty ridiculous, and how would trying to send him to the isles, aves, or montreal make any sense?????? the kings are tanking and have space. im sure they'd rather have a regular NHL guy play then someone in the minors to just eat minues. the aves are gonna be insanely in on hall and isles will try to make a move i assume. Im not sure what the habs will do with injuries but i doubt they would go for him either. columbus most likely not because their right side is fine. pretty dumb of you to suggest Isles aves habs over LA. you just sound like a bitter habs fan, keep catchin those L's boooooo
Dec. 6, 2019 at 10:13 a.m.
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ceci retained with a 2nd and even a low player is pretty ridiculous, and how would trying to send him to the isles, aves, or montreal make any sense?????? the kings are tanking and have space. im sure they'd rather have a regular NHL guy play then someone in the minors to just eat minues. the aves are gonna be insanely in on hall and isles will try to make a move i assume. Im not sure what the habs will do with injuries but i doubt they would go for him either. columbus most likely not because their right side is fine. pretty dumb of you to suggest Isles aves habs over LA. you just sound like a bitter habs fan, keep catchin those L's boooooo


A) We're talking about different trade dates now. My comment responded to your initial post which sounded more like you were shouting to trade him right now, when most teams have no cap space. It sound like you're moving your own goalpost to the trade deadline. Can you help me understand what you're saying?

B) LA could win two or three more games this year with Ceci, before he tests UFA to see how small of a pay cut he can get away with. Two extra wins won't get LA to the playoffs but it might totally keep them from winning the draft lottery. You literally couldn't give them enough to make such a meaningless short term improvement and lose out on Lafreniere, let alone to give you cap space for free. Ceci and Matthews to LA? Sign them up. Ceci and NYlander? No big deal. Help yourselves to Doughty, with little things around the edges to balance value. Ceci to LA for free? Not this season.
Dec. 6, 2019 at 4:35 p.m.
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A) We're talking about different trade dates now. My comment responded to your initial post which sounded more like you were shouting to trade him right now, when most teams have no cap space. It sound like you're moving your own goalpost to the trade deadline. Can you help me understand what you're saying?

B) LA could win two or three more games this year with Ceci, before he tests UFA to see how small of a pay cut he can get away with. Two extra wins won't get LA to the playoffs but it might totally keep them from winning the draft lottery. You literally couldn't give them enough to make such a meaningless short term improvement and lose out on Lafreniere, let alone to give you cap space for free. Ceci and Matthews to LA? Sign them up. Ceci and NYlander? No big deal. Help yourselves to Doughty, with little things around the edges to balance value. Ceci to LA for free? Not this season.


he doesnt need to be moved right now because Johnsson is out for minimum of a week and they can be able to get by with 23 on the roster. even if you trade him now opposed to feb. or deadline, i still dont think it costs that much. it looks like wings are rolling full steam ahead to lafreniere but yeah LA is definitely trying to as well. i feel as though some team might bite on him in a larger trade and then flip him at a retained value to a bubble team with weak defense, such as the jets (like the ian cole trade where he got flipped). idk just ideas
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