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Huge NYR idea

Created by: Jambo
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 5, 2019
Published: Dec. 5, 2019
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Trades
NYR
  1. Nylander, William
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (TOR)
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (TOR)
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Nylander for Deangelo and the Leaf Killer. Picks for a half season with Kreider
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,277,277$0$202,500$1,222,723
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$11,634,000$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$10,893,000$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 6
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 4
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$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$694,444$694,444 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
LW
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Rangers
$925,000$925,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$792,500$792,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
G
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1

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Dec. 5, 2019 at 12:43 p.m.
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GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Leafs are not trading Nylander and I dont know how many times should I repeat that.
Dec. 5, 2019 at 12:45 p.m.
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I'd say add a conditional 2021 1st on resigning Kreider or reaching the cup and it's a deal.
Dec. 5, 2019 at 12:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Sagecoll
I'd say add a conditional 2021 1st on resigning Kreider or reaching the cup and it's a deal.


value swing is very bad that way, unless you mean the 2021 2nd becomes a 1st if kreider re-signs or toronto makes cup finals.
Dec. 5, 2019 at 12:48 p.m.
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Leafs are not trading Nylander and I dont know how many times should I repeat that.


I just know bc of cap something would have to go. back to NY. maybe its Ceci but then prob have to add picks too cuz NY doesn't want or need him. I just think those are 3 pieces that all would be great for Leafs to have
Dec. 5, 2019 at 12:50 p.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Leafs are not trading Nylander and I dont know how many times should I repeat that.


Dang. When did you get your job in the maple leafs front office?

You can say it as many times as you would like, but I don’t think anyone should listen to you. You can say that you don’t think the leafs will trade nylander. Maybe some people will disagree? Isn’t that kind of the point of this website?
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Dec. 5, 2019 at 12:50 p.m.
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Leafs are not trading Nylander and I dont know how many times should I repeat that.


Like no kidding! STOP TRADING NYLANDER!!!! He's very good at hockey and it's nice to have players that are very good.

Kreider doesn't add a ton of value to our team TBH. I'm not sure he's a better player than Zach Hyman.
Dec. 5, 2019 at 12:53 p.m.
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Rags not trading De Angelo
Dec. 5, 2019 at 12:53 p.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Leafs are not trading Nylander and I dont know how many times should I repeat that.


Everyone's tradeable - Gretz, Jagr, Hull, Messier etc...
No secret the Leafs have too many skilled forwards and need help on the defensive/goal side as Jambo posts.
Dec. 5, 2019 at 12:59 p.m.
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Quoting: grok
value swing is very bad that way, unless you mean the 2021 2nd becomes a 1st if kreider re-signs or toronto makes cup finals.


Wait how?

Georgiev = 2 2nds
Kreider = 1st + SDA or Robertson
Deangelo = Roughly Nylander...

This is kinda low on value tbh. But I don't think it makes sense.

Probably better to just make a deal for Deangelo. Georgiev doesn't make sense unless he's going to be your starter (like you paid for Andersen), and Kreider is kinda unnecessary on Toronto....
Dec. 5, 2019 at 1:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Jambo
I just know bc of cap something would have to go. back to NY. maybe its Ceci but then prob have to add picks too cuz NY doesn't want or need him. I just think those are 3 pieces that all would be great for Leafs to have


But they are not trading Nylander for them. Nylander is great young player. No. Just no.. that would need to be KAndre Miller + Shestyorkin/Georgiev and 2022 1st (conditional based on Nylander scoring and pick protection) + Buchnevich or something like that in terms of value.. thats how valuable Nylander is to Toronto.

Quoting: Bcarlo25
Dang. When did you get your job in the maple leafs front office?

You can say it as many times as you would like, but I don’t think anyone should listen to you. You can say that you don’t think the leafs will trade nylander. Maybe some people will disagree? Isn’t that kind of the point of this website?


It is, indeed. Im just saying that it should be pretty clear that statements from Shanny, Dubas (two of most important people in organisation) regarding Nylander mean that he is not getting traded. And if he is, it would need to be a massive overpayment. Tons of potential in that player.

Quoting: newballcoach
Like no kidding! STOP TRADING NYLANDER!!!! He's very good at hockey and it's nice to have players that are very good.

Kreider doesn't add a ton of value to our team TBH. I'm not sure he's a better player than Zach Hyman.


Kreider is miles better than Hyman. He would have great effect on Leafs team.

Quoting: McGruff
Everyone's tradeable - Gretz, Jagr, Hull, Messier etc...
No secret the Leafs have too many skilled forwards and need help on the defensive/goal side as Jambo posts.


they are pretty clear in not wanting to trade Nylander. If they would, other team would need to massively overpay.
Dec. 5, 2019 at 1:20 p.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
But they are not trading Nylander for them. Nylander is great young player. No. Just no.. that would need to be KAndre Miller + Shestyorkin/Georgiev and 2022 1st (conditional based on Nylander scoring and pick protection) + Buchnevich or something like that in terms of value.. thats how valuable Nylander is to Toronto.



It is, indeed. Im just saying that it should be pretty clear that statements from Shanny, Dubas (two of most important people in organisation) regarding Nylander mean that he is not getting traded. And if he is, it would need to be a massive overpayment. Tons of potential in that player.



Kreider is miles better than Hyman. He would have great effect on Leafs team.



they are pretty clear in not wanting to trade Nylander. If they would, other team would need to massively overpay.


I remember peter chiarelli saying, “we’re not trading Kessel.”
Dec. 5, 2019 at 1:22 p.m.
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I remember peter chiarelli saying, “we’re not trading Kessel.”


Dubas is not Chiarelli, my friend..
Dec. 5, 2019 at 1:22 p.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
But they are not trading Nylander for them. Nylander is great young player. No. Just no.. that would need to be KAndre Miller + Shestyorkin/Georgiev and 2022 1st (conditional based on Nylander scoring and pick protection) + Buchnevich or something like that in terms of value.. thats how valuable Nylander is to Toronto.


Ok well that is absurd. Literally 2 top 15 prospects in the league AND a likely top 10 draft pick for William Nylander AND Buch? check that. Buch for Nylander 1 for 1 MAYBE and Toronto wins that trade
Dec. 5, 2019 at 1:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Jambo


BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
Dec. 5, 2019 at 1:28 p.m.
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Ok well that is absurd. Literally 2 top 15 prospects in the league AND a likely top 10 draft pick for William Nylander AND Buch? check that. Buch for Nylander 1 for 1 MAYBE and Toronto wins that trade


Also.. I meant either Shestyorkin OR Georgiev + 1st not either of them and 1st.. read that statement again.
Dec. 5, 2019 at 1:41 p.m.
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Kreider will end up being older and more expensive than Nylander in the long run. It also sounds like Rangers fans are set on keeping Deangelo or selling high, and he's not a player the Leafs should be pursuing with Rielly and Barrie currently on the team.
Dec. 5, 2019 at 1:46 p.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Also.. I meant either Shestyorkin OR Georgiev + 1st not either of them and 1st.. read that statement again.[/quo

write it better. and still overpriced for him IMO
Dec. 5, 2019 at 1:48 p.m.
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read it better..
Dec. 5, 2019 at 1:55 p.m.
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I'd say add a conditional 2021 1st on resigning Kreider or reaching the cup and it's a deal.


I would say go to hell... leafs aren’t trading nylander.
Dec. 5, 2019 at 1:57 p.m.
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I would say go to hell... leafs aren’t trading nylander.


lol wasn't my idea.
Dec. 5, 2019 at 2:09 p.m.
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Dubas is not Chiarelli, my friend..


You’re right. Chiarelli built a team that won a cup. Do you see the point though? GMs say things, and then do things that directly refute what they say. All the freaking time.
Dec. 5, 2019 at 2:18 p.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
read it better..


you said +/and multiple times so just mean what you say its all good
 
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