No thank you.

Best wishes,

Sabres Fans

No, Sabres arent doing the work for you and have 0 reason to extend him. Galchenyuk and ZAR works though

It makes no sense for Buffalo, we should not return the defender in the trade of the defender, we need help in forward.

How about Galchenyuk and a third rounder in 2021.

why should the penguins pay almost 4 million for a 3rd pairing defenseman?

Sure

That's fair. Though, Miller was very good with Vegas and Marino being on an ELC gives them a bit more flexibility. It's also worth noting that they are currently spending $5.5 million on their third best RHD so ~4 million would actually be an upgrade. I'd rather have Miller than Ruhwedel or Trotman next year. Addison is not ready.

That's because they never knew they would automagically land Marino.
That Schultz contract was signed years ago. And it's not one they are going to renew. Marino gets paid after next season. The cap space has to be there for that. They aren't going to fork over almost 4 million on a guy who's going to play like 13 minutes a night. It's just not going to happen.

If you can't afford the guy once Marino needs his new contract, so be it. You can just move him fairly easily. He's a good player and there would only be one year left.

Also, Kris Letang isn't going to be healthy for 82 games. He just isn't. Having a solid player back there would be good. He would also be playing more that 13 minutes.

That's 3 million going away from actually making this team competitive by going after an impact winger this offseason.
It is what it is. No way should they spend 4 million on a 3rd pairing guy.

So no market-value RD with an easily moveable contract. But a massive contract to a ~30-ish year old winger. You know the type of contract that never works out unless you are getting a legitimate Panarin-level star? Ok.

I didn't say it had to be a massive contract for a 30ish guy.
There are guys who can be had at reasonable prices and term.
There are every year. FA is what it is.
But one of their issues in cap space this year is they are burdened down with cap spending in the wrong areas.
But if they could spend that cap bringing in a guy like Krieder at a reasonable cost and term I think that goes a long way.

"reasonable prices and term." "impact winger "

Pick one. Guys get to free agency at older ages and get overpaid, largely. You think Krieder will come at a reasonable price? Did you see what Kevin Hayes got for producing around the same each year? 7+ million a year.

"cap spending in the wrong areas."

And I would argue that overpaying for a forward in free agency that isn't a legitimate star player would be an example of that. At wing, they would brobably better off going in with what they have. Give a bigger role to a guy like Kahun and see what he can do with Malkin or Crosby. Then make a trade if you need to. The team has a good group of wingers already. Guentzel, Rust, Kahun, Tanev, Hornqvist (when healthy), Simon, ZAR, Lafferty. The way to upgrade that group this offseason is to add a star player (which is almost impossible). Otherwise, it's a lateral move and you aren't doing anything but spending cap space.

there aren't any legitimate "star" wingers available next year. I think you are looking at guys who are lower tiered and because of that get less.
I don't think Krieder gets Hayes money but that's a different story.
Hayes is a center they get more.

Either way they need to do better on the wing. They can't keep rolling with Simon who can't score, no way they resign Chucky even if he turns it around, and Hornqvist is always injured.
They will need a guy on the wing who can fly and shoot.
They could try to rehab a Vesey on a relatively team friendly deal. Something of that nature. A guy who would fit in better and improve the forward group.
Or Dadonov or Hoffman to a reasonable deal. At 30+ they probably aren't expecting to get 7 year deals.
But they would give real help on the wing.

Not that the team won't look for defense this offseason they will. But they aren't going to pay 4 million out on it. It just doesn't make sense to do that.

Yeah, Kreider gets a bit less that Hayes. But you get the point. People way overpay in free agency.

Vesey is my point about a lateral move. This does nothing to help the team or improve. A player like Simon is flawed but does basically everything better than Vesey (besides shooting) and helps your team get scored on a lot less,. With Vesey, you get a few more goals and less of everything else. Doesn't help the team.

Dadonov or Hoffman will get paid.... a lot. And it happens every year for people at that age even when everyone recognizes that it's not a good idea.

Also worth pointing out that good RHD hardly hit free agency.

I'm not saying people don't get over paid in FA they do. But they can find help.
I think Vesey is a guy who comes in and plays well if they can get him. He's big, fast, physical. He's the type of guy that could come in and have a Tanev like impact.
It would be good for the team.
It is what it is. This team shouldn't be paying top 4 defenseman money for a bottom pairing guy. That was the knock on Gudbranson everyone wanted to get rid of. I don't see how this is much different.
You can find a decent 3rd pairing guy in FA at a decent cost. 2 million range. They are out there. You just can't be last to sign your guy because then you get the scraps
I honestly think they raid the NCAA this year, there are a few good Defensemen in the NCAA who will be FA. They also have Addison coming in next year and will have to decide what to do with Almari and POJ in WBS, both have played fairly well. It's not like they don't have options about what happens on the blue line they do. It's just not the right cap move to do this.