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Team: 2019-20 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 5, 2019
Published: Dec. 5, 2019
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just what the actual ****
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2020
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23$81,500,000$79,698,331$0$1,362,500$1,801,669
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Dec. 5, 2019 at 9:48 p.m.
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Yeah what another stellar performance by the soon to be paid 9.5 million goaltender!! He may be under .900 now or very close if not. Also very glad to see that new, more defensively responsible system paying off right gum chewer?? This is what happens when you sacrifice solid to good defensive dmen who also pk well(Stralman mainly, but also Girardi) for more offensive or worse dmen now in your top 6(Shattenkirk, Rutta and Schenn).
Dec. 5, 2019 at 10:16 p.m.
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What in tarnation
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Think Brisebois need to make some moves...they need a shake up.
Dec. 5, 2019 at 10:39 p.m.
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BOLT LOVER
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Same ole same ole .. Vaz bad .. Cooper sucks .. Stamkos and Johnson minus 3 apiece .. they CANT play tight Zone D .. Johnson is unplayable.. Gourde and Joseph only 10 mins ice time .. 10 too many .. same ole same ole

We are at point of season where something HAS to be done.. next week Tampa plays Florida Boston Caps and Islanders .. dont stand a chance ..
Only good outcome is Cooper will be fired before Xmas .. If not no playoffs and team blows up
Dec. 6, 2019 at 1:56 a.m.
#4
Go Boltz! & Go Avs!
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Edited Dec. 6, 2019 at 2:05 a.m.
Quoting: BOLTLOVER1
If not no playoffs


Dude, The Atlantic is the weakest division by far, we are still locked for top2-3 = 100% playoffs. Nothing changed... Boston-Toronto-Tampa top3 & probably - Florida 4th...but probably they don't make it so 5 from metro 3 from atl...
We are just bad, but other teams are similar/worse. Yes it sucks to see our team play like this after a 62 win season, but if we win 1 game in playoffs, we made some progress amirite? grimace
Or who are we kidding right now about going deep in playoffs with zero defense... Yes you are right it's boring, so we need to get Toffoli or strenghten our D-core.
Schenn= AHL level
Rutta = KHL level
Coburn = retirement level(new girardi)
Shattekirk(buyout quality player proved by NYR) - this is the sad truth - yes he has 1 million points, but it doesn't help us at all... i rather have him 0 points and allow 0.5 goal/game less ... ( i would never play him top pair D - ever again, i thought Hedman can carry anyone, but not him... he is too offensive minded...)
McDavid,Ovechkin,Marchand eats Shatty's for breakfast... he just can't defend... and get pushed... = not what we need = yes for this caphit he is alright so he can stay but it's not gonna end well in the playoffs...

As you can see this is just lot worse than a lot of NHL teams D-core, and our forwards doesn't help them out like ever(except sometimes Point or Cirelli coming back),
and new this year = our 10 million goalie = huge down season... and i expected from him 2.3GAA... 0.930 SV%... that's just not happening...

But overall these last games are not that bad as the first St Louis or the Carolina first game in season...
These teams plays very similar style of hockey and we always have problems vs them:
St. Louis Blues
Dallas Stars
Nashville Predators
Minnesota Wild
Arizona Coyotes
Calgary Flames

Lately Washington Capitals started to play similar = Stanley cup
And New York Islanders because of Barry "best coach in current NHL" Trotz

Interesting that this year 2 new teams started to play same style: Edmonton Oilers and Winnipeg Jets, so don't expect too much points vs these teams, unless we get lucky...

You can say Anaheim too , but they are pure garbage lately so we can beat them, same as LA...

So this loss is always expected until we have Jon Cooper as the coach, because he never changes tactics inbetween games. After the Minnesota game he said: we should win these games 2-1. What i saw on the ice: We attacked 24/7 as usual... Last year this playstyle earned us 62 wins, this year ~ 45... or less if we are unlucky...(or no trades)
It's pretty simple if you think about it: Other teams got better/changed tactics/learned from losses - and we just stalled/got worse = bad results vs these defensive teams...

Right now we are only top16 team in the league... 15 better teams existing... at least we are not bottom 10:
Always Look on the Bright Side of Life wink
We are playing next vs san jose so i expect a win... but we'll see...honestly at this point i just wanna see us allow 0 or 1 goal in any given night ... if we lose 0-1 so be it... 2 goals allowed is not good enough vs san jose...
i rather take a 0-1 loss then a 5-3 win... but still im not too worried until All-Star break... if we play like this at that point... then it becomes annoying...
Dec. 6, 2019 at 6:41 a.m.
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Some stupid defensive mistakes cost us last night. Also Vasy is pretty average this year so far.
 
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