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Does this get Mantha

Initial Creation Date: Dec 7, 2019
Published: Dec 7, 2019 at 10:37
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Trades
MTL
  1. Mantha, Anthony
DET
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi
  2. Poehling, Ryan
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (CHI)
Buyouts
  • Steve Mason: $1,366,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Marco Scandella: $2,000,000 (50%)
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: $350,000 (50%)
Buried
  • Karl Alzner: $3,550,000 ($4,625,000)
  • Dale Weise: $1,275,000 ($2,350,000)
  • Keith Kinkaid: $675,000 ($1,750,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ANA
SJS
WPG
MTL
FLA
MTL
CHI
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
27$81,500,000$81,747,974$0$3,560,000-$247,974
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 4
MTL
Domi, Max
$3,150,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
$2,600,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
MTL
Weal, Jordan
$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
DET
Mantha, Anthony
$3,300,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Peca, Matthew
$1,300,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
MTL
Thompson, Nate
$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Juulsen, Noah
$863,333
RD
RFA - 1
MTL
Cousins, Nick
$1,000,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 3
MTL
Teasdale, Joël
$763,333
C
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 7
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Primeau, Cayden
$880,833
G
RFA - 3
MTL
Reilly, Mike
$1,500,000
LD
UFA - 2
MTL
Folin, Christian
$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
MTL
Leskinen, Otto
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
MTL
Fleury, Cale
$771,666
RD
RFA - 2
MTL
Mete, Victor
$748,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1

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Dec 7, 2019 at 10:39
#1
MisstheWhalers
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Very much doubt it.
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Dec 7, 2019 at 10:43
#2
arky
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Probably not. He is one of the core players for the rebuild.
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Dec 7, 2019 at 10:45
#3
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but he's 25 already! Poehling is much younger, less offensive upside for sure. But he can be a 2way Center. Plus a 2nd round in a deep draft.
Dec 7, 2019 at 10:47
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Easy no.
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Dec 7, 2019 at 10:48
#5
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That for sure doesn’t. Don’t think DET is moving Mantha anyway. Athanasiou on the other hand most likely will be available.
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Dec 7, 2019 at 11:03
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Quoting: Jaycee
That for sure doesn’t. Don’t think DET is moving Mantha anyway. Athanasiou on the other hand most likely will be available.


Athanasiou is same age as Mantha. Det won't even make the playoffs for another 2 years.
Plus Mantha is up for RFA this year and that won't be easy considering Mantha has played a total of ZERO playoff games.
You guys are all out to lunch
Dec 7, 2019 at 11:09
#7
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Quoting: ithinkimrational
but he's 25 already! Poehling is much younger, less offensive upside for sure. But he can be a 2way Center. Plus a 2nd round in a deep draft.


Mantha (.92) has the same amount of points as Danault (.77) and Gallagher (.77) and he has been on IR for a week. (ppg)
Dec 7, 2019 at 11:19
#8
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lol what the **** is this
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Dec 8, 2019 at 8:16
#9
arky
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Quoting: ithinkimrational
Athanasiou is same age as Mantha. Det won't even make the playoffs for another 2 years.
Plus Mantha is up for RFA this year and that won't be easy considering Mantha has played a total of ZERO playoff games.
You guys are all out to lunch


Out to lunch? Why because you want Mantha and can not see that Wings fans and others did not think this is not a good trade.

You are right, Mantha is a a RFA, meaning Wings hold all the cards, yes he can go to arbitration, but I doubt Yzerman allows that to happen. Wings have no cap issues and can pay big money if that is what Mantha asks for. Lastly tell me why Mantha would want to goto Montreal? They are in better shape player wise than Detroit, but MB has not proved he can build a winner, where as Yzerman has proved he can in Tampa Bay. You make it sound like you are doing us a favor by taking him off our hands.

Lastly you say we are getting a 2nd in a draft, yes but if we are going to rebuild you can not keep trading building blocks for picks. You have to draw a line in the sand, pick the guys you are going to build around and start the rebuild. Mantha, Larkinn Bertuzzi, Hronek and maybe Cholowski are those blocks. If you trade on or any of them you keep the rebuild stagnant and you will be in a loop of rebuilding for years.

Could Mantha leave but I have heard nothing that he wants to leave or that he does not want to play hear so 'Out to lunch' No more like you are out to lunch.
Dec 8, 2019 at 8:57
#10
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I don't think the value is there, but Montreal has no interest in doing a trade like this anyways
Dec 8, 2019 at 9:25
#11
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Hell No? Mantha isn't available and those pieces don't get him. MB wouldn't surrender the pieces that Yzerman would want for Mantha.
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Dec 8, 2019 at 9:32
#12
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Hell No? Mantha isn't available and those pieces don't get him. MB wouldn't surrender the pieces that Yzerman would want for Mantha.


I've try way more didn't work . Maybe something around Mantha vs Domi ++ ,
Dec 8, 2019 at 9:39
#13
MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: mikearky
Out to lunch? Why because you want Mantha and can not see that Wings fans and others did not think this is not a good trade.

You are right, Mantha is a a RFA, meaning Wings hold all the cards, yes he can go to arbitration, but I doubt Yzerman allows that to happen. Wings have no cap issues and can pay big money if that is what Mantha asks for. Lastly tell me why Mantha would want to goto Montreal? They are in better shape player wise than Detroit, but MB has not proved he can build a winner, where as Yzerman has proved he can in Tampa Bay. You make it sound like you are doing us a favor by taking him off our hands.

Lastly you say we are getting a 2nd in a draft, yes but if we are going to rebuild you can not keep trading building blocks for picks. You have to draw a line in the sand, pick the guys you are going to build around and start the rebuild. Mantha, Larkinn Bertuzzi, Hronek and maybe Cholowski are those blocks. If you trade on or any of them you keep the rebuild stagnant and you will be in a loop of rebuilding for years.

Could Mantha leave but I have heard nothing that he wants to leave or that he does not want to play hear so 'Out to lunch' No more like you are out to lunch.


Your comment about trading building blocks for picks is so very true, this idea of a never ending rebuild or not making a move cause a team is in a rebuild makes no sense to me. At some point a team has to build around a core and begin to exit a rebuild otherwise they'll end up being stagnated in mediocrity forever.

Imo Yzerman needs to try and improve the Wings a fair bit over the summer and there needs to be a step towards a marked improvement next season. Would be nice if the Wings could snag the 1st overall pick this summer.
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