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Created by: csick
Initial Creation Date: Dec 9, 2019
Published: Dec 9, 2019 at 10:09 am
Team: 2019-20 Carolina Hurricanes
Trades
CAR
  1. Athanasiou, Andreas
DET
  1. Gauthier, Julien
  2. McKeown, Roland
  3. 2020 1st round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. McGinn, Brock
Buyouts
  • Patrick Marleau: $6,250,000
  • Alexander Semin: $2,333,333
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Justin Faulk: $683,333 (14%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TOR
CAR
CAR
BUF
NYR
EDM
CAR
CAR
TOR
2021
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
STL
2022
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$81,347,333$0$3,207,500$152,667
Left WingCenterRight Wing
DET
Athanasiou, Andreas
$3,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
CAR
Aho, Sebastian
$8,454,000
C, LW
UFA - 5
CAR
Niederreiter, Nino
$5,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
CAR
Svechnikov, Andrei
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
CAR
Staal, Jordan
$6,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
CAR
Teräväinen, Teuvo
$5,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
CAR
Dzingel, Ryan
$3,375,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
CAR
Haula, Erik
$2,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
CAR
Necas, Martin
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 3
CAR
Foegele, Warren
$746,667
LW
RFA - 1
CAR
Wallmark, Lucas
$675,000
C
RFA - 1
CAR
Martinook, Jordan
$2,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CAR
Slavin, Jaccob
$5,300,000
LD
UFA - 6
CAR
Hamilton, Dougie
$5,750,000
RD
UFA - 2
CAR
Reimer, James
$3,400,000
G
UFA - 2
CAR
Gardiner, Jake
$4,050,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
CAR
Pesce, Brett
$4,025,000
RD
UFA - 5
CAR
Mrázek, Petr
$3,125,000
G
UFA - 2
CAR
Edmundson, Joel
$3,100,000
LD
UFA - 1
CAR
van Riemsdyk, Trevor
$2,300,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
CAR
Fleury, Haydn
$850,000
LD
RFA - 1
CAR
Smallman, Spencer
$741,667
RW
RFA - 1

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Dec 9, 2019 at 10:15
#1
STH
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 330
Likes: 76
Why on earth would the Canes do this? I just don't see how a -33 player is worth a former 1st rounder playing pretty well in the AHL, a 1st round pick and a good AHL veteran D (who is also the captain of the AHL team).
Dec 9, 2019 at 10:19
#2
Thread Starter
KFTW
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 11,339
Likes: 3,226
Quoting: Rcsherwo
Why on earth would the Canes do this? I just don't see how a -33 player is worth a former 1st rounder playing pretty well in the AHL, a 1st round pick and a good AHL veteran D (who is also the captain of the AHL team).


So youre saying a player is bad based on +/- while playing for a team that's horribly constructed? That's not his fault. Hes still a speedy top 6 forward
Dec 9, 2019 at 10:33
#3
Hurricane Waddell
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 2,677
Likes: 804
It’s still a drastic overpay for AA. Gauthier+1st is a Premium price to pay for a second tier player. While I’m not arguing the fit, the reality is that you are saying (with the package you’re giving up) that AA is going to be a fixture in the top 6, and will produce high end numbers.

Quoting: csick
So youre saying a player is bad based on +/- while playing for a team that's horribly constructed? That's not his fault. Hes still a speedy top 6 forward
Dec 9, 2019 at 6:51
#4
Go Wings Go
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 22,165
Likes: 3,754
Quoting: Rcsherwo
Why on earth would the Canes do this? I just don't see how a -33 player is worth a former 1st rounder playing pretty well in the AHL, a 1st round pick and a good AHL veteran D (who is also the captain of the AHL team).


laugh laugh Yeah maybe AA is a -33 player because of the trash he plays with, Do you honestly thin that he'd be a -33 player if he were playing with Larkin and Mantha. People need to give up this +/- crap it means absolutely nothing.
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Dec 9, 2019 at 7:00
#5
Earfgang
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 64
Likes: 29
I think this is just a misunderstanding of value and need. The hurricanes could make a play for AA but the value is what he is right now and age. Goat is younger and in my opinion a slightly lower class player than AA but the gap in value is relatively close. I think maybe Goat a second and somebody who will not work out in Carolina but maybe somewhere else. Its not a bad idea, and the fit is a good one on the surface just a misunderstanding of value
 
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