Trade For Marner

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Created by: AnalyticsGeek

Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 11, 2019

Published: Dec. 11, 2019

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I think Pens fans were all very excited to see them acquire a player as talented as Alex Galchenyuk. Unfortunately it hasn’t worked out for him and the team should just move on from him, hopefully flip him for a 3rd round pick or something at this point.

I’ve seen people suggest the team should trade for Taylor Hall, however, I really don’t see him as a good option for this team. Indeed, he’s a highly skilled winger with loads of speed, however, he’s really seems to be a more talented version of Galchenyuk who wouldn’t really fit in well with Mike Sullivan’s plans. Keep in mind Sullivan didn’t particularly like Kessel either.

To me, a star Forward who would fit well with Sullivan and Crosby would be Mitch Marner. He offers everything that they are looking for: elite skillset, speed, forecheck and defensively responsible. I know he has a huge contract and it would cost a lot to get him, but this is the star winger who I think could be used well in this team.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Murray, Matt	3	$5,000,000
Pettersson, Marcus	3	$2,500,000
McCann, Jared	3	$3,500,000
Kahun, Dominik	3	$2,500,000
Lafferty, Sam	2	$900,000
Jarry, Tristan	2	$3,500,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Schultz, Justin		4	$6,000,000

Trades

PIT

Marner, Mitchell

TOR

Murray, Matt
Schultz, Justin
2020 1st round pick (PIT)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$83,000,000	$72,317,167	$0	$982,500	$10,682,833

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tanev, Brandon $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 5	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 5	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW UFA - 5
Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Malkin, Evgeni $9,500,000$9,500,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Rust, Bryan $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Poulin, Samuel $894,167$894,167 C, LW RFA - 4	McCann, Jared $3,500,000$3,500,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Kahun, Dominik $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1
	Blueger, Teddy $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Lafferty, Sam $900,000$900,000 RW, C, LW UFA - 2
Aston-Reese, Zach $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dumoulin, Brian $4,100,000$4,100,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Letang, Kris $7,250,000$7,250,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Jarry, Tristan $3,500,000$3,500,000 G UFA - 3
Pettersson, Marcus $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD UFA - 5	Marino, John $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 1	DeSmith, Casey $1,250,000$1,250,000 G UFA - 2
Johnson, Jack $1,150,000$1,150,000 LD UFA - 1	Addison, Calen $795,000$795,000 ($132,500$132K) RD RFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Ruhwedel, Chad $700,000$700,000 RD UFA - 1		Hörnqvist, Patric $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW NTC UFA - 3
		Bjugstad, Nick $2,050,000$2,050,000 C, RW UFA - 1

Dec. 11, 2019 at 5:46 p.m.

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@hockeyfanatic05 @mhockey91 @dgfresh78 @Sidstick87 @Yojimbo @Schlegel

What’s your thoughts regarding this?

Dec. 11, 2019 at 5:50 p.m.

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Can't see Toronto taking this personally.

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Dec. 11, 2019 at 5:53 p.m.

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Quoting: LetsTalkNHL

Can't see Toronto taking this personally.

Definitely not

Dec. 11, 2019 at 5:54 p.m.

Chigurrhh

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Uhh, yeah. This would be pretty bad for Toronto.

Dec. 11, 2019 at 5:54 p.m.

gaudetster

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I just don't see it. I dont think Leafs want to get rid of him and not for that package. Andersen is just as good as Murray, Barrie is a better Schultz, late first round pick won't do anything for them

Maybe Jarry Addison Hallander 2 first round picks + a winger (Kahun/McCann), which it too much for pittsburgh

Dec. 11, 2019 at 5:54 p.m.

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Quoting: LetsTalkNHL

Can't see Toronto taking this personally.

Quoting: mhockey91

Definitely not

You don’t think the value is enough?

Dec. 11, 2019 at 5:56 p.m.

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Quoting: gaudetster

What about DeSmith, Pettersson & 1st Round pick?

Dec. 11, 2019 at 5:56 p.m.

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Quoting: Chigurrhh

Uhh, yeah. This would be pretty bad for Toronto.

They get NHL caliber defenseman and goalie. Plus 1st which they can use to draft another elite defense prospect.

Dec. 11, 2019 at 5:58 p.m.

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Time to mute this thread starter

Dec. 11, 2019 at 5:59 p.m.

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ree wf

Dec. 11, 2019 at 6:05 p.m.

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Quoting: MikeyThePensFan

They get NHL caliber defenseman and goalie. Plus 1st which they can use to draft another elite defense prospect.

They have Andersen so they don't need Murray. Schultz isn't bad, but if they're trading Marner they're looking for an established legit top pairing defenceman. Not to mention that Schultz is in the last year of his contract and is 29 years old. First round pick from a team as good as the penguins doesn't make it worth it either. You're a long way off from fair value.

Dec. 11, 2019 at 6:11 p.m.

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Quoting: MikeyThePensFan

@hockeyfanatic05 @mhockey91 @dgfresh78 @Sidstick87 @Yojimbo @Schlegel

What’s your thoughts regarding this?

1st of all - I love Marner, Im an absolute fan of his but do Not see Toronto trading him at all.
2nd - Dont sleep on Murr's - He has had a bad patch almost every yr in NHL (or gets hurt) - Remember he basically carried us into playoffs last yr.

Dec. 11, 2019 at 6:33 p.m.

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Quoting: MikeyThePensFan

They get NHL caliber defenseman and goalie. Plus 1st which they can use to draft another elite defense prospect.

So a late first to get a player that may or may not work for them in 3ish years.

An RHD who has been fairly bad since he signed his contract and will be a UFA this summer.

And a goalie that will be an RFA that they would need to pay this summer, despite already having a better and consistent starting goalie?

All in return for a 22-year-old coming off a 90 point season? Is that right? Ummm ok then.

Dec. 11, 2019 at 6:38 p.m.

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Quoting: LetsTalkNHL

Can't see Toronto taking this personally.

I could see them taking it personally. Not the trade in itself, but be offended that the pens would only offer that for Marner lol

Dec. 11, 2019 at 6:44 p.m.

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Sign and trades don't happen.

Dec. 11, 2019 at 6:53 p.m.

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As above, would need to add much more value for a Marner trade to be considered.

Dec. 11, 2019 at 9:07 p.m.

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Theres a reason they say the team who gets the best player wins the trade. not to paint marner as a god or discredit any of murray, schultz or a 1st, but sometimes the value of the package isn't the sum of all the parts. This is a trade a rebuilding team makes.

Dec. 12, 2019 at 4:40 p.m.

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Quoting: MikeyThePensFan

@hockeyfanatic05 @mhockey91 @dgfresh78 @Sidstick87 @Yojimbo @Schlegel

What’s your thoughts regarding this?

TOR says no shot

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Dec. 12, 2019 at 4:55 p.m.

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Quoting: NR1203

Well, Marner is not going to fetch you a top pairing defenseman and Schultz is very good. No team is going to trade their top defenseman for 11 million dollar winger.

Dec. 12, 2019 at 4:56 p.m.

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Quoting: Schlegel

TOR says no shot

This trade meets the requirement of TOR’s most desperate need though.

Dec. 12, 2019 at 4:57 p.m.

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Quoting: Chigurrhh

Schultz had a very solid 2017/18 season defensively. In 2018-19, he suffered a serious injury. This season, he’s played well but Marino has overtaken him. I would not trade Marino for Marner however.

Dec. 12, 2019 at 4:58 p.m.

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Quoting: Sidstick87

Agree on Murray.

Dec. 12, 2019 at 4:59 p.m.

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Quoting: JimCarrey

The value is probably a little off. But keep in mind, the Leafs are desperate for goaltending and defense. They are in cap hell therefore it may come down to the point where they have no choice but to trade away one of their top forwards.

Dec. 19, 2019 at 11:31 a.m.

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Quoting: MikeyThePensFan

Well, Marner is not going to fetch you a top pairing defenseman and Schultz is very good. No team is going to trade their top defenseman for 11 million dollar winger.

I hope you’re joking. If not you really need to brush up on NHL players.

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