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Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:10 p.m.
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habs at the middle in the league...

wings right at the bottom...

suck it wings.
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Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:14 p.m.
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Quoting: TheChief
habs at the middle in the league...

wings right at the bottom...

suck it wings.


Habs with 24 cups

Red wings with only 11

suck it Red wings
Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:17 p.m.
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One is playing 1st line winger with offensive bias (high % of offensive zone starts, 1st line PP)

The other is playing 3rd line center with defensive bias (high percentage of defensive starts, PK time)

Kotkaniemi is almost a full year younger than Zadina.

Suck it Red wings
Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:19 p.m.
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Quoting: GMmaster13
Habs with 24 cups

Red wings with only 11

suck it Red wings


Betcha half the folks on CapFriendly can't even remember the last Hab Cup win. (1993). Actually the Leafs and Habs have had similar regular season and playoff success since 1993.
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Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:20 p.m.
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Betcha half the folks on CapFriendly can't even remember the last Hab Cup win. (1993). Actually the Leafs and Habs have had similar regular season and playoff success since 1993.


What about since 2010?
Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:27 p.m.
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What about since 2010?


thats 9 years bro, i was 8 and even I can remember it.
Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:28 p.m.
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Quoting: TheChief
habs at the middle in the league...

wings right at the bottom...

suck it wings.


jokes on you, i would rather be here than anywhere outside the playoffs. at least we arent an average bubble team that is too bad to make the playoffs, but too good to get a good pick. you werent even alive when the habs won their last cup
Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:28 p.m.
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thats 9 years bro, i was 8 and even I can remember it.


Truth is, the Leafs have been a joke since 1967. You can spin it however you want, but Montreal has been better than them for a long time
Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:28 p.m.
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Quoting: HabsForEver
One is playing 1st line winger with offensive bias (high % of offensive zone starts, 1st line PP)

The other is playing 3rd line center with defensive bias (high percentage of defensive starts, PK time)

Kotkaniemi is almost a full year younger than Zadina.

Suck it Red wings


Just an FYI Kotkaniemi has 61.7% Ozone Starts this year....Zadina 59.1% Ozone Starts
Kotkaniemi has registed 5 seconds of PK time this season and weirdly enough Zadina has 20 seconds (according to NHL.com)
Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:28 p.m.
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jokes on you, i would rather be here than anywhere outside the playoffs. at least we arent an average bubble team that is too bad to make the playoffs, but too good to get a good pick. you werent even alive when the habs won their last cup


Montreal's in a playoff spot though?
Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:31 p.m.
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Montreal's in a playoff spot though?


for now. tampa bay and toronto will turn it on eventually. you've got florida who are better than you guys too in there. enjoy it while it lasts
Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:31 p.m.
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Just an FYI Kotkaniemi has 61.7% Ozone Starts this year....Zadina 59.1% Ozone Starts


That's what happens when you make blind assumptions when you aren't on your computer.

Regardless, Kotkaniemi plays 3rd line center with AHL linemates and is nearly a year younger than Zadina
Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:31 p.m.
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Just an FYI Kotkaniemi has 61.7% Ozone Starts this year....Zadina 59.1% Ozone Starts


ok? so what
Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:32 p.m.
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for now. tampa bay and toronto will turn it on eventually. you've got florida who are better than you guys too in there. enjoy it while it lasts


Tampa and Florida for sure, Toronto I don't agree. Unless they make a drastic change, they aren't making the playoffs
Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:32 p.m.
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That's what happens when you make blind assumptions when you aren't on your computer.

Regardless, Kotmaniemi plays 3rd line center with AHL linemates and is nearly a year younger than Zadina


have you seen the red wings team? his wingers tonight were filppula and glendening lmaoo
Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:32 p.m.
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That's what happens when you make blind assumptions when you aren't on your computer.

Regardless, Kotmaniemi plays 3rd line center with AHL linemates and is nearly a year younger than Zadina


I was just curious so I wanted to look it up myself, still looks like Kotkaniemi is getting very sheltered minutes, but like you said, if he has plug lint mates that doesn't help
Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:32 p.m.
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Tampa and Florida for sure, Toronto I don't agree. Unless they make a drastic change, they aren't making the playoffs


i think they're too skilled, but yea I agree they might miss them. idk though so much time and they have so much skill
Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:32 p.m.
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ok? so what


I dunno just the facts man, only reporting the facts
Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:33 p.m.
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I dunno just the facts man, only reporting the facts


its like 2% difference, thats basically nothing
Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:34 p.m.
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its like 2% difference, thats basically nothing


he said that Kotkaniemi gets heavy D zone starts, but its the opposite he gets more Ozone starts than Zadina (psst thats a good thing for red wing fans)
Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:34 p.m.
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I was just curious so I wanted to look it up myself, still looks like Kotkaniemi is getting very sheltered minutes, but like you said, if he has plug lint mates that doesn't help


It was good when he atleast has Armia, but after Drouin got injured, he was thrown Cousins and whatever AHL call up that was around at the time
Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:36 p.m.
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It was good when he atleast has Armia, but after Drouin got injured, he was thrown Cousins and whatever AHL call up that was around at the time


yeah Cousins and Weal seem to be his most common line mates in this quarter of the season, some time with Armia and Lehkonen. So no real top 6 talent there
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Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:38 p.m.
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yeah Cousins and Weal seem to be his most common line mates in this quarter of the season, some time with Armia and Lehkonen. So no real top 6 talent there


If you watched his games, he was always creating chances, but Lehkonen's finishing ability is non-existant. Armia moved up once Drouin got injured so
Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:40 p.m.
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If you watched his games, he was always creating chances, but Lehkonen's finishing ability is non-existant. Armia moved up once Drouin got injured so


I would get it if they were putting him in a D role and wanting him to work on that so hes a lock down Shutdown C... but if they are putting him in offensive starts with 0 offensive help, they are just wasting his talent and ability. Put him a role to succeed.
Dec. 12, 2019 at 10:42 p.m.
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I would get it if they were putting him in a D role and wanting him to work on that so hes a lock down Shutdown C... but if they are putting him in offensive starts with 0 offensive help, they are just wasting his talent and ability. Put him a role to succeed.


I find it so weird that he starts most of his shifts in the offensive zone. He's more known for his defensive ability than his offensive ability. Tatar-Danault-Gallagher always play the shutdown role against opposing teams best lines, Maybe CJ is trying to get offense from him?
 
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