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Dont be Saad

Created by: Stiles18
Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 13, 2019
Published: Dec. 13, 2019
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Trades
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PIT
  1. 2020 4th round pick (VAN)
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CHI
  1. Aston-Reese, Zach
  2. Galchenyuk, Alex
  3. 2020 4th round pick (PIT)
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2021
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22$81,500,000$72,556,625$132,500$3,700,000$8,943,375
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$700,000$700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 6
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
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UFA - 4
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
G
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 2
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$874,125$874,125
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$850,000$850,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 2

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Dec. 13, 2019 at 12:20 p.m.
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CHI NYI
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I will be if that’s what we get back
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Dec. 13, 2019 at 12:36 p.m.
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At $6M cap, Saad would instantly become the worst contract on the Pens, yes, including Jack Johnson.

Last year Saad got top line time, yet managed to get only 1/2 the points of his linemates. Well rounded you say? No. Daniel Sprong was more physical, and he is only okay defensively.
This year... he is basically a Simon/Blueger type... at SIX TIMES THE COST!!!

If you really want to bring the Pittsburgh kid into Pittsburgh... the deal must include either 50% retention and/or Jack Johnson going the other way.
Dec. 13, 2019 at 12:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Yojimbo
At $6M cap, Saad would instantly become the worst contract on the Pens, yes, including Jack Johnson.

Last year Saad got top line time, yet managed to get only 1/2 the points of his linemates. Well rounded you say? No. Daniel Sprong was more physical, and he is only okay defensively.
This year... he is basically a Simon/Blueger type... at SIX TIMES THE COST!!!

If you really want to bring the Pittsburgh kid into Pittsburgh... the deal must include either 50% retention and/or Jack Johnson going the other way.


Saad was decent last year and has been really good this year. Johnson and Tanev have worse contracts than Saad.
Dec. 13, 2019 at 12:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Yojimbo
At $6M cap, Saad would instantly become the worst contract on the Pens, yes, including Jack Johnson.

Last year Saad got top line time, yet managed to get only 1/2 the points of his linemates. Well rounded you say? No. Daniel Sprong was more physical, and he is only okay defensively.
This year... he is basically a Simon/Blueger type... at SIX TIMES THE COST!!!

If you really want to bring the Pittsburgh kid into Pittsburgh... the deal must include either 50% retention and/or Jack Johnson going the other way.


This is insane. However, it is your opinion to have.
Dec. 13, 2019 at 12:58 p.m.
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pens get destroyed in these trades so i love them
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:02 p.m.
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Caps fan idk why
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This is insane. However, it is your opinion to have.


Penguin fans tend to glorify Simon. Jay beagle guy told me he was the best defensive forward in the NHL.
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Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:04 p.m.
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Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: Yojimbo
At $6M cap, Saad would instantly become the worst contract on the Pens, yes, including Jack Johnson.

Last year Saad got top line time, yet managed to get only 1/2 the points of his linemates. Well rounded you say? No. Daniel Sprong was more physical, and he is only okay defensively.
This year... he is basically a Simon/Blueger type... at SIX TIMES THE COST!!!

If you really want to bring the Pittsburgh kid into Pittsburgh... the deal must include either 50% retention and/or Jack Johnson going the other way.


Hey how about our boy bura this year. Haha
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:10 p.m.
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Who adds what?
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
This is insane. However, it is your opinion to have.


No. It's your opinion to have. And you can't fight it.
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:10 p.m.
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Hey how about our boy bura this year. Haha


I don't know of the player to whom you refer.


nothing to see...

move along...



(but actually, you mean the guy that is about to surpass 3 of his 5 years worth of offensive production thereby proving how much he shatthebed the last two years? That guy? Yeah, everything that I said still stands firm)
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Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:13 p.m.
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Kyle from Chicago
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No. It's your opinion to have. And you can't fight it.


I could spend some time debating it, but I know it would be a fruitless effort. So then why bother? Besides, I have better things to do than that. Have a good day.
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:14 p.m.
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Who adds what?
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I could spend some time debating it, but I know it would be a fruitless effort. So then why bother? Besides, I have better things to do than that. Have a good day.


No. YOU have a good day!
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:14 p.m.
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Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: Yojimbo
I don't know of the player to whom you refer.


nothing to see...

move along...



(but actually, you mean the guy that is about to surpass 3 of his 5 years worth of offensive production thereby proving how much he shatthebed the last two years? That guy? Yeah, everything that I said still stands firm)


Yeah I’m bitter he’s playing well. Like where was this guy for 3-4 years. Also question for you. Why does your fan base glorify Simon? Do you guy believe he’s a above average middle 6 forward. Also an elite defensive player or is that just a select few on this site?
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Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:29 p.m.
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The Saad addition would be great for Pitts... not sure if the value worth it... UFA Chucky, Aaston is a project because with all the injuries the Pens ad and he couldn't break through... sorry but that's not enough for Saad... that's Sad sarcasm
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:29 p.m.
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Yeah I’m bitter he’s playing well. Like where was this guy for 3-4 years. Also question for you. Why does your fan base glorify Simon? Do you guy believe he’s a above average middle 6 forward. Also an elite defensive player or is that just a select few on this site?


From what I've noticed he's a metrics fanboy's dream. Many pens fans don't see it. He's smart and he is responsibly defensively and I think he's an NHL caliber player but he could easily be replaced. Sid loves playing with him and Guentzel.
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Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:30 p.m.
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Quoting: DomCholette
The Saad addition would be great for Pitts... not sure if the value worth it... UFA Chucky, Aaston is a project because with all the injuries the Pens ad and he couldn't break through... sorry but that's not enough for Saad... that's Sad sarcasm


I could see why Hawks fans wouldn't think it's enough, but thinking outside the box, if CHI isn't going anywhere this year, why not dump Saad and his 6M for a cheap young forward in ZAR, and Chucky is a UFA next season. That's 10M of cap space for CHI for next season.
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:31 p.m.
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Caps fan idk why
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From what I've noticed he's a metrics fanboy's dream. Many pens fans don't see it. He's smart and he is responsibly defensively and I think he's an NHL caliber player but he could easily be replaced. Sid loves playing with him and Guentzel.


Yeah i just don’t get it. People talk like he’s mark stone. I think he’s a solid 4th line player but advanced stats guys love the imaginary points
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Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:34 p.m.
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Penguin fans tend to glorify Simon. Jay beagle guy told me he was the best defensive forward in the NHL.


JayBeagleFanAccount is a caps fan dude lmao
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:40 p.m.
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Caps fan idk why
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JayBeagleFanAccount is a caps fan dude lmao


Hardly matter when you make idiotic points like that. Why are you speaking for him? Maybe he’s a jay beagle fan? Either way a terrible point is a terrible point regardless who it comes from
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:46 p.m.
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Yeah I’m bitter he’s playing well. Like where was this guy for 3-4 years. Also question for you. Why does your fan base glorify Simon? Do you guy believe he’s a above average middle 6 forward. Also an elite defensive player or is that just a select few on this site?


I don't think the fans glorify him, I think that Crosby does... so Sullivan plays them together.

However, there are many many fans that are incapable of individual thought, so since Crosby likes Simon, they like Simon. If you ask them why, they will stumble because the "why" would require individual thought, which as I said.... eludes them.
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Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:47 p.m.
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Who adds what?
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JayBeagleFanAccount is a caps fan dude lmao


Beagle's with the Canucks now. I think it transfers. smile
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Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:48 p.m.
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Caps fan idk why
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I don't think the fans glorify him, I think that Crosby does... so Sullivan plays them together.

However, there are many many fans that are incapable of individual thought, so since Crosby likes Simon, they like Simon. If you ask them why, they will stumble because the "why" would require individual thought, which as I said.... eludes them.


Very well said. Crosby has a very odd taste in wingers. I think guentzel might be the only really talented guy he’s ever been paired with. High hockey IQ and solid everywhere else
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:48 p.m.
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Hardly matter when you make idiotic points like that. Why are you speaking for him? Maybe he’s a jay beagle fan? Either way a terrible point is a terrible point regardless who it comes from


he might not be the best defensive forward in the league, but he's definitely up there, do you have any way to prove otherwise...?
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:49 p.m.
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Caps fan idk why
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Beagle's with the Canucks now. I think it transfers. smile


Makes sense look at his past comments he once said that Copp was better than Kuznetsov. He’s far from being a capitals fan. He might hate them for not overpaying beagle.
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:50 p.m.
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Caps fan idk why
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he might not be the best defensive forward in the league, but he's definitely up there, do you have any way to prove otherwise...?


You mean besides the obvious-3 -3 turnover ratio barely hit or blocks shots? Seems like he’s average to good but hardly elite or great
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Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:52 p.m.
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Yeah i just don’t get it. People talk like he’s mark stone. I think he’s a solid 4th line player but advanced stats guys love the imaginary points


There is a poster who goes absolutely bonkers off the mark with basing player trade values on meaningless advanced stats...
 
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