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(NJD/ARI) - Hall, Speers for Bahl, Merkley, Schnarr, 1sr round pick, conditional 3rd round pick

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Dec 16, 2019 at 4:54
#1
Trade confirmed: Arizona Coyotes - New Jersey Devils
Trade Details
New Jersey Devils Acquire:
New Jersey Devils
2020 conditional 1st round pick* (ARI)
2021 conditional 3rd round pick** (ARI)
*Conditions: If Arizona's 2020 1st selection is in the top three, New Jersey will receive Arizona's 1st round pick in 2021
**Conditions: The 3rd round pick can upgrade to a 2nd if the Coyotes win a playoff round OR if Taylor Hall re-signs in Arizona. The pick upgrades to a 1st if Hall re-signs AND the Coyotes win a playoff round.
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Dec 16, 2019 at 4:55
#2
Just making friends
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Balls to the wall
I mean
Bahls for the Hall
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Dec 16, 2019 at 4:56
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Shero got bent over
Dec 16, 2019 at 4:57
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No not Blake Speers, why God? Why?

Also guess I'm cheering for the Coyotes now.
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Dec 16, 2019 at 4:57
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HonestHockeyNYI
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Really didn't think AZ would grab him, considering their cap situation.
Dec 16, 2019 at 4:57
#6
The Enlightened One
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To anyone who thinks this is a fair deal or good for the Devils in any way just remember this:
The islanders received a similar package for Michael Grabner.

Shero got fleeced! He needed to get quality over quantity and he just... didn't.
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Dec 16, 2019 at 4:58
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On one hand, it's better to get something for someone you know is leaving in the offseason than just letting them walk for nothing (ahem, Columbus). On the other hand, wtf Shero lol.
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Dec 16, 2019 at 4:59
#8
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Win for Arizona by far
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Dec 16, 2019 at 4:59
#9
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Quoting: Random2152
To anyone who thinks this is a fair deal or good for the Devils in any way just remember this:
The islanders received a similar package for Grabner.

Shero got fleeced! He needed to get quality over quantity and he just... didn't.


hahaha

was hoping the trade wouldve been for more, but shero getting fleeced is just as good
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Dec 16, 2019 at 4:59
#10
Marner Kermit Fetish
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Biggest piece of this trade is clearly Blake Speers
Dec 16, 2019 at 5:00
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Not a ton to get for such a good player, but as a rental of a guy they weren't going to be able to re-sign, it's a decent return. Fair trade.
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Dec 16, 2019 at 5:00
#12
The Enlightened One
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Quoting: mondo
hahaha

was hoping the trade wouldve been for more, but shero getting fleeced is just as good


The rules of Hall:
If he is on your team you either make the playoffs or win the lottery
If you trade him, you lose
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Dec 16, 2019 at 5:02
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surely yotes need to move somebody of there roster but whos likely to be traded
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Dec 16, 2019 at 5:03
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Quoting: bkoopi69
On one hand, it's better to get something for someone you know is leaving in the offseason than just letting them walk for nothing (ahem, Columbus). On the other hand, wtf Shero lol.


How is Rykov + 2nd anywhere near a similar return? To start there is a 1st, with another conditional 1st/2nd/3rd. Those picks alone outvalue the grabner "package". Then you add Merkley and Bahl.

Sure its not a fantastic deal for the Devils but when was the last time you saw a high quality prospect moved for a rental?
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Dec 16, 2019 at 5:04
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I hate the Devils more than any other team but even I wouldn't say they lost this trade. Seems like wherever Hall was going to end up, people were going to bash the Devils for their return. In all honestly, he isn't worth the moon, so I don't know why people were expecting that. Bahl and Merkley are really good prospects, and they got two picks out of it too. Giving up Speers was... weird... but aside from that, this really isn't a bad return for an overrated, polarizing, unproven (in playoffs) 28 year-old winger who was never going to sign in NJ anyway. I'm with you on this one, Devils fans (never thought I'd say that). Hockey world overreacting. Let's see what Hall can do in the playoffs before we call this a win for Arizona.
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Dec 16, 2019 at 5:05
#16
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Oh my God Arizona with no mercy. They hustled 'em
Dec 16, 2019 at 5:05
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I really like this move for the Devils. Great job getting assets in return for a player that was all but gone in the off-season. Not just prospects, but draft picks on top of that. Excellent trade for the rebuilding Devils. Now if they can continue this trend and build around their future. Looking at you Subban...

Coyotes already have a good lineup that, IMO, has over achieved. We can debate if they will stay the course and continue this level of play but Hall is really a mystery at this point. Who knows which player he will show up as? And a possible rental? That's alot of talent to give up. I'd pump the brakes if I were a 'yotes fan. It really seems like a feast or famine situation with this trade.
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Dec 16, 2019 at 5:05
#18
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A very solid C prospect, two other solid prospects and potentially 2 firsts for a rental to Arizona.

I think it's fair. Shero didn't get "fleeced", and the Grabner trade was NOT comparable to this at all (*ahem*)

Quoting: Random2152
The islanders received a similar package for Michael Grabner.


I think the trade is fine for both sides.
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Dec 16, 2019 at 5:05
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I think Devils should got more from Halls trade. They lost a MVP and got two decent prospects, one solid prospect (but Bahls way to the NHL will be long). The only big think could be the first rounder, but it is projected to be mid-or-late pick, so...
Dec 16, 2019 at 5:06
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Quoting: Random2152
The rules of Hall:
If he is on your team you either make the playoffs or win the lottery
If you trade him, you lose


Hasn't hall only made the playoffs once? Not really a rule as it is just an unexpected blip on the radar.
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Dec 16, 2019 at 5:06
#21
i hope ur hungry now
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Hall-lelujah
Dec 16, 2019 at 5:06
#22
Nylander is a GOD
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I’m happy for Arizona. If there was any fan base that suffered enough to just say **** it let’s treat ourselves it was them. Great deal for them, also please go to UFA Hall because we don’t need u in the central.
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Dec 16, 2019 at 5:06
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The Enlightened One
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Quoting: MoreOfAnIslesGuy
A very solid C prospect, two other solid prospects and potentially 2 firsts for a rental to Arizona.

I think it's fair. Shero didn't get "fleeced", and the Grabner trade was NOT comparable to this at all (*ahem*

I think the trade is fine for both sides.


Grabner got 5 B/C prospects
Hall got a 1st, 3 B/C prospects and a 3rd ( likely another B/C prospect).

Hall got more, but not a ton more
Dec 16, 2019 at 5:07
#24
The Enlightened One
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Quoting: worcat
Hasn't hall only made the playoffs once? Not really a rule as it is just an unexpected blip on the radar.


Why don't you re-read what I read.

you EITHER make the playoffs OR win the lottery.
Dec 16, 2019 at 5:07
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Guess I will join the opposite side as I do with most of these trades.

A hard first round pick, A conditional 3rd that is almost guarantee to become a 2nd round pick (could become 1st).

And 3 B prospects (1 being a former first)

All for a Rental who isn't even a PPG and missed almost all of last season with an injury.


Thanks for bringing Tatar's value up smile
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