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(NJD/ARI) - Hall, Speers for Bahl, Merkley, Schnarr, 1sr round pick, conditional 3rd round pick

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Dec. 16, 2019 at 6:08 p.m.
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Not gonna lie this is way more than i thought it would be. Its definitely a quantity over quality deal though.

Good trade for both teams IMO.
Dec. 16, 2019 at 6:14 p.m.
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Does this mean Edmonton won the Larson Trade? XD
Dec. 16, 2019 at 6:20 p.m.
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At the end of the day Taylor Hall wins, he gets to see the playoffs this year, very likely, and he will make a metric ****ton of money next year. Good luck Arizona, go win the weak pacific and try and upset Dallas or St louis and youve got a chance at a cup
Dec. 16, 2019 at 6:24 p.m.
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How is Hall playing this year?
How many goals???

I think Shero couldn't get quality so he went for quantity instead.


Anyone would have accepted from the AVs the following instead :

1st rounder
Timmins
B/C prospect
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Dec. 16, 2019 at 6:31 p.m.
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People need to read into these trades before they go voting because the amount of people who think Arizona Won this trade is way too many. Keep in mind that AZ is a good solid team right now and they just got better with Hall in the short term. The Coyotes are going to make the playoffs and I think they will win their first round match up so right there the NJ Devils are getting a hard 1st Round pick in a very deep draft (2020) and they get a (soon to be) 2nd Round pick in another deep draft in 2021. In addition, NJ gets the 3rd and 4th rated Prospects from AZ right now and Kevin Bahl is a STUD and a big one at that. Merkley is an NHL caliber player and will make the NJ team going forward. Getting basically 4 young players in this deal is terrific for NJ for a player who they weren't able to sign is very good. I think the Coyotes will TRY VERY HARD to sign Taylor Hall longterm if he does good in the first month. Once Marian Hossa and Mike Ribiero's contracts come off their books they will have the Cap to lock him in as one of their top forwards. I think it's a win win for both teams right now but overall I think IF NJ drafts well then they win longterm. If Hall was more consistent I'd be saying otherwise.
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Dec. 16, 2019 at 6:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Random2152
To anyone who thinks this is a fair deal or good for the Devils in any way just remember this:
The islanders received a similar package for Michael Grabner.

Shero got fleeced! He needed to get quality over quantity and he just... didn't.


Weren't you the guy who said Sakic got fleeced with the Barrie trade lol. Hall is very overrated. Shero got a solid return for him.
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Dec. 16, 2019 at 6:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
I’m happy for Arizona. If there was any fan base that suffered enough to just say **** it let’s treat ourselves it was them. Great deal for them, also please go to UFA Hall because we don’t need u in the central.


Why? You don't want Arizona picking 1st overall?
Dec. 16, 2019 at 6:57 p.m.
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honest opinion on this trade is that arizona obviously wins in the short term.

new jersey is banking on the prospects panning out and the two picks being decent players. unlikely that anything eventually coming back will be a first line winger, but it's likely to be more than adam larsson lol
Dec. 16, 2019 at 7:00 p.m.
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Why? You don't want Arizona picking 1st overall?


No, they are moving to the central when SEA comes in.
Dec. 16, 2019 at 7:06 p.m.
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Fair trade. Arizona didn’t overpay for a rental, and NJ got good value in a trick situation.
Dec. 16, 2019 at 7:09 p.m.
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No, they are moving to the central when SEA comes in.
it's super-stupid that the NHL plans to move the Coyotes to the Central Division, and I recall reading that the Coyotes' upper management also thinks the same way and would rather the NHL maybe come up with a not-so-lazy solution.
Dec. 16, 2019 at 7:20 p.m.
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Quoting: HonestHockeyNYI
Really didn't think AZ would grab him, considering their cap situation.


They probably won't resign him
Dec. 16, 2019 at 7:20 p.m.
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Quoting: HonestHockeyNYI
Really didn't think AZ would grab him, considering their cap situation.


They probably won't resign him
Dec. 16, 2019 at 7:20 p.m.
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Quoting: HonestHockeyNYI
Really didn't think AZ would grab him, considering their cap situation.


They probably won't resign him
Dec. 16, 2019 at 7:20 p.m.
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Quoting: HonestHockeyNYI
Really didn't think AZ would grab him, considering their cap situation.


They probably won't resign him
Dec. 16, 2019 at 7:25 p.m.
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They probably won't resign him
nice multipost :P
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Dec. 16, 2019 at 7:26 p.m.
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Quoting: DragonRaptorHybrid
nice multipost :P


irdk how it happened
Dec. 16, 2019 at 7:28 p.m.
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Hall taking all of his playoff experience, winning history, and leadership to Arizona.

Oh, no, wait...

At least the AGMs can move on.
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Dec. 16, 2019 at 7:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Random2152
To anyone who thinks this is a fair deal or good for the Devils in any way just remember this:
The islanders received a similar package for Michael Grabner.

Shero got fleeced! He needed to get quality over quantity and he just... didn't.


no they didnt. nyi didnt get any 1st rounders or a player even drafted in 1st round.
nj got some ok futures and some extra picks for a guy with 6 goals in 30 games so not bad.
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Dec. 16, 2019 at 8:02 p.m.
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Edited Dec. 16, 2019 at 8:19 p.m.
Looks even for now, depending on the prospect
Dec. 16, 2019 at 8:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Joe_La_Garnotte
What happens if all conditions are met! If Az has a top 3 pick the (2020 1st becomes a 2021 1st) and if they win a round and re-signs Hall the (2021 3rd becomes a 2021 1st) so 2× 2021 1st how is that possible?

It will probably shift one of the first until 2022
Dec. 16, 2019 at 8:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Joe_La_Garnotte
What happens if all conditions are met! If Az has a top 3 pick the (2020 1st becomes a 2021 1st) and if they win a round and re-signs Hall the (2021 3rd becomes a 2021 1st) so 2× 2021 1st how is that possible?


The most they get is two firsts.

New Jersey will receive Arizona's first round pick unless it ends up being in the top 3 this year. If the conditions are met for the other pick, that one would be for their 2022 first round pick instead.
Dec. 16, 2019 at 8:28 p.m.
#73
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
No, they are moving to the central when SEA comes in.


They're picking 1st overall now though. It comes with Hall.
Dec. 16, 2019 at 8:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Random2152
The rules of Hall:
If he is on your team you either make the playoffs or win the lottery
If you trade him, you lose


And his teams have more lottery picks than playoff appearances...
Dec. 16, 2019 at 8:42 p.m.
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Quoting: BruinsWillWin2020
It will probably shift one of the first until 2022


I got that one wrong they can't have a top 3 pick and win a playoff round
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