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TRADE KREIDER ASAP

Created by: buchiegang
Initial Creation Date: Dec 16, 2019
Published: Dec 16, 2019 at 5:48
Team: 2019-20 New York Rangers
Team Explanation
Possible returns for Kreids from various teams. I think a 1st and a mid tier prospect is fair for him based on Hall trade.
Trades
NYR
  1. Bjork, Anders
  2. 2020 1st round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Kreider, Chris
NYR
  1. Gauthier, Julien
  2. 2020 1st round pick (CAR)
CAR
    NYR
    1. Tufte, Riley
    2. 2020 1st round pick (DAL)
    DAL
      NYR
      1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Reserve List]
      2. 2020 1st round pick (EDM)
      EDM
        NYR
        1. Denisenko, Grigori [Reserve List]
        2. 2020 1st round pick (FLA)
        FLA
          NYR
          1. Alexandrov, Nikita
          2. 2020 1st round pick (STL)
          STL
            NYR
            1. Vesalainen, Kristian
            2. 2020 1st round pick (WPG)
            WPG
              Buyouts
              • Dan Girardi: $3,611,111
              • Kevin Shattenkirk: $1,483,333
              • Ryan Spooner: $300,000
              • Brad Richards: $0
              Retained Salary Transactions
              • Vladislav Namestnikov: $750,000 (19%)
              Buried
              • Matt Beleskey: $825,000 ($1,900,000)
              DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
              2020
              NYR
              BOS
              CAR
              DAL
              EDM
              FLA
              STL
              WPG
              NYR
              DAL
              NYR
              NYR
              NYR
              NYR
              NSH
              VAN
              2021
              NYR
              NYR
              NYR
              BUF
              NYR
              OTT
              NYR
              NYR
              NYR
              2022
              NYR
              NYR
              NYR
              NYR
              NYR
              NYR
              NYR
              ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
              26$81,500,000$77,889,800$0$4,707,500$3,610,200
              Left WingCenterRight Wing
              NYR
              Panarin, Artemi
              $11,642,857
              LW
              NMC
              UFA - 7
              NYR
              Zibanejad, Mika
              $5,350,000
              C
              NMC
              UFA - 3
              NYR
              Buchnevich, Pavel
              $3,250,000
              RW, LW
              RFA - 2
              NYR
              Lemieux, Brendan
              $925,000
              LW, RW
              RFA - 1
              NYR
              Strome, Ryan
              $3,100,000
              C, RW
              UFA - 1
              NYR
              Fast, Jesper
              $1,850,000
              RW
              UFA - 1
              NYR
              Chytil, Filip
              $894,166
              C, LW
              RFA - 2
              NYR
              Howden, Brett
              $863,333
              C
              RFA - 2
              NYR
              Kakko, Kaapo
              $925,000
              RW
              RFA - 3
              BOS
              Bjork, Anders
              $925,000
              LW, RW
              RFA - 1
              NYR
              McKegg, Greg
              $750,000
              C, LW
              UFA - 1
              CAR
              Gauthier, Julien
              $863,333
              RW
              RFA - 2
              DAL
              Tufte, Riley
              $925,000
              LW
              RFA - 3
              NYR
              Haley, Micheal
              $700,000
              C
              UFA - 1
              WPG
              Vesalainen, Kristian
              $894,167
              LW, RW
              RFA - 3
              STL
              Alexandrov, Nikita
              $861,667
              C
              RFA - 4
              Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
              NYR
              Staal, Marc
              $5,700,000
              LD
              NMC
              UFA - 2
              NYR
              Trouba, Jacob
              $8,000,000
              RD
              UFA - 7
              NYR
              Lundqvist, Henrik
              $8,500,000
              G
              NMC
              UFA - 2
              NYR
              Skjei, Brady
              $5,250,000
              LD
              UFA - 5
              NYR
              Smith, Brendan
              $4,350,000
              LD
              NTC
              UFA - 2
              NYR
              Georgiev, Alexandar
              $792,500
              G
              RFA - 1
              NYR
              Lindgren, Ryan
              $925,000
              LD
              RFA - 2
              NYR
              Deangelo, Anthony
              $925,000
              RD
              RFA - 1
              NYR
              Hájek, Libor
              $833,333
              LD
              RFA - 2
              NYR
              Fox, Adam
              $925,000
              RD
              RFA - 3

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              Dec 16, 2019 at 5:57
              #1
              Shibbal18
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              Krieder is not really comparible to Hall. NY is looking at a 2nd round pick and decent prospect coming back if your basing it on the Hall trade
              Dec 16, 2019 at 5:59
              #2
              ClockReads2113
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              He isn't getting more than Hall.
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              Dec 16, 2019 at 6:21
              #3
              mokumboi
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              Blues laugh and hang up.
              Dec 16, 2019 at 6:29
              #4
              buchiegang
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              Quoting: ClockReads2113
              He isn't getting more than Hall.


              How exactly are any of these more then Hall?
              Dec 16, 2019 at 6:30
              #5
              buchiegang
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              Quoting: Shibbal18
              Krieder is not really comparible to Hall. NY is looking at a 2nd round pick and decent prospect coming back if your basing it on the Hall trade


              Agree to disagree. He’s now the premium forward rental in the market. Some one will pay just like people payed for Kevin Hayes and Rick Nash and past years...
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              Dec 16, 2019 at 6:40
              #6
              Hockey91
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              You won’t get denisenko and a first from Florida for kreider. You’d have to throw in fox and a 2nd
              Dec 16, 2019 at 6:44
              #7
              buchiegang
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              Quoting: Hockey91
              You won’t get denisenko and a first from Florida for kreider. You’d have to throw in fox and a 2nd


              That’s absurd. Denisenko has 8 points in the KHL lol...
              Dec 16, 2019 at 6:46
              #8
              gregory_papas
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              Quoting: buchiegang
              Agree to disagree. He’s now the premium forward rental in the market. Some one will pay just like people payed for Kevin Hayes and Rick Nash and past years...


              this is true my man. rangers aren't taking anything less than a first for kreider.
              Dec 16, 2019 at 6:49
              #9
              NHLfan10506
              Joined: May 2019
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              I cannot any of these happening. They may get a 1st pick from playoff-bound team at deadline. But not any of these prospects as well.
              Dec 16, 2019 at 6:54
              #10
              ClockReads2113
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              Quoting: buchiegang
              How exactly are any of these more then Hall?


              Just about every prospect you listed going with a teams 1st is better than all the prospects NJD got in their deal. The prospects NJD got were very meh. Denisenko, Poolparty, Vesalainen, and Alexandrow (who I think is undervalued) are all better than what NJD got.
              Dec 16, 2019 at 7:03
              #11
              mondo
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              Dec 16, 2019 at 7:05
              #12
              Hockey91
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              Quoting: buchiegang
              That’s absurd. Denisenko has 8 points in the KHL lol...


              And kappo has 14 in more games and probably way more ice time playing skilled players. But he’s one of the top prospects not in the us for a borderline 50 point winger. I’m sure they’ll be a team to over pay cause there’s always is. But he’s not getting more than New Jersey got for hall.
              Dec 16, 2019 at 9:49
              #13
              rja40
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              Quoting: buchiegang
              He’s now the premium forward rental in the market. Some one will pay just like people payed for Kevin Hayes and Rick Nash and past years...


              You are correct here, and probably correct that someone will overpay for him. Doubt it's Doug Armstrong though.
              Dec 17, 2019 at 10:06
              #14
              buchiegang
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              Quoting: ClockReads2113
              Just about every prospect you listed going with a teams 1st is better than all the prospects NJD got in their deal. The prospects NJD got were very meh. Denisenko, Poolparty, Vesalainen, and Alexandrow (who I think is undervalued) are all better than what NJD got.


              Ok fair
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              Dec 17, 2019 at 10:07
              #15
              buchiegang
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              Quoting: Hockey91
              And kappo has 14 in more games and probably way more ice time playing skilled players. But he’s one of the top prospects not in the us for a borderline 50 point winger. I’m sure they’ll be a team to over pay cause there’s always is. But he’s not getting more than New Jersey got for hall.


              I hear you but you can’t compare KHL to NHL. Granted he plays on a dumpster fire but look at Gusev...
              Dec 17, 2019 at 10:14
              #16
              Hockey91
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              Quoting: buchiegang
              I hear you but you can’t compare KHL to NHL. Granted he plays on a dumpster fire but look at Gusev...

              I get it, it’s comparing apples to oranges but still. Should of went with krastov better comparison equal numbers in same years. But forgot about him
               
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