Ghost for Subban and more

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Created by: WhatNowDiscussion

Team: 2019-20 Philadelphia Flyers

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 18, 2019

Published: Dec. 18, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Subban needs a team with energy and leadership to keep him in check

JVR is good but not $7 million good. Move him now before he becomes the next Bobby Ryan

PHI really messed up with the Hayes signing. They already have Giroux, Frost, Patrick, Couturier, and Laughton at the center position.

Trades

PHI

Bratt, Jesper
Subban, P.K.
2020 1st round pick (ARI)

NJD

Gostisbehere, Shayne
Hayes, Kevin
2020 2nd round pick (PHI)

PHI

Boedker, Mikkel
2020 2nd round pick (OTT)

OTT

van Riemsdyk, James

Buyouts

Retained Salary Transactions

Radko Gudas: $1,005,000 (30%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$69,093,479	$0	$3,225,000	$12,406,521

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Konecny, Travis $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 6	Giroux, Claude $4,137,500$4,137,500 RW, C NMC UFA - 3	Voracek, Jakub $8,250,000$8,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 5
Farabee, Joel $925,000$925,000 ($400,000$400K) LW, RW UFA - 3	Couturier, Sean $4,333,333$4,333,333 C UFA - 3	Patrick, Nolan $925,000$925,000 ($2,650,000$3M) C, RW UFA - 1
Raffl, Michael $1,200,000$1,200,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Frost, Morgan $863,333$863,333 C RFA - 3	Bratt, Jesper $749,167$749,167 ($42,500$42K) RW, LW UFA - 1
Stewart, Chris $753,757$753,757 RW, LW UFA - 1	Laughton, Scott $2,300,000$2,300,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Boedker, Mikkel $4,000,000$4,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Provorov, Ivan $4,725,000$4,725,000 LD UFA - 6	Subban, P.K. $9,000,000$9,000,000 RD UFA - 3	Elliott, Brian $2,000,000$2,000,000 G UFA - 1
Sanheim, Travis $3,250,000$3,250,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Niskanen, Matt $5,750,000$5,750,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Hart, Carter $730,833$730,833 ($132,500$132K) G RFA - 2
Hägg, Robert $1,150,000$1,150,000 LD UFA - 1	Myers, Philippe $678,889$678,889 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Pitlick, Tyler $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW UFA - 1		Lindblom, Oskar $925,000$925,000 ($212,500$212K) LW UFA - 1
Braun, Justin $3,800,000$3,800,000 RD UFA - 1

Dec. 18, 2019 at 9:30 p.m.

justaBoss

What in tarnation

Joined: Oct. 2017

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The initial thought is decent, but NJ has no more use for Hayes than PHI does. They have Hughes, Hischier, Boqvist, Zacha and Zajac playing the C...

Dec. 18, 2019 at 9:34 p.m.

Smitty426

Joined: May 2016

Posts: 6,790

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Yeah you want PK sure, not that other stuff.
We can retain on Pernell too, make an offer

Dec. 18, 2019 at 9:35 p.m.

Eli

Who adds what?

Joined: Jul. 2017

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Quoting: BurgerBoss

The initial thought is decent, but NJ has no more use for Hayes than PHI does. They have Hughes, Hischier, Boqvist, Zacha and Zajac playing the C...

...don't forget McLeod and Schnarr!

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Dec. 18, 2019 at 9:46 p.m.

justaBoss

What in tarnation

Joined: Oct. 2017

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Quoting: Eli

...don't forget McLeod and Schnarr!

And Merkley lol

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Dec. 18, 2019 at 9:56 p.m.

Jaycee

Joined: Jun. 2019

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Flyers would dumb to move Hayes lol. You do realize Giroux’s years of playing center are behind him right? He’s moved to wing to have longevity being an effective player. Hayes plays a great 200 game. Frost still young and isn’t that strong defensively may be moved to wing eventually. Patrick is an uncertainty with his health. For years the Flyers haven’t had any solutions at center behind 1C. Why trade away a significant piece when you finally have great depth there. Doesn’t make sense when that was a big hole for years.

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Dec. 18, 2019 at 10:01 p.m.

Jah1722

Joined: Jan. 2018

Posts: 5,414

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Imagine giving up 2 quality players for a guy that’s one of the worst players in the league right now with a 9M cap....

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Dec. 19, 2019 at 12:55 a.m.

Pmwalker

Joined: Apr. 2019

Posts: 944

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Giroux is and has been a left winger for a while

Patrick’s health is an unknown and I’d imagine had a lot to do with the Hayes signing.

Laughton is much better on the wing than at Centre. If he’s the Centre it’s the 4th line. He’s also missed time with injury.

Frost is a rookie

Coots is a beast

Doesn’t sound like your comment about the team screwing up signing Hayes holds true at all. They need him.

Dec. 19, 2019 at 3:04 a.m.

Bdinella

Joined: Dec. 2016

Posts: 654

Likes: 116

The basis around this is there. Why not just do JVR for Subban? From rumors, NJ was in the running to sign JVR and philly halways been linked to Subban

Dec. 19, 2019 at 6:36 a.m.

NHLfan10506

Joined: May 2019

Posts: 39,991

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NJD would never give up Bratt + 1st to move Subban (and add salary). And zero chance they take 7 years of Hayes. If this were a deal around Myers/York/Frost/Farabee, maybe something there.

Quoting: BurgerBoss

The initial thought is decent, but NJ has no more use for Hayes than PHI does. They have Hughes, Hischier, Boqvist, Zacha and Zajac playing the C...

Boqvist plays LW. Zacha plays both wing/center. Hischier, Hughes and Zajac are typically top-3 centers and 4th has been mix (Rooney, McLeod, etc).

Dec. 19, 2019 at 7:46 a.m.

#10

DiehardRedWingsFan58

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You honestly giving up Ghost for Subban? Subbans play has really gone south here lately. He's a shell of his former self. No way i'd do Ghost in any deal for Subban. Subban will never live up to the rest of that contract anyways.

Dec. 19, 2019 at 8:57 a.m.

#11

pyro1210

Joined: Jun. 2019

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yeah this is a hard pass for Philly. Subban is not worth his contract, ghost costs half as much and is producing more points than subban this season, and giving up Hayes makes no sense. Current healthy centers are Coots, Frost, Hayes, and Vorobyev. NJ "won" the off season and now they can enjoy the "rewards"

Dec. 19, 2019 at 9:58 a.m.

#12

justaBoss

What in tarnation

Joined: Oct. 2017

Posts: 32,709

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

NJD would never give up Bratt + 1st to move Subban (and add salary). And zero chance they take 7 years of Hayes. If this were a deal around Myers/York/Frost/Farabee, maybe something there.

Boqvist plays LW. Zacha plays both wing/center. Hischier, Hughes and Zajac are typically top-3 centers and 4th has been mix (Rooney, McLeod, etc).

Boqvist can also play C I think.

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