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LA-MTL-PIT

Created by: PENSFAN1991
Initial Creation Date: Dec 20, 2019
Published: Dec 20, 2019 at 4:30 pm
Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Trades
PIT
  1. Quick, Jonathan
  2. Toffoli, Tyler
  3. Carter, Jeff
LAK
  1. Galchenyuk, Alex
  2. Murray, Matt
PIT
  1. Drouin, Jonathan
  2. Gallagher, Brendan
MTL
  1. Carter, Jeff
  2. Toffoli, Tyler
  3. Riikola, Juuso
PIT
    LAK
    1. Drouin, Jonathan
    Buried
    • Casey DeSmith: $175,000 ($1,250,000)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2020
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    2021
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    ANA
    2022
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$79,174,125$132,500$3,832,500$2,325,875
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    PIT
    Guentzel, Jake
    $6,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 5
    PIT
    Crosby, Sidney
    $8,700,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    MTL
    Gallagher, Brendan
    $3,750,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    PIT
    McCann, Jared
    $1,250,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 1
    PIT
    Malkin, Evgeni
    $9,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    PIT
    Rust, Bryan
    $3,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    PIT
    Kahun, Dominik
    $925,000
    LW, RW, C
    RFA - 1
    PIT
    Bjugstad, Nick
    $4,100,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
    PIT
    Hörnqvist, Patric
    $5,300,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    PIT
    Blueger, Teddy
    $750,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    PIT
    Simon, Dominik
    $750,000
    RW, LW
    RFA - 1
    PIT
    Tanev, Brandon
    $3,500,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    PIT
    Dumoulin, Brian
    $4,100,000
    LD
    UFA - 4
    PIT
    Letang, Kris
    $7,250,000
    RD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 3
    PIT
    Jarry, Tristan
    $675,000
    G
    RFA - 1
    PIT
    Pettersson, Marcus
    $874,125
    LD
    UFA - 1
    PIT
    Marino, John
    $925,000
    D
    RFA - 2
    LAK
    Quick, Jonathan
    $5,800,000
    G
    UFA - 4
    PIT
    Johnson, Jack
    $3,250,000
    LD
    UFA - 4
    PIT
    Schultz, Justin
    $5,500,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    PIT
    Aston-Reese, Zach
    $1,000,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    PIT
    Lafferty, Sam
    $767,500
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
    PIT
    Ruhwedel, Chad
    $700,000
    RD
    UFA - 2

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    Dec 20, 2019 at 4:36
    #1
    BigOaf69
    Joined: Mar 2018
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    that's enough internet for you today
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    Dec 20, 2019 at 4:39
    #2
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    Trading away 3 major pieces of the Kings core and giving them nothing in return? Why would the Kings do that?
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    Dec 20, 2019 at 4:47
    #3
    Joined: Jan 2019
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    Quoting: tkecanuck341
    Trading away 3 major pieces of the Kings core and giving them nothing in return? Why would the Kings do that?


    The Montreal trade is worse
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    Dec 20, 2019 at 4:52
    #4
    Laffy will be a habs
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    well thats funny
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    Dec 20, 2019 at 4:53
    #5
    Joined: Jun 2018
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    Quoting: tkecanuck341
    Trading away 3 major pieces of the Kings core and giving them nothing in return? Why would the Kings do that?


    Bc quick has one of the worst contracts in the league and has been a bottom 3 goalie in the league the past two years while Murray has at least been close to average and is like 10 years younger...
    Dec 20, 2019 at 4:56
    #6
    Joined: Jun 2017
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    Our 2 best forwards for 2 overpaid middle 6 players and a depth defenseman? Exusez-moi?
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    Dec 20, 2019 at 5:04
    #7
    Subbanator
    Joined: Jul 2017
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    Think you forgot to include the 2020 1st, 2021 1st, 2022 1st and 2023 1st round picks to that MTL trade.
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    Dec 20, 2019 at 5:12
    #8
    Joined: May 2016
    Posts: 2,493
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    Quoting: AFOX10900
    Bc quick has one of the worst contracts in the league and has been a bottom 3 goalie in the league the past two years while Murray has at least been close to average and is like 10 years younger...


    The Kings have their goaltending pipeline set for at least the next 8-10 years, with Petersen ready to take the reins as early as this season's trade deadline. They have no need of Matt Murray.

    Quick has actually been exceptional lately and earning that hefty contract of his. He had an abysmal start to the season, but look at his numbers over the past 6-7 weeks.

    https://www.nhl.com/player/jonathan-quick-8471734?stats=splits-r-nhl&season=20192020

    OCT: 4.55 GAA, .858 SV%
    NOV: 2.42 GAA, .906 SV%
    DEC: 2.14 GAA, .926 SV%

    While they might explore some trade opportunities over the next couple years, they're definitely not going to pay to get rid of him. It's most likely that he will finish out his contract (and likely his career) in a Kings uniform, unless Seattle decides to take him in the expansion draft.

    Likewise, Carter has been really good lately, currently working on a 5-game point streak. He and Kopitar were the best players on the ice the other night in the Kings unlikely win against Boston.

    Toffoli will likely be traded this season, but they're looking for teenage prospects and draft picks, not guys in their mid-20s. This trade does not make the Kings better in the long term.
    Dec 20, 2019 at 5:21
    #9
    Joined: Jun 2018
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    Quoting: tkecanuck341
    The Kings have their goaltending pipeline set for at least the next 8-10 years, with Petersen ready to take the reins as early as this season's trade deadline. They have no need of Matt Murray.

    Quick has actually been exceptional lately and earning that hefty contract of his. He had an abysmal start to the season, but look at his numbers over the past 6-7 weeks.

    https://www.nhl.com/player/jonathan-quick-8471734?stats=splits-r-nhl&season=20192020

    OCT: 4.55 GAA, .858 SV%
    NOV: 2.42 GAA, .906 SV%
    DEC: 2.14 GAA, .926 SV%

    While they might explore some trade opportunities over the next couple years, they're definitely not going to pay to get rid of him. It's most likely that he will finish out his contract (and likely his career) in a Kings uniform, unless Seattle decides to take him in the expansion draft.

    Likewise, Carter has been really good lately, currently working on a 5-game point streak. He and Kopitar were the best players on the ice the other night in the Kings unlikely win against Boston.

    Toffoli will likely be traded this season, but they're looking for teenage prospects and draft picks, not guys in their mid-20s. This trade does not make the Kings better in the long term.


    So bc he's played one good month in the past two years he's worth 5mil or whatever he makes... That makes up for having a bottom 3-5 GSAA, GSAx, (which ik Murray isn't good in this year either, but he's been historically average) and hdSV%... And idk much about Carter, but I would assume you'd want to trade him for some younger assets, and the general value I've seen around toffoli is like a second and low-mid level spec...
    Dec 20, 2019 at 5:28
    #10
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    Quoting: AFOX10900
    So bc he's played one good month in the past two years he's worth 5mil or whatever he makes... That makes up for having a bottom 3-5 GSAA, GSAx, (which ik Murray isn't good in this year either, but he's been historically average) and hdSV%... And idk much about Carter, but I would assume you'd want to trade him for some younger assets, and the general value I've seen around toffoli is like a second and low-mid level spec...


    No because he won 2 cups he’s worth 5 million bucks. He wasn’t given that contract this summer he already had it. I don’t think any of those teams go for that. And if the pens did trade Murray they wouldn’t want quick back as a 5 million dollar backup. Because if they trade Murray that means they are convinced Jarry is the new starter. I think Carter and quick will stick around unless it’s for a package of picks and Toffoli will prob be dealt for picks
    Dec 20, 2019 at 5:40
    #11
    Joined: May 2016
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    Quoting: AFOX10900
    So bc he's played one good month in the past two years he's worth 5mil or whatever he makes... That makes up for having a bottom 3-5 GSAA, GSAx, (which ik Murray isn't good in this year either, but he's been historically average) and hdSV%... And idk much about Carter, but I would assume you'd want to trade him for some younger assets, and the general value I've seen around toffoli is like a second and low-mid level spec...


    Quick has bad numbers because the team has been terrible in front of him. The team has been better lately, and Quick has been standing on his head to help them steal several games that they shouldn't. I'm not saying he's the Quick of 5 years ago, but he's definitely not a Quick that you pay to get rid of either.

    The Kings will actively pursue trading all of those guys, Quick included. That doesn't mean they're going to take back guys that don't help the team's rebuild at all just to dump them.

    Replace the guys in this trade with a couple 2nds and some B-quality expansion draft prospects (Hallander, Bellerive, PO Joseph) and the Kings might go for it.
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    Dec 20, 2019 at 5:41
    #12
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    The Montreal trade is worse


    Read the LA Pitt trade *face palm*

    moves onto Habs trade *face through desk*
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    Dec 20, 2019 at 6:24
    #13
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    Pitt getting Gallagher for a pile of garbage would be nice.
    Dec 20, 2019 at 7:09
    #14
    MAXimum DOMInation
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    Ha lol that MTL trade

    Gallagher > All those guys so why add Drouin
    Dec 20, 2019 at 8:10
    #15
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    Quoting: tkecanuck341
    Quick has bad numbers because the team has been terrible in front of him. The team has been better lately, and Quick has been standing on his head to help them steal several games that they shouldn't. I'm not saying he's the Quick of 5 years ago, but he's definitely not a Quick that you pay to get rid of either.

    The Kings will actively pursue trading all of those guys, Quick included. That doesn't mean they're going to take back guys that don't help the team's rebuild at all just to dump them.

    Replace the guys in this trade with a couple 2nds and some B-quality expansion draft prospects (Hallander, Bellerive, PO Joseph) and the Kings might go for it.


    Agree completely Both the kings goalies were left out to dry the beginning of this year. You could tell the team was running around not sure of themselves and their positioning. As the team has played better the goaltending has got better. Quick had a sub par year last year but he looks much better this year. Everyone has down years, goalies just get blown up more when they do. This team looks so much better this year. As they get the new system down they look like a completely different team from last year.
     
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