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backup options at what cost tho

Created by: AJM2466
Initial Creation Date: Dec 21, 2019
Published: Dec 21, 2019 at 4:11 pm
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Trades
TOR
  1. Campbell, Jack
LAK
    cost?
    TOR
    1. Stalock, Alex
    MIN
      cost?
      TOR
      1. Bernier, Jonathan ($1,500,000 retained)
      DET
        cost
        TOR
        1. Domingue, Louis
        NJD
          c
          TOR
          1. Miller, Ryan
          ANA
            c
            TOR
            1. Georgiev, Alexandar
            NYR
              c
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              • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
              Retained Salary Transactions
              • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
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              TOR
              TOR
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              TOR
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              ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
              26$81,500,000$84,149,643$0$1,402,500-$2,649,643
              Left WingCenterRight Wing
              TOR
              Hyman, Zach
              $2,250,000
              LW
              NTC
              UFA - 2
              TOR
              Tavares, John
              $11,000,000
              C
              NMC
              UFA - 6
              TOR
              Marner, Mitchell
              $10,893,000
              RW
              UFA - 6
              TOR
              Nylander, William
              $6,962,366
              RW, C
              UFA - 5
              TOR
              Matthews, Auston
              $11,634,000
              C
              UFA - 5
              TOR
              Kapanen, Kasperi
              $3,200,000
              RW
              RFA - 3
              TOR
              Engvall, Pierre
              $925,000
              LW, RW
              RFA - 1
              TOR
              Kerfoot, Alexander
              $3,500,000
              C, LW
              UFA - 4
              TOR
              Mikheyev, Ilya
              $925,000
              LW, RW
              RFA - 1
              TOR
              Timashov, Dmytro
              $694,444
              LW
              RFA - 1
              TOR
              Gauthier, Frédérik
              $675,000
              C
              RFA - 1
              TOR
              Moore, Trevor
              $775,000
              RW, LW
              RFA - 2
              Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
              TOR
              Muzzin, Jake
              $4,000,000
              LD
              UFA - 1
              TOR
              Barrie, Tyson
              $2,750,000
              RD
              UFA - 1
              TOR
              Andersen, Frederik
              $5,000,000
              G
              NTC
              UFA - 2
              TOR
              Rielly, Morgan
              $5,000,000
              LD
              UFA - 3
              TOR
              Holl, Justin
              $675,000
              RD
              UFA - 1
              LAK
              Campbell, Jack
              $675,000
              G
              UFA - 1
              TOR
              Dermott, Travis
              $863,333
              LD
              RFA - 1
              TOR
              Ceci, Cody
              $4,500,000
              RD
              UFA - 1
              MIN
              Stalock, Alex
              $785,000
              G
              UFA - 3
              DET
              Bernier, Jonathan
              $1,500,000
              G
              UFA - 2
              NJD
              Domingue, Louis
              $1,150,000
              G
              UFA - 1
              ANA
              Miller, Ryan
              $1,125,000
              G
              NTC
              UFA - 1
              NYR
              Georgiev, Alexandar
              $792,500
              G
              RFA - 1
              ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
              TOR
              Spezza, Jason
              $700,000
              C, RW
              NTC
              UFA - 1
              TOR
              Horton, Nathan
              $5,300,000
              RW
              NMC NTC
              UFA - 1
              TOR
              Clarkson, David
              $5,250,000
              RW
              NMC NTC
              UFA - 1
              TOR
              Johnsson, Andreas
              $3,400,000
              LW
              UFA - 4

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              Dec 21, 2019 at 4:15
              #1
              Jack
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              Stalock and bernier arent anything special, a marginal upgrade over hutch at best. Stalock is really overrated
              Dec 21, 2019 at 4:18
              #2
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              If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
              Dec 21, 2019 at 4:25
              #3
              Thread Starter
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              Quoting: leaflet
              If you have to ask, you can't afford it.


              that's probably the stupidest thing I've heard. All i want is honest answers. man, leafs can't afford domingue? damn, we should've saved our first for him. get off the site you bum.
              Dec 21, 2019 at 4:27
              #4
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              howard , we will retain and take hutch for a 3rd
              Dec 21, 2019 at 4:28
              #5
              Thread Starter
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              Quoting: Jack_
              Stalock and bernier arent anything special, a marginal upgrade over hutch at best. Stalock is really overrated


              just seem like some viable options. bernier didn't do so bad in the sick game, but i'd agree the retention and cost outweigh getting him for the most part. Stalock seems hard to get a judge on, but if he did put up numbers somewhat above .900-.905 on that contract, I wouldn't be disappointed. age being another factor for him but idk, just options.
              Dec 21, 2019 at 4:29
              #6
              Lenny7
              Joined: Jan 2017
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              Quoting: AJM2466
              that's probably the stupidest thing I've heard. All i want is honest answers. man, leafs can't afford domingue? damn, we should've saved our first for him. get off the site you bum.


              I mean, given their cap issues, it's not insane to think that you probably actually can't afford Domingue...
              Dec 21, 2019 at 4:31
              #7
              Thread Starter
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              Quoting: Lenny7
              I mean, given their cap issues, it's not insane to think that you probably actually can't afford Domingue...


              I have a strong feeling Ceci and/or a forward like johnsson or kapanen are traded at some point. even ceci retained would allow for a goalie between 1-2 million.
              Dec 21, 2019 at 4:38
              #8
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              3rd

              5th

              3rd

              6th

              Doubt it

              Forget it. Rangers said they are not moving him.
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              Dec 21, 2019 at 4:49
              #9
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              Quoting: AJM2466
              I have a strong feeling Ceci and/or a forward like johnsson or kapanen are traded at some point. even ceci retained would allow for a goalie between 1-2 million.


              Yeah I'm sure it would but as this ACGM stands, cap wise doesn't work. I think that was original point.
              Dec 21, 2019 at 4:55
              #10
              KovalchukFor2RDP
              Joined: Feb 2019
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              Campbell not getting traded
              Stalock for, I don't know, 6th or seventh? based off
              Quoting: Jack_
              Stalock is really overrated

              Bernier and a 4th or 3rd for Kappy
              Dominigue prob not going anywhere due to Schneider situatiion
              Miller for 4th
              Georgiev and 6th for Kappy
              Dec 21, 2019 at 4:56
              #11
              LongtimeLeafsufferer
              Joined: Jul 2015
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              Bernier is Wings starter now and maybe year. Campbell has been extended for two years, Kings have no motivation to move him. Likely Miller ain't waiving his NTC. Domique is injured and is really that good? Georgiev. suppose Rangers have the summer to figure out their goaltending situation and their shaky cap situation.
              I know there is fascination one cap Friendly about moving Ceci. Well the Leafs can't move him unless they have an NHL Dman to take his place.
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              Dec 21, 2019 at 5:01
              #12
              Jack
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              Quoting: AJM2466
              just seem like some viable options. bernier didn't do so bad in the sick game, but i'd agree the retention and cost outweigh getting him for the most part. Stalock seems hard to get a judge on, but if he did put up numbers somewhat above .900-.905 on that contract, I wouldn't be disappointed. age being another factor for him but idk, just options.


              The way Minnesota plays is only defense. They are one of the beat teams at not allowing cross ice passes, just like the kings when they won the cup and were ein their prime. The reason Minnesota is bad is because they cant score an their goalies arent that great.

              Pretty much the hardest shot to stop are ones after a cross ice pass, especially like a 2 on 1. As a goalie you have to respect the shot but you also have to respect the pass, the same can be said for a regular shift in the DZ. You have to be careful of the backdoor pass along with the shot. Minnesota almost takes the passing option away completely so stalock is really only facing head on shots that hes ready for. To have that low of a sv% isnt that good is alarming. While Minnesota isn't good anymore they still have great structure under Bruce Boudreau. Quick was the same way in LA. He only faced shots head on and LA was one of the best teams at clearing rebounds so quick put up really good numbers, once LA fell off you can see that quick's numbers were a product of LA's system.

              I have no reason to believe that stalock can be any better then hutch playing if he were to play behind the leafs system. If he is only a .905ish goalie playing in minny facing easier shots I find it hard to believe he can be good in a system that doeant takeaway the passing lane or the shot very often.
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              Dec 21, 2019 at 5:11
              #13
              get off my lawn...
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              Quoting: Gofnut999
              3rd

              5th

              3rd

              6th

              Doubt it

              Forget it. Rangers said they are not moving him.


              Probably another 10 or so options that aren’t being touched on. Including keeping hutch.
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              Dec 21, 2019 at 5:15
              #14
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              Quoting: AJM2466
              that's probably the stupidest thing I've heard. All i want is honest answers. man, leafs can't afford domingue? damn, we should've saved our first for him. get off the site you bum.


              The stupidest people are those who can't understand meaning properly on the internet.
              Dec 21, 2019 at 5:41
              #15
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              Quoting: leaflet
              The stupidest people are those who can't understand meaning properly on the internet.


              nah, what you said was vague. I established cost being what the trade would be, not if we could afford cap-wise. Maybe you should specify. love your tanev retained for barrie agm trade saying he'd likely sign as UFA because hes a BC native, when they can just get him for free after this season. only a genius could come up with that. stay smart kiddo.
               
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