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Lets say muzz gets suspended

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for defending himself too hard. Lets assume he is gone for 2/3 games..
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Dec. 22, 2019 at 8:17 a.m.
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You know the dops is bad when there is statistical evidence of bias in the way they hand out suspensions. Leafs are the least suspended against team in the league and the last (and only) suspension of the Parros era was Andrew ferrence in 2013 for an elbow on GRABO!

So yeah I fully expect muzz to get 3 and aa to not even get a call even though aa was clear intent to injure while muzz was clearly not. Dops is a joke. They don't care about consitancy, they don't care about player safety (overall number of yearly suspensions went down since shanny left), and they are biased against Toronto and MTL.

Amazing the NHL seems okay with this
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Dec. 22, 2019 at 8:28 a.m.
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Utter BS if he would even get a hearing.....
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Dec. 22, 2019 at 8:37 a.m.
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Suspended? He just got invited to WrestleMania.
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Dec. 22, 2019 at 9:01 a.m.
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Suspended? He just got invited to WrestleMania.


Mantha poked him first and then Mantha actually had leverage in the initial head lock. I'm surprised that Muzzin could leverage himself and get the take down of the bigger Mantha.
How did Leafs get a double minor on that play and Mantha only a minor? Dermot was right, terrible officiating on the penalties allocation.
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Dec. 22, 2019 at 9:48 a.m.
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If Muzzin gets suspended there should be a full scale investigation into the corrupt state of the D.O.P.S. It has been broken for years and there judgments are random and arbitrary. I'm not just saying that because I am a Leafs fan, I am saying it because the system is flawed. That was an absolute garbage display of refereeing last night and it seems to be accepted as status quo. It is quite frankly a joke.
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Dec. 22, 2019 at 10:30 a.m.
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My beer league refs are generally better than last night's , Muzz shouldn't even get a phone call, AA should at least get fined, game is all but done and he runs a guy? Hey AA your minus 407 for a reason
Dec. 22, 2019 at 11:26 a.m.
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AA deserves a fine, but in the grand scheme of things nothing really came out of his. Muzzin, on the other hand, grabbed Mantha's face, slew footed him and slammed him to the ice with the head and neck being the main point of contact, and there was a serious injury resulting from the play. Muzzin 100% deserves a suspension, and anyone who says otherwise is a bias Leafs fan. Everyone that is neither a Red Wings or Leafs fan that has commented on this agrees. Sorry Leafs podcaster with 700 twitter followers that has "general hockey talk" in your bio, you dont count. I understand Mantha started it, and had Muzzin in a headlock. Hockey players get put in headlocks every night, and yet nobody else get slew footed and slammed to the ice. Dirty play, hope he gets suspended as long as Mantha is concussed.
Dec. 22, 2019 at 11:46 a.m.
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Just because Mantha started it doesn't excuse him taking Mantha's legs out and driving his head into the ice.

I will say what Athanasiou did was much worse, and definitely deserving of a lengthy suspension.
Dec. 22, 2019 at 11:56 a.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
Just because Mantha started it doesn't excuse him taking Mantha's legs out and driving his head into the ice.

I will say what Athanasiou did was much worse, and definitely deserving of a lengthy suspension.


Mantha also had him in headlock and punched him in the face with gloves on couple of times prior to Muzzin flipping out.
Dec. 22, 2019 at 12:18 p.m.
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Mantha also had him in headlock and punched him in the face with gloves on couple of times prior to Muzzin flipping out.


And he got a penalty for it. That doesn't justify what Muzzin did. What Muzzin did was unbelievably dangerous.

If he took exception to what Mantha did, then by all means drop the gloves, but leave the piledrivers for the Undertaker.
Dec. 22, 2019 at 1:09 p.m.
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AA deserves a fine, but in the grand scheme of things nothing really came out of his. Muzzin, on the other hand, grabbed Mantha's face, slew footed him and slammed him to the ice with the head and neck being the main point of contact, and there was a serious injury resulting from the play. Muzzin 100% deserves a suspension, and anyone who says otherwise is a bias Leafs fan. Everyone that is neither a Red Wings or Leafs fan that has commented on this agrees. Sorry Leafs podcaster with 700 twitter followers that has "general hockey talk" in your bio, you dont count. I understand Mantha started it, and had Muzzin in a headlock. Hockey players get put in headlocks every night, and yet nobody else get slew footed and slammed to the ice. Dirty play, hope he gets suspended as long as Mantha is concussed.


Did he winked into a camera also inbetween ? I mean comeon....slew footed him and point his neck into the ice....you kids need to stop playing Tekken 5 on your PS.....they were in a fckn clinch, Mantha was all over him and if Muzzin is able to throw a bigger guy away from him like a feather....you really need to start watching art skating.....
Dec. 22, 2019 at 3:50 p.m.
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Did he winked into a camera also inbetween ? I mean comeon....slew footed him and point his neck into the ice....you kids need to stop playing Tekken 5 on your PS.....they were in a fckn clinch, Mantha was all over him and if Muzzin is able to throw a bigger guy away from him like a feather....you really need to start watching art skating.....


I'll link you a video if you want
Dec. 25, 2019 at 9:08 a.m.
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You know the dops is bad when there is statistical evidence of bias in the way they hand out suspensions. Leafs are the least suspended against team in the league and the last (and only) suspension of the Parros era was Andrew ferrence in 2013 for an elbow on GRABO!

So yeah I fully expect muzz to get 3 and aa to not even get a call even though aa was clear intent to injure while muzz was clearly not. Dops is a joke. They don't care about consitancy, they don't care about player safety (overall number of yearly suspensions went down since shanny left), and they are biased against Toronto and MTL.

Amazing the NHL seems okay with this


LOL, god leaf fans over react and think the world is against them.
Dec. 25, 2019 at 10:00 a.m.
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LOL, god leaf fans over react and think the world is against them.


Dude. There is actual evidence. And as we all know leafs fans are always talking about how hard the Habs have it. This isn't just a 'it seems like'. It is almost like I wrote the previous comment in a way to show that, but you seem illiterate so il post you a picture.

Parros' career was ended by a leaf and he has proceeded to suspend leafs more and suspend against leafs far less than other teams.


Read this thread: or don't and keep you blinders on.
https://mobile.twitter.com/EarlSchwartz27/status/1207371905667391489
Dec. 25, 2019 at 5:40 p.m.
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Dude. There is actual evidence. And as we all know leafs fans are always talking about how hard the Habs have it. This isn't just a 'it seems like'. It is almost like I wrote the previous comment in a way to show that, but you seem illiterate so il post you a picture.

Parros' career was ended by a leaf and he has proceeded to suspend leafs more and suspend against leafs far less than other teams.


Read this thread: or don't and keep you blinders on.
https://mobile.twitter.com/EarlSchwartz27/status/1207371905667391489


Oh I forgot the league is against the leafs... Even though the leafs are top 10 minor PIMS... LOL but keep the excuses going to why the leafs arnt succeeding.
Dec. 25, 2019 at 5:41 p.m.
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Dude. There is actual evidence. And as we all know leafs fans are always talking about how hard the Habs have it. This isn't just a 'it seems like'. It is almost like I wrote the previous comment in a way to show that, but you seem illiterate so il post you a picture.

Parros' career was ended by a leaf and he has proceeded to suspend leafs more and suspend against leafs far less than other teams.


Read this thread: or don't and keep you blinders on.
https://mobile.twitter.com/EarlSchwartz27/status/1207371905667391489


And if the league does hate the leafs... Why didnt Muzzin get suspended like you predicted?
Dec. 25, 2019 at 6:05 p.m.
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Oh I forgot the league is against the leafs... Even though the leafs are top 10 minor PIMS... LOL but keep the excuses going to why the leafs arnt succeeding.


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And if the league does hate the leafs... Why didnt Muzzin get suspended like you predicted?


You didn't actually read it did you?
Dec. 25, 2019 at 10:04 p.m.
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You didn't actually read it did you?


I did lmao.. youre an absolute clown who only watches the Leafs and the leafs only
Dec. 25, 2019 at 10:36 p.m.
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I did lmao.. youre an absolute clown who only watches the Leafs and the leafs only


So no, you didn't then. Unless you think statistical evidence is being biased.
Dec. 31, 2019 at 7:08 p.m.
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So no, you didn't then. Unless you think statistical evidence is being biased.


Show me every dirty hit on the leafs where it got suspended...

You legit are so ****ing bias it hurts and cry after every play, you are the typical leaf fan every other fan base hates
Dec. 31, 2019 at 7:11 p.m.
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Show me every dirty hit on the leafs where it got suspended...

You legit are so ****ing bias it hurts and cry after every play, you are the typical leaf fan every other fan base hates


I think you mean every dirty hit that didn't get suspended?

Well recently the Okposo hit, debrusk's crap from game 2 just off the top of my head, but read the thread I linked. It literally has the numbers that prove it. You refuse to read it and call me biased?!?! I'm doing all the work for you and even then you are either too lazy or too stupid to look for yourself.
Jan. 1, 2020 at 2:53 p.m.
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I think you mean every dirty hit that didn't get suspended?

Well recently the Okposo hit, debrusk's crap from game 2 just off the top of my head, but read the thread I linked. It literally has the numbers that prove it. You refuse to read it and call me biased?!?! I'm doing all the work for you and even then you are either too lazy or too stupid to look for yourself.


Buddy there is no numbers to back up dirty hits.... Its not black and white brother every hit is different sorry your so butt hurt. As if suspensions on another team has any effect on the leafs anyways in the Regular season
Jan. 1, 2020 at 4:18 p.m.
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Buddy there is no numbers to back up dirty hits.... Its not black and white brother every hit is different sorry your so butt hurt. As if suspensions on another team has any effect on the leafs anyways in the Regular season


You are honestly hopeless...
Jan. 2, 2020 at 11:51 a.m.
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You are honestly hopeless...


League hates the leafs, yet they won the Draft lottery... I guess you just like picking and choosing when the league doesnt want the leafs to succeed. Next youre gonna complain how the leafs dont get enough powerplays.
Jan. 2, 2020 at 12:36 p.m.
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League hates the leafs, yet they won the Draft lottery... I guess you just like picking and choosing when the league doesnt want the leafs to succeed. Next youre gonna complain how the leafs dont get enough powerplays.


Funny you mention that. It is a league wide problem. PPs and PKs are correlated 1:1. That means that refs aren't calling the game, but are rather managing it. It means that a dirty team will get away with all sorts of crap if they are playing a clean team who doesn't take penalties because refs only call penalties if they are close to even. The leafs are a clean team, so yes they don't get enough pp calls. There are plenty of other teams in the same category.

Again, you are just showing your hate for the leafs here. There are actual problems with the league I am bringing up and you are trying to just wave them away.
 
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