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Radulov

Created by: jslongo
Initial Creation Date: Dec 22, 2019
Published: Dec 23, 2019 at 7:53 am
Team: 2019-20 Dallas Stars
Team Explanation
I know its a lot to pay, but I dont think Dallas is open to moving him.. Coming from Canes standpoint
Trades
DAL
  1. Niederreiter, Nino
  2. van Riemsdyk, Trevor
  3. 2020 1st round pick (TOR)
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (NYR)
Additional Details:
2nd turns to First if the Canes make it to the Cup Final
CAR
  1. Radulov, Alexander ($1,000,000 retained)
  2. Hintz, Roope
Buyouts
  • Valeri Nichushkin: $700,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Alexander Radulov: $1,000,000 (16%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
DAL
TOR
NYR
DAL
DAL
DAL
2021
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
2022
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$82,912,498$932,500$5,600,000-$1,412,498
Left WingCenterRight Wing
DAL
Benn, Jamie
$9,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
DAL
Seguin, Tyler
$9,850,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
DAL
Pavelski, Joe
$7,000,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 3
CAR
Niederreiter, Nino
$5,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
DAL
Hanzal, Martin
$4,750,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
DAL
Perry, Corey
$1,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 1
DAL
Gurianov, Denis
$894,166
LW
RFA - 1
DAL
Faksa, Radek
$2,200,000
C
RFA - 1
DAL
Comeau, Blake
$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
DAL
Cogliano, Andrew
$3,250,000
LW, RW, C
NTC
UFA - 2
DAL
Dickinson, Jason
$1,500,000
C
RFA - 2
DAL
Janmark, Mattias
$2,300,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
DAL
Dowling, Justin
$750,000
C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
DAL
Heiskanen, Miro
$894,166
LD
RFA - 2
DAL
Klingberg, John
$4,250,000
RD
UFA - 3
DAL
Bishop, Ben
$4,916,666
G
NMC
UFA - 4
DAL
Lindell, Esa
$5,800,000
LD
UFA - 6
CAR
van Riemsdyk, Trevor
$2,300,000
RD
UFA - 1
DAL
Khudobin, Anton
$2,500,000
G
UFA - 1
DAL
Oleksiak, Jamie
$2,137,500
LD
UFA - 2
DAL
Polák, Roman
$1,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
DAL
Sekera, Andrej
$1,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
DAL
Johns, Stephen
$2,350,000
RD
UFA - 2
DAL
Fedun, Taylor
$737,500
RD
UFA - 2

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Dec 23, 2019 at 7:57
#1
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I think Carolina take that IMO
Dec 23, 2019 at 8:38
#2
MisstheWhalers
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There's no way Dallas is trading Hintz in that deal, so much over shooting on CapFriendly!
Dec 23, 2019 at 9:05
#3
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Lol they arent moving roope at all. Hes a dynamic young player and they need young pieces.
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Dec 23, 2019 at 9:33
#4
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know its an overpay? from who the canes? thats an underpay on the canes. significant underpay. hintz is starting to look really really good and radulov isnt bad himself just isnt what the team needs right now.
Dec 23, 2019 at 10:14
#5
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Canes Baby
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Quoting: hanson493
know its an overpay? from who the canes? thats an underpay on the canes. significant underpay. hintz is starting to look really really good and radulov isnt bad himself just isnt what the team needs right now.


The possible 2 1st round picks are what im looking at. This is a REALLY deep draft and those 1sts, could be someone special.
Dec 23, 2019 at 10:16
#6
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Why the hell is Dallas selling? Lol...I'm not even a Stars fan and there is a zero chance they move Hintz.

Quoting: jslongo
The possible 2 1st round picks are what im looking at. This is a REALLY deep draft and those 1sts, could be someone special.


One of those draft picks could be great! We might even get a guy like Roope Hintz!

This whole thread just smacks of a guy that only watches Eastern Conference hockey and has no idea how good some of the guys in the West like Hintz actually are.
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Dec 23, 2019 at 10:17
#7
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Quoting: jslongo
The possible 2 1st round picks are what im looking at. This is a REALLY deep draft and those 1sts, could be someone special.


the difference between where that rangers pick is and where that carolina pick would end up if they made the stanley cup isnt that significant a difference to label this an overpay. hintz will be more impactful to the stars than either player those picks end up being.
Dec 23, 2019 at 11:03
#8
New Star Rising
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Hanzal is playing
Dec 23, 2019 at 11:08
#9
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Canes Baby
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Quoting: hanson493
the difference between where that rangers pick is and where that carolina pick would end up if they made the stanley cup isnt that significant a difference to label this an overpay. hintz will be more impactful to the stars than either player those picks end up being.


Its kind of ignorant to say that Hintz is guaranteed to be better than 2 first round players that haven't even been picked yet.

I totally get what you are saying, but if you do some research to this draft, you may change your mind!
Dec 23, 2019 at 11:36
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Quoting: jslongo
Its kind of ignorant to say that Hintz is guaranteed to be better than 2 first round players that haven't even been picked yet.

I totally get what you are saying, but if you do some research to this draft, you may change your mind!


Ive done research. where do you expect these first round picks to fall is the question. Your condition on the 2nd being a first is if they make it to the scf. so that pick is automatically 30 or 31. Torontos pick could be a top 10 pick which means its protected. torontos pick could also be 31 (HIGHLY DOUBTFUL) but that would be the ultimate worst case scenario right? Hintz is having a similar year to 27 year old nino. radulov is outproducing tvr. I literally dont see the value you are preaching here. I dont think nino is anything special. TVR is a 28 year old 6/7th dman. radulov and hintz are both top 6 players. hintz is 23 and cost controlled. the depth in this draft is good dont get me wrong but after pick 20 the depth kind of drops off. Im impartial but if im dallas there is no scenario where i trade hintz unless its a top 5 pick this year guaranteed.
Dec 23, 2019 at 12:14
#11
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Quoting: hanson493
Ive done research. where do you expect these first round picks to fall is the question. Your condition on the 2nd being a first is if they make it to the scf. so that pick is automatically 30 or 31. Torontos pick could be a top 10 pick which means its protected. torontos pick could also be 31 (HIGHLY DOUBTFUL) but that would be the ultimate worst case scenario right? Hintz is having a similar year to 27 year old nino. radulov is outproducing tvr. I literally dont see the value you are preaching here. I dont think nino is anything special. TVR is a 28 year old 6/7th dman. radulov and hintz are both top 6 players. hintz is 23 and cost controlled. the depth in this draft is good dont get me wrong but after pick 20 the depth kind of drops off. Im impartial but if im dallas there is no scenario where i trade hintz unless its a top 5 pick this year guaranteed.


Radulov out producing a Dman on a loaded D core?... well obviously!... TvR is top 4 on most teams ( definitely top 4 in Dallas, which they do need to upgrade the right side.)

Also lets be honest here. Do we really think Dallas is going to come anywhere near a cup in the next 5 years? I would start loading up now if i were them.

And you are right about the 1sts.. It doesnt matter where they fall between 15-31, because the draft is loaded and you cant go wrong with any pick.
Dec 23, 2019 at 12:28
#12
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Quoting: jslongo
Radulov out producing a Dman on a loaded D core?... well obviously!... TvR is top 4 on most teams ( definitely top 4 in Dallas, which they do need to upgrade the right side.)

Also lets be honest here. Do we really think Dallas is going to come anywhere near a cup in the next 5 years? I would start loading up now if i were them.

And you are right about the 1sts.. It doesnt matter where they fall between 15-31, because the draft is loaded and you cant go wrong with any pick.


I love when people say this... if he was a top 4 on "most teams" they would have traded him for a top 4 return already or would actually be using him in a top 4 role instead of paying him to be a 6th/7th dman. as a canes fan you are overvaluing your players. thats fine, we all do it. but this trade isnt good for dallas at all.
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Dec 23, 2019 at 12:44
#13
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Canes Baby
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Quoting: hanson493
I love when people say this... if he was a top 4 on "most teams" they would have traded him for a top 4 return already or would actually be using him in a top 4 role instead of paying him to be a 6th/7th dman. as a canes fan you are overvaluing your players. thats fine, we all do it. but this trade isnt good for dallas at all.


That not how this works... Just because you have a player doesnt mean you need to trade him.. Canes could go into the playoffs with 7 dmen.. it would just make more sense for them to trade him to better the offense. Also, not going to get t4 value on an expiring contract.

Also I am not over valuing .. you are under valuing a player you probably haven't watched once since he was traded from Chicago.

But hey, if you dont like the trade, so be it... ill keep the firsts lmao
Dec 23, 2019 at 1:17
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Quoting: jslongo
Also lets be honest here. Do we really think Dallas is going to come anywhere near a cup in the next 5 years? I would start loading up now if i were them.


Reason why randos from CF aren't NHL GMs #4237.

I guess it is a very Canes thing to like the "suck for 15 years and then go all-in for a cup" strategy though.
Dec 23, 2019 at 1:53
#15
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I think Carolina take that IMO


I would HOPE Carolina takes this and runs LMFAO
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Dec 23, 2019 at 2:32
#16
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Canes Baby
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Quoting: suburbanrobot
Reason why randos from CF aren't NHL GMs #4237.

I guess it is a very Canes thing to like the "suck for 15 years and then go all-in for a cup" strategy though.


Quoting: suburbanrobot
Reason why randos from CF aren't NHL GMs #4237.

I guess it is a very Canes thing to like the "suck for 15 years and then go all-in for a cup" strategy though.


Lmao, seriously though, Id bet my life that Dallas doesnt win a cup in the next 10 years. Benn and Seguin wont get one in their Career unless they are traded!
Dec 23, 2019 at 2:43
#17
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Canes Baby
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Quoting: suburbanrobot
Why the hell is Dallas selling? Lol...I'm not even a Stars fan and there is a zero chance they move Hintz.



One of those draft picks could be great! We might even get a guy like Roope Hintz!

This whole thread just smacks of a guy that only watches Eastern Conference hockey and has no idea how good some of the guys in the West like Hintz actually are.


You are correct I do not watch a lot of the West.

When making this trade, I look at moves like the Colorado-Toronto Trade with Barrie and Kerfoot. At the time of Trade you could value them @ Barrie > Radulov and Kerfoot > Hintz

All toronto had to give up was Kadri and they got Barrie with cap retention.

So thats where I get this value from.
 
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