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Caufield Debrincat Gaudreau

Created by: Tiekv
Initial Creation Date: Dec 23, 2019
Published: Dec 23, 2019 at 5:29
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
Caufield = Debrincat shot and Gaudreau skills
Buyouts
  • Steve Mason: $1,366,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Marco Scandella: $2,000,000 (50%)
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: $350,000 (50%)
Buried
  • Dale Weise: $1,275,000 ($2,350,000)
  • Keith Kinkaid: $675,000 ($1,750,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
ANA
SJS
WPG
MTL
FLA
MTL
CHI
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
28$81,500,000$77,796,308$0$4,060,000$3,703,692
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 4
MTL
Domi, Max
$3,150,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
MTL
Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
MTL
Weal, Jordan
$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
MTL
Barber, Riley
$700,000
RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$2,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
MTL
Thompson, Nate
$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Peca, Matthew
$1,300,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
MTL
Cousins, Nick
$1,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Poehling, Ryan
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 3
MTL
Vejdemo, Lukas
$792,500
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
MTL
Teasdale, Joël
$763,333
C
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 7
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Lindgren, Charlie
$750,000
G
UFA - 2
MTL
Reilly, Mike
$1,500,000
LD
UFA - 2
MTL
Folin, Christian
$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
MTL
Mete, Victor
$748,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
MTL
Fleury, Cale
$771,666
RD
RFA - 2

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Dec 23, 2019 at 5:32
#1
Joined: Feb 2018
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So essentially Caufield is a potential TOP5 player in the league in the future?

Classic Habs fan, overvaluing their prospects.
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Dec 23, 2019 at 5:33
#2
Log off the internet
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Comparing a player in college to Johnny Gaudreau
Dec 23, 2019 at 5:34
#3
Thread Starter
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Quoting: TheChief
So essentially Caufield is a potential TOP5 player in the league in the future?

Classic Habs fan, overvaluing their prospects.



Yes he’s futur 50 goals Guy and 100 pts guy
Dec 23, 2019 at 5:38
#4
Analytics are good
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Caufield is going to be a PP merch with a good shot.
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Dec 23, 2019 at 5:41
#5
exo2769
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Edited Dec 23, 2019 at 7:01
What's more impressive than 4 goals in a WJC warmup is 3 goals in your NHL debut, but Poehling hasn't scored since.

I'd be a little cautious with the prediction. I'll be 100% honest and admit I do think he was the steal of the draft because 15th was too low for that talent, but let's also go down the list of things he had going for him today.

It's juniors
It's team USA vs Germany
It's a warmup
He's on a line with Turcotte the #5 OA pick.
He's very familiar with Turcotte because they're line mates at Wisconsin so even THAT's going in his favor.

You are certainly allowed to be excited. I wish the Hawks were able to draft him (not with the #3OA...just have another pick) Just don't etch his name on the Hart yet.
Dec 23, 2019 at 5:47
#6
Molson beer is meh
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Quoting: exo2769
What's more impressive than 4 goals in a WJC warmup is 3 goals in your NHL debut, but Poehling hasn't scored since.

I'd be a little cautious with the prediction. I'll best 100% honest and admit I do think he was the steal of the draft because 15th was too low for that talent, but let's also go down the list of things he had going for him today.

It's juniors
It's team USA vs Germany
It's a warmup
He's on a line with Turcotte the #5 OA pick.
He's very familiar with Turcotte because they're line mates at Wisconsin so even THAT's going in his favor.

You are certainly allowed to be excited. I wish the Hawks were able to draft him (not with the #3OA...just have another pick) Just don't etch his name on the Hart yet.


I'm not disagreeing with you at all, but just a side note that Caufield and Turcotte aren't linemates in Wisconsin. They keep the freshman players separated. They do play together on the PP though.
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Dec 23, 2019 at 5:48
#7
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easy to forget how bad you guys overvalue your prospects
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Dec 23, 2019 at 6:07
#8
john_michael
Joined: Apr 2019
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Quoting: Hedman77
Comparing a player in college to Johnny Gaudreau


To be fair, he is having a quite similar freshman season than Johnny G. had when he was at Boston College so far.
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Dec 23, 2019 at 6:09
#9
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you are just all made that your team didn't take the little guy who will score in your net.
Stats talk about themselves, yess he had a player to pass him the puck so what? he will do more goal than a lot of majoritie of player anyway.
Dec 23, 2019 at 6:10
#10
john_michael
Joined: Apr 2019
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Quoting: TheChief
So essentially Caufield is a potential TOP5 player in the league in the future?

Classic Habs fan, overvaluing their prospects.



To be fair, neither of Gaudreau or Debrincat are top 5 in the league
Dec 23, 2019 at 6:15
#11
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 69
Likes: 16
Quoting: exo2769
What's more impressive than 4 goals in a WJC warmup is 3 goals in your NHL debut, but Poehling hasn't scored since.

I'd be a little cautious with the prediction. I'll best 100% honest and admit I do think he was the steal of the draft because 15th was too low for that talent, but let's also go down the list of things he had going for him today.

It's juniors
It's team USA vs Germany
It's a warmup
He's on a line with Turcotte the #5 OA pick.
He's very familiar with Turcotte because they're line mates at Wisconsin so even THAT's going in his favor.

You are certainly allowed to be excited. I wish the Hawks were able to draft him (not with the #3OA...just have another pick) Just don't etch his name on the Hart yet.


That's not the point, nobody who see his potential care about 4 goal. the important point his

He is better than other better player of his age
its very good for his confidence
he will ameliorate his skills
he gets better and better each day wherever he play
he is the ****ing shooter that the canadien do not have since kovalev
and all that for a 5'7 guy 163lbs

Turcotte or jack hughe and cole caufield cant be compareted for the simple reason that they didnt are the same style playeur, not at the same position but we will only can tell that have him 15th will be a stole
Dec 23, 2019 at 6:16
#12
Blah
Joined: Oct 2017
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Quoting: Tiekv
Yes he’s futur 50 goals Guy and 100 pts guy


Lol. More realistic guess is that he's going to be a 30 goal, 50-60 point player.
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Dec 23, 2019 at 6:17
#13
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Quoting: Mtlstanleyin2072
you are just all made that your team didn't take the little guy who will score in your net.
Stats talk about themselves, yess he had a player to pass him the puck so what? he will do more goal than a lot of majoritie of player anyway.


I'm a PIT fan... We had no shot at drafting him, and I'm still not high on him... We don't even know if his shot that can beat junior goalies is sustainable in the NHL...
Dec 23, 2019 at 6:22
#14
Joined: Jan 2019
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Quoting: TheChief
So essentially Caufield is a potential TOP5 player in the league in the future?

Classic Habs fan, overvaluing their prospects.


In a nutshell, some Habs fans are seeing Cole Caufield as tHe NeXt Maurice Rocket Richard. lmao
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Dec 23, 2019 at 6:23
#15
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Quoting: AFOX10900
I'm a PIT fan... We had no shot at drafting him, and I'm still not high on him... We don't even know if his shot that can beat junior goalies is sustainable in the NHL...


i agree with you that its very to speedly to tell that he will make 800 goal nhl in his career!
But hockey amateur, pro or whatever cant tell that wherever he go, he score goal. ushl, usdp, WHJ-17 and 18, ncaa and we will see whj-20 goal goal and goal. i dont remeber that people telling that mattews will be not good as people said but look the stats its same or better for scoring in caufield stats
( im not tryng to tell that caufield is a mattews before everyone cry)
Dec 23, 2019 at 6:43
#16
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Holy hyperbole
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Dec 23, 2019 at 6:49
#17
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Inb4 Caufield is Yakupov 2.0
Dec 23, 2019 at 7:11
#18
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Quoting: Mtlstanleyin2072
you are just all made that your team didn't take the little guy who will score in your net.
Stats talk about themselves, yess he had a player to pass him the puck so what? he will do more goal than a lot of majoritie of player anyway.


Is this even english
Dec 23, 2019 at 7:21
#19
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Quoting: papishark
Is this even english


Sorry yes im from montreal and i speak french not english. i do my best if you dont understand just.. dont read i dont know what to tell you
so no its not very even english
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Dec 23, 2019 at 7:34
#20
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Quoting: Mtlstanleyin2072
Sorry yes im from montreal and i speak french not english. i do my best if you dont understand just.. dont read i dont know what to tell you
so no its not very even english


Alright your off the hook for that then, but your still overrating him here
Dec 23, 2019 at 7:41
#21
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Quoting: papishark
Alright your off the hook for that then, but your still overrating him here


I dont think, like other, he will does 50 goal per year and a 100 point. but im sure he will be important part for the canadien. not necessary his first years. he will needs maybe an other years in ncaa and 2-3 years in nhl to become which kind of player he can becomes but im sure its not to much saying that he have a 40 goals 70-80 point season in his full potential.
Dec 23, 2019 at 9:02
#22
Billy739
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Quoting: TheChief
So essentially Caufield is a potential TOP5 player in the league in the future?

Classic Habs fan, overvaluing their prospects.


you're not wrong
but you're not right either

Caufields gonna be a star as its not every day that of the 1000's of players to compete in the WJC since Ovechkin's tournament setting 14 goals only Caufields tied that number . That was about 6 months after shattering Phil Kessel's USHL points record . Maybe he wont be top 5 consistently but he's got the skill to make top 20 for sure . For MTL though we're optimistic because Caufield produced well by Centers like keller and hugher but when he played with Poehling he hit new level of offense . (at worst he's a Gallagher at best he's a Kane )
Dec 24, 2019 at 6:02
#23
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His potential depend on his development and line mates. He is small, so he is more vulnerable to injuries and concussion. I don't wish him to be injured or a concussion

I would take the time needed to build him into a Gallagher 2.0 with skill if I was MTL GM, then is potential might be higher and for a longer period. He is probably work on adding muscles mass in the gym right now, the points on the ice are secondary (he is drafted). He need to prepare physically, they know already he can score goal.

Then when he is ready and played 1 full season (At least), we can compare Caufield potential to top NHL players
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Dec 24, 2019 at 10:28
#24
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Quoting: john_michael
To be fair, neither of Gaudreau or Debrincat are top 5 in the league


I meant that if there's a player that's a "fusion" of Gaudreau's skillset and Debrincat's shot, that would be a TOP5 player in this league.
Dec 24, 2019 at 10:29
#25
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Quoting: Tiekv
Yes he’s futur 50 goals Guy and 100 pts guy


Bwahahahahahahahaha you're completely delusional.

Caufield seems like poor man's Laine. Just way smaller.
 
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