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Zibanejad

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Team: 2019-20 Washington Capitals
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 24, 2019
Published: Dec. 24, 2019
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Description
Downgrade at 1C to add a pick and a prospect who might introduce some more puck movement to the third line?

If this is done well ahead of the deadline, the team has time to see whether Eller and Hagelin are able to get Andersson going. If not, they've scored cap space to rent a 3L for a 2nd. Andersson can head to the AHL for the year.
Trades
WSH
  1. Andersson, Lias
  2. Zibanejad, Mika
  3. 2020 1st round pick (NYR)
Additional Details:
Andersson gets the change of scenes he's requested, and NYR upgrades 1C.
NYR
  1. Clark, Kody
  2. Kuznetsov, Evgeny
  3. Pánik, Richard
  4. 2020 3rd round pick (ARI)
Additional Details:
Kuznetsov and Panarin together would be fun to watch. Panik could use a change of scenes. Clark's a lesser prospect to balance Andersson a bit.
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23$81,500,000$73,373,461$1,150,000$1,482,500$8,126,539
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C
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$5,166,667$5,166,667
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$3,350,000$3,350,000
LW
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C
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C, LW
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C
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LW, C
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C, RW
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G
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$2,345,000$2,345,000
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Dec. 24, 2019 at 7:41 p.m.
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I can't see NYR moving this years first...
Dec. 24, 2019 at 7:54 p.m.
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
I can't see NYR moving this years first...


Kuznetsov and Panarin together would be filthy, and ridiculously clutch. It's not a very valuable pick after the trade.
Dec. 24, 2019 at 7:57 p.m.
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I'm having trouble understanding the point of this trade? Are there issues I am unaware of or is it just an idea?
Dec. 24, 2019 at 7:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Eli
Kuznetsov and Panarin together would be filthy, and ridiculously clutch. It's not a very valuable pick after the trade.


Honestly, the difference between Zibanejad and Kuzy isn't even that major. Statistically Zibanejad is above Kuzy actually when it comes to this and last season, he has better P/GP. It wouldn't spark anything special, or make NYR significantly better.
Dec. 24, 2019 at 7:59 p.m.
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Honestly, the difference between Zibanejad and Kuzy isn't even that major. It wouldn't spark anything special, or make NYR significantly better.


I agree, Im not even sure there is a difference. This guy tends to favor the caps in all his deals
Dec. 24, 2019 at 8:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Bf3351
I'm having trouble understanding the point of this trade? Are there issues I am unaware of or is it just an idea?


I wouldn't know. Some Rags fan suggested Kuznetsov for Strome, 1st, and Andersson. Caps fans declined.

I'm just keeping the conversation going. I raised from Strome to Zib, and threw in Panik, Clark, and a 3rd.

The biggest issue I know of is that the Rangers traded for an 8M defenseman, signed a 10M wing, and are still in the same spot in the standings.

Quoting: shmoeman
I agree, Im not even sure there is a difference. This guy tends to favor the caps in all his deals


See above.

Quoting: BurgerBoss
Honestly, the difference between Zibanejad and Kuzy isn't even that major. Statistically Zibanejad is above Kuzy actually when it comes to this and last season, he has better P/GP. It wouldn't spark anything special, or make NYR significantly better.


Marian Gaborik used to just dominate at point/GP. Whatever happened to him?

Anyway, see above.
Dec. 24, 2019 at 8:32 p.m.
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I wouldn't know. Some Rags fan suggested Kuznetsov for Strome, 1st, and Andersson. Caps fans declined.

I'm just keeping the conversation going. I raised from Strome to Zib, and threw in Panik, Clark, and a 3rd.

The biggest issue I know of is that the Rangers traded for an 8M defenseman, signed a 10M wing, and are still in the same spot in the standings.



See above.



Marian Gaborik used to just dominate at point/GP. Whatever happened to him?

Anyway, see above.


Gaborik was older, got traded and got injured. That has literally nothing to do with anything.
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Dec. 24, 2019 at 8:53 p.m.
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Gaborik was older, got traded and got injured. That has literally nothing to do with anything.


I thought you were saying that Zib should get extra credit for missing games. My mistake. People used to say that about Gaborik, who played over 66 games in just six of 16 seasons.

Yeah, Zibanejad's p/gp is pretty closely trailing behind Panarin. Kuznetsov usually outscores Ovechkin (Kuznetsov led the Caps in points for their Cup win, and for them latest President's trophy). Between two division rivals built around two of the best Russian LW in the league, the center who speaks Russian could be more valuable than the one who speaks Swedish?
Dec. 24, 2019 at 9:02 p.m.
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I thought you were saying that Zib should get extra credit for missing games. My mistake. People used to say that about Gaborik, who played over 66 games in just six of 16 seasons.

Yeah, Zibanejad's p/gp is pretty closely trailing behind Panarin. Kuznetsov usually outscores Ovechkin (Kuznetsov led the Caps in points for their Cup win, and for them latest President's trophy). Between two division rivals built around two of the best Russian LW in the league, the center who speaks Russian could be more valuable than the one who speaks Swedish?


The ability of speaking language doesn't really change anything, and even if it did, NYR should consider keeping Zibanejad due to his ability of speaking Finnish. After all, their most important prospect, Kaapo Kakko, is Finnish.

NYR isn't looking to contend short-term. Their team is too weak. They should build through their youth, which makes keeping the pick essential.

Oh, and also one thing. That Strome+Andersson+1st for Kuzy isn't really a good offer, but it's far more fair than what you suggested. Changing Strome to Mika is extremely significant change, while adding a bottom-6 forward, a random prospect and a 3rd doesn't make real difference...
Dec. 24, 2019 at 9:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Eli
I wouldn't know. Some Rags fan suggested Kuznetsov for Strome, 1st, and Andersson. Caps fans declined.

I'm just keeping the conversation going. I raised from Strome to Zib, and threw in Panik, Clark, and a 3rd.

The biggest issue I know of is that the Rangers traded for an 8M defenseman, signed a 10M wing, and are still in the same spot in the standings.



See above.



Marian Gaborik used to just dominate at point/GP. Whatever happened to him?

Anyway, see above.


Injuries happened to Gaborik lmao. Bad comparison.
Dec. 24, 2019 at 9:19 p.m.
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Bigger issue might be the 2.5m cap difference in the two centres plus Panik going to the Rangers. Rangers going to enough cap issues next year.

Zib with less cap for Kutz with more cap, more term might be an even trade, especially if the Caps want cap.
Dec. 24, 2019 at 9:23 p.m.
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What exactly in this trade on the Capitals side is worth a cheap 1C in his prime and pick that will almost certainly be in the Top 10?
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Dec. 24, 2019 at 9:34 p.m.
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Bigger issue might be the 2.5m cap difference in the two centres plus Panik going to the Rangers. Rangers going to enough cap issues next year.

Zib with less cap for Kutz with more cap, more term might be an even trade, especially if the Caps want cap.


Cap space is valuable, but so is term. Kuznetsov for six years vs. Zibanejad for three? Hello.
Dec. 24, 2019 at 9:37 p.m.
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What exactly in this trade on the Capitals side is worth a cheap 1C in his prime and pick that will almost certainly be in the Top 10?


A chance to make the playoffs.
Dec. 24, 2019 at 9:51 p.m.
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What exactly in this trade on the Capitals side is worth a cheap 1C in his prime and pick that will almost certainly be in the Top 10?


That kuzy is a better player? I think the 1st is over kill but I wouldn’t trade 1 for 1. Kuzy hands down is the better player. Zibanejad Had 1 good season and looks like he’s having another good season but so Is Kuzy. This site constantly undervalues kuzy and becomes frustrating. The guy is one year removed from scoring 32 points in the playoffs. He’s also a ppg player. For those reasons his value is higher. Kuzy has the ability to be each a level that makes him unstoppable. If he ever figures out how to consistently do this he’s a top center in the nhl (beside McDavid and Crosby) other side of the coin when he’s not playing elite its glaringly obvious and obnoxious. End of the day I take kuzy but that’s my opinion.
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Dec. 24, 2019 at 10:06 p.m.
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Cap space is valuable, but so is term. Kuznetsov for six years vs. Zibanejad for three? Hello.


What I meant in future years, The 2.5m difference in centres.
Dec. 24, 2019 at 10:15 p.m.
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
The ability of speaking language doesn't really change anything, and even if it did, NYR should consider keeping Zibanejad due to his ability of speaking Finnish. After all, their most important prospect, Kaapo Kakko, is Finnish.

NYR isn't looking to contend short-term. Their team is too weak. They should build through their youth, which makes keeping the pick essential.

Oh, and also one thing. That Strome+Andersson+1st for Kuzy isn't really a good offer, but it's far more fair than what you suggested. Changing Strome to Mika is extremely significant change, while adding a bottom-6 forward, a random prospect and a 3rd doesn't make real difference...


Yeah. It's more even. But a fair deal for a top team's number one center gets rejected ten times out of ten.
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Dec. 24, 2019 at 10:32 p.m.
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A chance to make the playoffs.


That 99% won't happen, they're trading away their second best player for a MARGINAL at best upgrade, and giving up a first that likely won't improve much from where it currently is, when they have plenty of years left to contend with their upcoming core, and their 2020 first that I wouldn't deal 1 for 1 for Kuzy, this draft is so insanely stacked, i wouldn't trade any top 10 pick for Kuzy
Dec. 24, 2019 at 11:17 p.m.
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I'd take Mika over Kuznetsov any day of the week ..Then we add a 1st overall and a 7th overall draftee ...tears of joy
Dec. 24, 2019 at 11:29 p.m.
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mika is a better player alone than kuz so this deal is horrendous for nyr doesnt even include the steal of a contract nyr have on him
Dec. 24, 2019 at 11:29 p.m.
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I'd take Mika over Kuznetsov any day of the week ..Then we add a 1st overall and a 7th overall draftee ...tears of joy


Okay. Keep them.

Kuznetsov's been the leading scorer on a president's trophy team, and a Cup winning team. If y'all don't want him, stop making offers, and I'll stop countering.

Andersson is on pace for five points, but yeah, age and draft position say he's totally worth more than Richard Panik. Sure.
Dec. 24, 2019 at 11:58 p.m.
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Okay. Keep them.

Kuznetsov's been the leading scorer on a president's trophy team, and a Cup winning team. If y'all don't want him, stop making offers, and I'll stop countering.

Andersson is on pace for five points, but yeah, age and draft position say he's totally worth more than Richard Panik. Sure.


Mika will out point Kuznetsov this year even with Mika missing some games. Mika is one of the best two way forwards in the NHL as he back checks like no tomw, Playing our top PK (5 short handed points this year 3 of them goals) and PP and is our top line center taking all the important faceoffs so if you want Mika your going to have to offer Kuznetsov + 1st overall pick and (A) prospect and maybe we'll consider it. Lets not forget he's on a friendly 5.3m contract ..He younger then coke head Kuznetsov which will prob never play the same without his coke lol. Mika going to be named Captain next year as he is the locker room glue and all his teammate respect him and listen to him. ....Check my history cause not once have a made a post trying to get Kuznetsov .
Dec. 25, 2019 at 10:34 a.m.
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Mika will out point Kuznetsov this year even with Mika missing some games. Mika is one of the best two way forwards in the NHL as he back checks like no tomw, Playing our top PK (5 short handed points this year 3 of them goals) and PP and is our top line center taking all the important faceoffs so if you want Mika your going to have to offer Kuznetsov + 1st overall pick and (A) prospect and maybe we'll consider it. Lets not forget he's on a friendly 5.3m contract ..He younger then coke head Kuznetsov which will prob never play the same without his coke lol. Mika going to be named Captain next year as he is the locker room glue and all his teammate respect him and listen to him. ....Check my history cause not once have a made a post trying to get Kuznetsov .


And a very Merry Christmas to you!
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Dec. 25, 2019 at 2:23 p.m.
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And a very Merry Christmas to you!


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