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Kreider and TVR

Created by: Caniac555
Team: 2019-20 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 28, 2019
Published: Dec. 28, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Could still look to move Wallmark if needed
Trades
1.
CAR
  1. Kreider, Chris ($2,312,500 retained)
Additional Details:
No extension in place at time if trade.
NYR
  1. Killinen, Lenni [Reserve List]
  2. 2020 1st round pick (CAR)
  3. 2021 4th round pick (CAR)
Additional Details:
2020 1st is the later of the two CAR holds
2021 4th converts to 2021 2nd if Kreider re-signs
2.
CAR
  1. 2021 4th round pick (NSH)
NSH
  1. van Riemsdyk, Trevor
Additional Details:
Could be any team for 4th
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$79,718,166$0$3,207,500$1,781,834
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the New York Rangers
$2,312,500$2,312,500
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$8,454,000$8,454,000
C
UFA - 5
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$3,375,000$3,375,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$2,750,000$2,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$746,667$746,667 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$2,100,000$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$5,300,000$5,300,000
LD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$5,750,000$5,750,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$3,125,000$3,125,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$4,050,000$4,050,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$3,100,000$3,100,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$850,000$850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$675,000$675,000
C
UFA - 1

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Dec. 28, 2019 at 12:44 p.m.
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Framework of the trade totally works. Don't think Killinen is a good enough prospect to get it done.

More likely something Kuokkanen + 1st. And a conditional 3rd gets added if resigned.
Dec. 28, 2019 at 12:51 p.m.
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You really want Kreider after yesterday?
Dec. 28, 2019 at 12:57 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
You really want Kreider after yesterday?


After yesterday, where he had a goal and an assist?
Dec. 28, 2019 at 1:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
You really want Kreider after yesterday?


Should have gotten him yesterday morning.
Dec. 28, 2019 at 1:13 p.m.
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Are you talking about the headshot on Dougie? Sure, like Eleanor Roosevelt- I like speed, hot nasty speed.

Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
You really want Kreider after yesterday?
Dec. 28, 2019 at 1:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
You really want Kreider after yesterday?


Kreider was just being a good teammate... The refs missed yet another penalty against the Rangers when Hamilton recklessly high sticked Zibanejad just a few seconds prior. Yet another missed call against a Ranger, so Kreider started policing the game himself. Rangers have had enough... The games going to be policed, either by the refs or the Rangers players.
Dec. 28, 2019 at 2:23 p.m.
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Kreider was just being a good teammate... The refs missed yet another penalty against the Rangers when Hamilton recklessly high sticked Zibanejad just a few seconds prior. Yet another missed call against a Ranger, so Kreider started policing the game himself. Rangers have had enough... The games going to be policed, either by the refs or the Rangers players.


2 wrongs dont make a right, i saw the hit to zib and yes it was a headshot but what Kreider did was straight up reckless. He hit dougie like a freaking freight train at full speed
Dec. 30, 2019 at 5:08 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
2 wrongs dont make a right, i saw the hit to zib and yes it was a headshot but what Kreider did was straight up reckless. He hit dougie like a freaking freight train at full speed


If the ref had called the blatant reckless high stick on Doogie, Kreider wouldn't have had to take matters into his own hands and Doogie wouldn't of gotten freight trained. As for two wrongs don't make it right... You're correct, Doogie was wrong for high sticking Zibanejad so late in the game -down by two goals when the game was basically out of reach and the refs were wrong for not calling a penalty. Kreider was just correcting the two wrongs. If the refs and opponents don't like the way Kreider demands justice, don't do wrong.
Dec. 30, 2019 at 5:27 a.m.
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More and more I'm starting to think NYR shouldn't trade Kreider and instead resign him long term.
Dec. 30, 2019 at 5:51 a.m.
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If the ref had called the blatant reckless high stick on Doogie, Kreider wouldn't have had to take matters into his own hands and Doogie wouldn't of gotten freight trained. As for two wrongs don't make it right... You're correct, Doogie was wrong for high sticking Zibanejad so late in the game -down by two goals when the game was basically out of reach and the refs were wrong for not calling a penalty. Kreider was just correcting the two wrongs. If the refs and opponents don't like the way Kreider demands justice, don't do wrong.


What a homer point of view. Dougie's stick made head contact at waste height so Zib had to be bent over enough that he might as well have been taking a faceoff. Sure it was poor care of his stick but a hit to the head is rarely ever punished if the player hit put himself in a position that increases his chance of head contact (ie ducking while attempting to dodge a body check that results in the head being the main point of contact). Sure the refs missed it, refs miss all sorts of ****. But then to say what Krieder did was right is absolutely hysterical. I get if he went over and roughed Hamilton up or tried to start a fight but clearly try to hit him in the head and potentially give him a concussion? Come on man, and you talk about being reckless. There are rules in place for self policing and that was a clear violation of them.
Dec. 30, 2019 at 7:37 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
What a homer point of view. Dougie's stick made head contact at waste height so Zib had to be bent over enough that he might as well have been taking a faceoff. Sure it was poor care of his stick but a hit to the head is rarely ever punished if the player hit put himself in a position that increases his chance of head contact (ie ducking while attempting to dodge a body check that results in the head being the main point of contact). Sure the refs missed it, refs miss all sorts of ****. But then to say what Krieder did was right is absolutely hysterical. I get if he went over and roughed Hamilton up or tried to start a fight but clearly try to hit him in the head and potentially give him a concussion? Come on man, and you talk about being reckless. There are rules in place for self policing and that was a clear violation of them.


Look at the replay... Doogie's stick held Zibanejad in place so he could catch up to him and then in frustration, because Zibanejad had been exposing Doogie's lack of defensive ability all game long, he purposely high sticked him. Zibanejad never lifted his stick off the puck and Doogie intentionally raised his stick into his face. Kreder was in front of the net in perfect view to see the whole thing happen. There's a reason fighting is allowed in the Hockey Constitution. If not for fighting, players would be hitting other players with their stick much more often than it currently happens - just like Doogie did to Zabenajad. If Kreider tried to fight Doogie, other Canes players would have stepped in and not let Doogie get the beating he deserved. If Doogie were to hit Zibanejad like a man with a check like Kreider did in retaliation, then it's ok for a Ranger to skate over slap Doogie senseless. But Doogie was too cowardly to do that and used his stick instead. A Cains player could have challenged Kreider to a fight, but deep down they respected him for being a good teammate. As for being a homer... If I were a Cains fan I'd also have respect for Kreider being a great teammate and I'd harken, "Your names Doogie... Not Paul Bunyan!" Can't let someone named Doogie take high sticking liberties on your teammates when the game has already been decided, it's just bad for team moral.
 
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