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Monster Avs trade second try

Created by: ChiHawk
Initial Creation Date: Dec 30, 2019
Published: Dec 30, 2019 at 12:34 am
Team: 2019-20 Chicago Blackhawks
Trades
CHI
  1. Byram, Bowen
  2. 2021 4th round pick (COL)
COL
  1. DeBrincat, Alex
CHI
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (NJD)
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (NJD)
VGK
  1. Gustafsson, Erik
CHI
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (CHI)
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (CHI)
MTL
  1. Crawford, Corey ($3,000,000 retained)
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Corey Crawford: $3,000,000 (50%)
  • Robin Lehner: $2,500,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
CHI
CHI
CHI
NJD
CHI
CHI
CHI
2021
CHI
CHI
NJD
CHI
CHI
COL
CHI
CHI
CHI
MTL
2022
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$65,043,461$0$7,845,000$16,456,539
Left WingCenterRight Wing
CHI
Saad, Brandon
$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
CHI
Toews, Jonathan
$10,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
CHI
Kane, Patrick
$10,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 4
CHI
Kubalik, Dominik
$925,000
LW
RFA - 1
CHI
Strome, Dylan
$863,333
C
RFA - 1
CHI
Dach, Kirby
$925,000
C
RFA - 3
CHI
Caggiula, Drake
$1,500,000
LW, C, RW
RFA - 1
CHI
Kämpf, David
$1,000,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
CHI
Nylander, Alexander
$863,333
RW, LW
RFA - 2
CHI
Quenneville, John
$750,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
CHI
Highmore, Matthew
$775,833
C
RFA - 1
CHI
Carpenter, Ryan
$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
CHI
Smith, Zack
$3,250,000
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 2
CHI
Sikura, Dylan
$750,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CHI
Keith, Duncan
$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
CHI
Boqvist, Adam
$894,167
RD
RFA - 3
CHI
Lehner, Robin
$1,400,000
G
UFA - 1
CHI
Määttä, Olli
$4,083,333
LD
UFA - 3
CHI
Murphy, Connor
$3,850,000
RD
UFA - 3
CHI
Lankinen, Kevin
$925,000
G
UFA - 1
CHI
Gilbert, Dennis
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
CHI
Koekkoek, Slater
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
CHI
McCoshen, Ian
$700,000
LD
RFA - 1
CHI
Holm, Philip
$700,000
D
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
CHI
Seabrook, Brent
$6,875,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
CHI
De Haan, Calvin
$4,550,000
LD
UFA - 3
CHI
Shaw, Andrew
$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 3

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Dec 30, 2019 at 12:42
#1
mhockey91
Joined: Jun 2015
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That is a huge trade. Interesting
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Dec 30, 2019 at 12:48
#2
Thread Starter
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Quoting: mhockey91
That is a huge trade. Interesting


As long as Byram lives up to that #2 ceiling people are talking about I think it makes sense for both teams.
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Dec 30, 2019 at 1:05
#3
DarthKane
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 298
Likes: 38
I like your creativity, but I would pass on this deal. I’m a big Byram fan but this is a risky move for the Hawks and one they can not afford to make.
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Dec 30, 2019 at 1:25
#4
Nylander is a GOD
Joined: Feb 2018
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Huh, this makes a lot of sense in theory. But the idea of trading one of my favorite players kind of makes my skin crawl... and to Colorado no less? Hmmmm No comment.
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Dec 30, 2019 at 1:27
#5
Thread Starter
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Huh, this makes a lot of sense in theory. But the idea of trading one of my favorite players kind of makes my skin crawl... and to Colorado no less? Hmmmm No comment.


Bromance with the Cat?
Dec 30, 2019 at 6:22
#6
Lets go bolts!
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 636
Likes: 203
very interesting, trading cat seems wild! i wonder if there is a tampa trade somewhere. . . any ideas?
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Dec 30, 2019 at 8:05
#7
exo2769
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 6,631
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Edited Dec 30, 2019 at 8:10
Quoting: Hedman4Norris
very interesting, trading cat seems wild! i wonder if there is a tampa trade somewhere. . . any ideas?


Gourde (since cap will have to be sent back), Nolan Foote, and the VAN 1st.

@ChiHawk As for the trade itself. The value is there. I just wouldn't want to do it because who else is going to score on the Hawks?! Kane can't do everything himself and he is 31. Also, not all prospects turn out. I know, I know, that sounds contradictory to the comments I made about the previous Saad trade. It's just that 40 goal scorers don't grow on trees and the Cat did it in his 2nd NHL season. You know how many 40 goal seasons Kane has in his career...TWO. I'm not truly suggesting they're equal, but what Debrincat provides is very underrated. He's going to be driving his own line very shortly and THOSE are the players you can't trade away. The difference makers.

***EDIT*** If we redrafted 2016...where would he go? I think 4th OA, but I could see 5th too. Matthews, Tkachuk, Laine, Debrincat, Luc Dubios, Carter Hart
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Dec 30, 2019 at 10:10
#8
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 478
Likes: 151
These are some really savvy moves, I think they are all fair value though echo the above comments about trading the Cat.

Byram would really bring "potentially" a solid D line with Boqvist/Mitchell for our future but it is a big IF at the moment. In saying that, we may be able to pick up a really nice young wing in the top 10 of this draft which would help lessen the blow. It may also allow us to trade off Murphy down the line for a top 6 forward.

If this were to go ahead, we may look at getting a return on Strome also
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Dec 30, 2019 at 10:24
#9
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good value interesting idea but still wouldnt do it. Avs need Byram more than they need DeBrincat

Teams prolong their cup window by having high end talent on ELCs, why you dont move Byram. DeBrincat and his extension would start to eat into the depth and put the Avs in cap issues before they even get to the end of the MacKinnon contract.
Dec 30, 2019 at 10:37
#10
Hawks and Isles Fan
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 2,277
Likes: 880
Really interesting idea. I don't like trading DeBrincat just because he's having a down year, but they need a future top pairing defenseman so bad.

Because Byram hasn't seen any time in the NHL, there's a lot of risk in this deal for Chicago. I'd prefer a guy like Girard instead, which I know wouldn't happen, but he's more of a known quantity and has similar upside.
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