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Saving jack from Buffalo

Created by: CapFriendlysFinest
Initial Creation Date: Jan 1, 2020
Published: Jan 1 at 1:17
Team: 2019-20 Colorado Avalanche
Trades
COL
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. Jost, Tyson
  2. Timmins, Conor
  3. Donskoi, Joonas
  4. Bowers, Shane
  5. 2020 1st round pick (COL)
  6. 2021 1st round pick (COL)
Buyouts
  • Brooks Orpik: $1,500,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Tyson Barrie: $2,750,000 (50%)
Buried
  • Kevin Connauton: $300,000 ($1,375,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TOR
COL
COL
FLA
COL
2021
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
2022
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$79,273,928$0$2,682,500$2,226,072

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
COL
Landeskog, Gabriel
$5,571,429
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
COL
MacKinnon, Nathan
$6,300,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
COL
Rantanen, Mikko
$9,250,000
RW
UFA - 6
COL
Kadri, Nazem
$4,500,000
C
NTC
UFA - 3
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 7
COL
Burakovsky, André
$3,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
COL
Calvert, Matt
$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
COL
Wilson, Colin
$2,600,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
COL
Compher, J.T.
$3,500,000
RW, C
UFA - 4
COL
Nieto, Matt
$1,975,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
COL
Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard
$1,800,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
COL
Nichushkin, Valeri
$850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
COL
Cole, Ian
$4,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
COL
Makar, Cale
$880,833
RD
RFA - 2
COL
Grubauer, Philipp
$3,333,333
G
UFA - 2
COL
Girard, Samuel
$728,333
LD
UFA - 1
COL
Johnson, Erik
$6,000,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 4
COL
Francouz, Pavel
$950,000
G
UFA - 1
COL
Zadorov, Nikita
$3,200,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
COL
Barberio, Mark
$1,450,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
COL
Graves, Ryan
$735,000
LD
UFA - 1
COL
Kamenev, Vladislav
$750,000
C
RFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Landeskog, G.
MacKinnon, N.
Rantanen, M.
Eichel, J.
Makar, C.
Power Play 2
Compher, J.
Kadri, N.
Burakovsky, A.
Girard, S.
Nieto, M.

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Jan 1 at 1:17
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Lol
Jan 1 at 1:19
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Quoting: sabres262
Lol


Im bored, not trying to add to the pain LOL
Jan 1 at 1:24
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Starts with Makar
Jan 1 at 1:28
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Shibbal18
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If anything theyd ship him to Boston, but an Eichel trade would start with MacKinnon
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Jan 1 at 1:28
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Quoting: Shibbal18
If anything theyd ship him to Boston, but an Eichel trade would start with MacKinnon


no it wouldnt bc thats not how these trades work. Why would Avs give up the better cost controlled player?
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Jan 1 at 1:29
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Quoting: JokiharjuForNylanderLMAO
Starts with Makar


thats just silly its never going to happen, Avs would never trade makar even for Eichel
Jan 1 at 1:32
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Quoting: coga16
thats just silly its never going to happen, Avs would never trade makar even for Eichel


Well that’s just ducking insane
Jan 1 at 1:33
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Quoting: JokiharjuForNylanderLMAO
Well that’s just ducking insane


would you trade Dahlin+ for Rantanen? Bc you said it starts with Makar implying more than just Makar or Eichel
Jan 1 at 1:34
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Isles777
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Byram, jost, newhook and a 1st for Eichel
Jan 1 at 1:38
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Quoting: coga16
would you trade Dahlin+ for Rantanen? Bc you said it starts with Makar implying more than just Makar or Eichel

Dahlin>Makar
Jan 1 at 1:39
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Quoting: JokiharjuForNylanderLMAO
Dahlin>Makar


dude you are not answering the question, and stop being a homer.
Makar is outscoring and out producing Dahlin at a decently large clip this season. While playing solid defence etc etc. They both are great players but take the time to actually process the thought before default to homer my player is better than your player cliche crap
Jan 1 at 1:42
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Shibbal18
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Quoting: coga16
no it wouldnt bc thats not how these trades work. Why would Avs give up the better cost controlled player?


A. Because the Sabres are ever trading Eichel
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Jan 1 at 1:43
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Shibbal18
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Quoting: coga16
thats just silly its never going to happen, Avs would never trade makar even for Eichel


Then you must not want him
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Jan 1 at 1:43
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Quoting: Shibbal18
A. Because the Sabres are ever trading Eichel


and Avs would never trade Mackinnon, thats why I said trades dont work like that
If the Oilers trade McDavid they are getting a franchise 1C back
Jan 1 at 1:44
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Then you must not want him


I asked another sabres fan would you trade Dahlin+ for Rantanen bc hes saying it starts with Makar, meaning more than jus this. The answer is no you wouldnt trade Dahlin, thats point. teams wont trade 20 year old Norris level Dmen on their ELCs.
Jan 1 at 1:45
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Quoting: coga16
and Avs would never trade Mackinnon, thats why I said trades dont work like that
If the Oilers trade McDavid they are getting a franchise 1C back


Thats what I was saying, So why'd you frame it as i was wrong.
Jan 1 at 1:46
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Thats what I was saying, So why'd you frame it as i was wrong.


you started it off by saying it starts with MacKinnon, that is not what you are saying, IF a team traded away their Franchise 1C, they are not getting a franchise 1C back.
thats what I am saying, you said the opposite
Jan 1 at 1:49
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Quoting: coga16
dude you are not answering the question, and stop being a homer.
Makar is outscoring and out producing Dahlin at a decently large clip this season. While playing solid defence etc etc. They both are great players but take the time to actually process the thought before default to homer my player is better than your player cliche crap


I dont disagree with you here about the homer stuff. That being said, Dahlin is on a horrible buffalo team and Makar is on a overpowered one. The fact that Dahlin has as many points as he does on that buffalo team speaks wonders oh how good he is. Dahlin has also been their best shutdown guy in his second year, which is crazy. Maker is more subjected to team second pairs. Both average 21-24 mins a night. Both guys are elite but you cant argue either is better than the other right now
Jan 1 at 1:53
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Quoting: CapFriendlysFinest
I dont disagree with you here about the homer stuff. That being said, Dahlin is on a horrible buffalo team and Makar is on a overpowered one. The fact that Dahlin has as many points as he does on that buffalo team speaks wonders oh how good he is. Dahlin has also been their best shutdown guy in his second year, which is crazy. Maker is more subjected to team second pairs. Both average 21-24 mins a night. Both guys are elite but you cant argue either is better than the other right now


Im not arguing that my guy is better than his guy, just pointing out some normal stats that show advantage Makar, you could even look at his GoalsAboveReplacement, a league leader with how special of a talent he is, Point was guy just can rapid fire response back my guy is better than yours bc its not a slam dunk statement like that
Jan 1 at 1:58
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Quoting: coga16
Im not arguing that my guy is better than his guy, just pointing out some normal stats that show advantage Makar, you could even look at his GoalsAboveReplacement, a league leader with how special of a talent he is, Point was guy just can rapid fire response back my guy is better than yours bc its not a slam dunk statement like that


Which I can agree on. As a Leafs fan I'm used to every team saying their player is better and every Leafs fan saying the same ****
Jan 1 at 2:03
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Quoting: Shibbal18
If anything theyd ship him to Boston, but an Eichel trade would start with MacKinnon


Or a package around makar, but yes, this.
Jan 1 at 2:10
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Quoting: sabres89
Or a package around makar, but yes, this.


Makar package, right....are you doing a dahlin package for rantanen? Didn’t think so

Makar package. Is some crazy pill stuff
Jan 1 at 2:26
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Quoting: coga16
Makar package, right....are you doing a dahlin package for rantanen? Didn’t think so

Makar package. Is some crazy pill stuff


Quoting: sabres89
Or a package around makar, but yes, this.


Lets be real, Makar would be a package for Eichel. Dahlin wouldnt for Rantanen. Only reason is position. Franchise centers are the hardest thing to come by in the NHL. Top 5 wingers are easier to find
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Jan 1 at 2:30
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Quoting: CapFriendlysFinest
Lets be real, Makar would be a package for Eichel. Dahlin wouldnt for Rantanen. Only reason is position. Franchise centers are the hardest thing to come by in the NHL. Top 5 wingers are easier to find


That’s not my point it’s adding more to your young stud dman in an unnecessary trade. Swap it to Matthews then, it doesn’t matter who

It’s easy for them to say makar plus and if they believed that they would be willing to move dahlin plus in a similar trade. And I can guaranteed they wouldn’t. Don’t ask what you aren’t willing to do yourself
Jan 1 at 2:36
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Quoting: coga16
That’s not my point it’s adding more to your young stud dman in an unnecessary trade

It’s easy for them to say makar plus and if they believed that they would be willing to move dahlin plus in a similar trade. And I can guaranteed they wouldn’t. Don’t ask what you aren’t willing to do yourself


That’s not my point it’s adding more to your young stud dman in an unnecessary trade

So then say that the first time and dont be sarcastic, pretty simple
 
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