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Looking at worst contract from each team

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Initial Creation Date: Jan. 1, 2020
Published: Jan. 1, 2020
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Some may be controversial, such as Tampa. Also, some teams may not have too many bad deals. Some contracts may go on long term LTIR soon as well I know, but one's currently picked are not at this time (I think). Some adv. analytics are used as well for most picks (like for Lindell).
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
31$81,500,000$169,669,558$0$0-$88,169,558
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$7,538,462$7,538,462
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$5,850,000$5,850,000
C, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$6,800,000$6,800,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$4,250,000$4,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$3,571,429$3,571,429
C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,893,000$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 6
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$3,900,000$3,900,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$5,291,667$5,291,667
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Florida Panthers
$10,000,000$10,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$6,875,000$6,875,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$3,125,000$3,125,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$2,900,000$2,900,000
G
UFA - 4
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$5,800,000$5,800,000
LD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,625,000$4,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Rangers
$4,350,000$4,350,000
LD/RD, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5

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Jan. 1, 2020 at 4:13 p.m.
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Mitch marner? That seems ridiculous. Cody ceci that I could see.
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Jan. 1, 2020 at 4:22 p.m.
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Mitch marner? That seems ridiculous. Cody ceci that I could see.


1 yr of a 3-4 mil overpay vs 8 yrs of a 2 mil overpay....
Jan. 1, 2020 at 4:24 p.m.
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Mitch marner? That seems ridiculous. Cody ceci that I could see.


Only one year deal though. I tried to take length into account.
Jan. 1, 2020 at 4:26 p.m.
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Only one year deal though. I tried to take length into account.


Go with Matthews rather, 5 x 11,634 for 70 Points average per Season and he dragged Marner's demand with it....
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Jan. 1, 2020 at 4:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Mitch marner? That seems ridiculous. Cody ceci that I could see.


Term's obviously a factor here.

Ceci's deal is prohibitive - nobody denies that - but it expires in the summer and the Leafs are under no obligation to keep him in their fold. Marner is overpaid, by how much varies from opinion to opinion, but the underlying truth of him being overpaid remains. As the cap increases, his deal will likely grow to be more comfortable under said salary cap, but right now it's hard to justify why he makes so much more than Nylander.

In the context of "worst contracts in the league", Marner's deal isn't horrible. That's the kind of player you want to overpay, and he'll be worth it in the long run, but there's anywhere between $2-3M per season for the next six years that the Leafs shouldn't have needed to spend tied up in that deal.
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Jan. 1, 2020 at 4:27 p.m.
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Go with Matthews rather, 5 x 11,634 for 70 Points average per Season and he dragged Marner's demand with it....


Best (most efficient) 5vs5 goal scorer in the league past few seasons iirc.
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Jan. 1, 2020 at 4:29 p.m.
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Quoting: ExpiredmilkYT
Best (most efficient) 5vs5 goal scorer in the league past few seasons iirc.


Still doesnt justify term or AAV.....should be 7 x 11,5M or 5 x 10M...plus as i said, pushed Dubarelli into corner to cave again....
Jan. 1, 2020 at 4:29 p.m.
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I understand how some teams can be tough, especially when eliminating one year deals. But still a little odd seeing Fluery as the Vegas one.

I may go Marchessault or Pacioretty, but understand the trouble/debate.

If including pending UFAs though, it may be Eakin at this point
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Jan. 1, 2020 at 4:35 p.m.
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I understand how some teams can be tough, especially when eliminating one year deals. But still a little odd seeing Fluery as the Vegas one.

I may go Marchessault or Pacioretty, but understand the trouble/debate.

If including pending UFAs though, it may be Eakin at this point


Ya, Vegas was kind of a tricky one. Because it's kind of hard to predict which of their players may age poorly in the coming years as well.
Jan. 1, 2020 at 4:39 p.m.
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Quoting: ExpiredmilkYT
Ya, Vegas was kind of a tricky one. Because it's kind of hard to predict which of their players may age poorly in the coming years as well.


After I typed the last comment, I realized it’s probably Stastny. Still another year left after this, and at 6.5 million. They have Karlsson, Glass and Stephenson moving forward.
Jan. 1, 2020 at 4:46 p.m.
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If the logic choosing marner over Ceci is 1 year of term, why Frolik over Lucic?
Jan. 1, 2020 at 4:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
If the logic choosing marner over Ceci is 1 year of term, why Frolik over Lucic?


Oh yeah forgot about Lucic. Good catch. Will fix now.
Jan. 1, 2020 at 5:01 p.m.
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Some of these aren't really all that bad and probably shouldn't be on here.
Like Kuznetsov, really? He's a 1/2 center averaging a point a game, Hagelin is probably the Caps worst deal right now even though he makes considerably less.
Jan. 1, 2020 at 5:04 p.m.
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I can see how Tampa is tough. But your franchise goalie as a worst contract? I would probably roll with Killorn on this one. 4.5 x 4 and he is 30.
Jan. 1, 2020 at 5:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Mitch marner? That seems ridiculous. Cody ceci that I could see.


Marner would get multiple firsts if he were traded. I don't know if ceci is at negative value or just minimal value, but it wouldn't cost anything to trade marner (whether you would retain to maximize value is a different story).
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Jan. 1, 2020 at 5:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Laudan
Still doesnt justify term or AAV.....should be 7 x 11,5M or 5 x 10M...plus as i said, pushed Dubarelli into corner to cave again....


Yes with outstanding play.
Jan. 1, 2020 at 6:14 p.m.
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Overpaying does not equal bad contract. People need to realize that.

Bad contract is when you are over paying to begin with AND the player sucks as is. Yielding no value what so ever. Half the players above are simply overpaid for what they give, that doesn't mean they aren't giving anything.

Kuznetsov, Marner, Lindell....etc.. These are still amazing hockey players..... not remotely close to the worst contracts in the NHL.


Overpay does not equal bad contract.
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Jan. 1, 2020 at 6:17 p.m.
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Overpaying does not equal bad contract. People need to realize that.

Bad contract is when you are over paying to begin with AND the player sucks as is. Yielding no value what so ever. Half the players above are simply overpaid for what they give, that doesn't mean they aren't giving anything.

Kuznetsov, Marner, Lindell....etc.. These are still amazing hockey players..... not remotely close to the worst contracts in the NHL.


Overpay does not equal bad contract.


That would be the case for UFAs, not really for contracts given to RFAs, also Lindell sucks.
Jan. 1, 2020 at 6:20 p.m.
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Quoting: ExpiredmilkYT
Only one year deal though. I tried to take length into account.


Guess Dubas will have to take that as a compliment. He did a great job of clearing out bad contracts.
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Jan. 1, 2020 at 6:27 p.m.
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Guess Dubas will have to take that as a compliment. He did a great job of clearing out bad contracts.


I think Dubas is a pretty alright GM tbh. Only really flaw was the Ceci deal.
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Jan. 1, 2020 at 7:28 p.m.
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Guess Dubas will have to take that as a compliment. He did a great job of clearing out bad contracts.


We can only hope that paying elite money for elite players, and filling in the cracks with cheap ones will work as well as it should based on the value added by the elite.

I still can't believe that is Zaitsev's actual contract! Thank goodness Dubas was able to unload it. Ceci is a drag on the roster for this year only, what a deal!

Quoting: ExpiredmilkYT
That would be the case for UFAs, not really for contracts given to RFAs, also Lindell sucks.


Thanks for putting this together Expired Milk, incredible to see the cost and term for Seabrook, Myers, Lindell, Boychuk, Zaitsev, Okposo, Hayes, Lucic, Schneider... sickening, but amazing
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Jan. 1, 2020 at 7:43 p.m.
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I strongly object to your placement of Cam Fowler on this list. First, as you rightly point out, some teams just don't have truly bad contracts. Moreover, Fowler is first on the team in power play points, second on the team in power play goals and scoring, and first on the team in plus-minus even if that's a particularly misleading statistic. He's the coaching staff's choice for first-unit power play quarterback due to skill and not because the Ducks have no choice. My selection for this distinction on the Anaheim roster would be Josh Manson. No goals and three assists in 26 games and $4MM per? Are you kidding me? And who do you think John Gibson was calling out when he said that playing in the NHL is a privilege and some guys just don't seem to realize that?
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Jan. 1, 2020 at 11:07 p.m.
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Neal is back where he was with Vegas. Maybe better. So I don't think that's a good pick for the Oilers. McDavid is lucky he can put up insane points because that contract hurts his team capwise badly. Obviously worth the money though. Maybe the goalie they signed makes more sense
 
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