Subban would rebound on a pair with Hedman

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Created by: Hedman77

Team: 2019-20 Tampa Bay Lightning

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 2, 2020

Published: Jan. 2, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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That’s why I want us to get him. Buy (probably) low and reap the benefits

Buyouts

Matthew Carle: $1,833,333
Vincent Lecavalier: $0

Buried

Mike Condon: $1,325,000 ($2,400,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$79,103,331	$0	$1,180,000	$2,396,669

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Johnson, Tyler $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, C, LW NTC UFA - 5	Stamkos, Steven $8,500,000$8,500,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 5	Kucherov, Nikita $9,500,000$9,500,000 RW UFA - 8
Killorn, Alex $4,450,000$4,450,000 RW, LW NTC UFA - 4	Point, Brayden $6,750,000$6,750,000 C, RW UFA - 3	Palat, Ondrej $5,300,000$5,300,000 LW, RW NTC UFA - 3
Maroon, Patrick $900,000$900,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Paquette, Cédric $1,650,000$1,650,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2	Gourde, Yanni $5,166,666$5,166,666 C, LW, RW NTC UFA - 6
	Stephens, Mitchell $833,333$833,333 C UFA - 1
	Cirelli, Anthony $728,333$728,333 ($182,500$182K) C, LW UFA - 1
	Verhaeghe, Carter $700,000$700,000 LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hedman, Victor $7,875,000$7,875,000 LD NMC UFA - 6	Shattenkirk, Kevin $1,750,000$1,750,000 RD NTC UFA - 1	Vasilevskiy, Andrei $3,500,000$3,500,000 G UFA - 1
McDonagh, Ryan $6,750,000$6,750,000 LD NTC UFA - 7	Rutta, Jan $1,300,000$1,300,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	McElhinney, Curtis $1,300,000$1,300,000 G UFA - 2
Coburn, Braydon $1,700,000$1,700,000 LD NTC UFA - 2	Schenn, Luke $700,000$700,000 RD UFA - 1
Sergachev, Mikhail $894,166$894,166 ($850,000$850K) LD/RD UFA - 1	Cernak, Erik $697,500$697,500 ($147,500$148K) RD UFA - 1

Jan. 2, 2020 at 12:46 p.m.

Smitty426

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Whats you low offer?

Jan. 2, 2020 at 12:52 p.m.

TheDime99

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Quoting: Smitty426

Whats you low offer?

A bag of pucks

Jan. 2, 2020 at 12:57 p.m.

Smitty426

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Quoting: TheDime99

A bag of pucks

And we retain half I bet?
$800-900K per puck sounds like a deal!

Jan. 2, 2020 at 1:04 p.m.

GenXHockey

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Oh please... please... please let this trade happen!!!

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Jan. 2, 2020 at 1:34 p.m.

palhal

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Even at 50% retention how is Tampa manage the cap for the next two full seasons?

Jan. 2, 2020 at 1:41 p.m.

jasalex

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Quoting: palhal

Even at 50% retention how is Tampa manage the cap for the next two full seasons?

Jan. 2, 2020 at 1:45 p.m.

MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: palhal

Even at 50% retention how is Tampa manage the cap for the next two full seasons?

Exactly that plus with 50% retention it likely greatly increases the Devils asking price, he's just not worth it.

I see two teams for Subban, possibly Philly and NJ,
there's just no one else where I can see a need for him or that could fit him, maybe the Canucks too but that's it.

Jan. 2, 2020 at 1:54 p.m.

palhal

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

I know it's subjective, but IMO Subban isn't even a 4.5m Dmen. Jersey would better off trading him for 7th rounder, eating 4.5m retention and then have 4.5m to spend elsewhere.

Maybe there should be "lemon law" like there is for cars. Leafs trade Ceci and two second rounders for 4.5m Subban. Subban comes with 30 month warranty. Leafs can give him back anytime starting next June to Jersey and get their picks back too.

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Jan. 2, 2020 at 1:58 p.m.

GenXHockey

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Quoting: palhal

I din’t Think the lemon law applies to scrap steel....

Which reminds me have you seen the scotiabank ad with Matthews and Subban?

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Jan. 2, 2020 at 2:37 p.m.

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ZiggyPalffy

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Edited Jan. 2, 2020 at 2:42 p.m.

There's something you are forgetting. Sure his on ice production may climb a bit. But there's a reason he keeps getting traded and that's his personality and lack of commitment. He has a side business to run too lol (clothes) He is a problem off ice. He doesn't gel well in any lockerroom.

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Jan. 2, 2020 at 2:41 p.m.

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ZiggyPalffy

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Quoting: palhal

Even at 50% retention how is Tampa manage the cap for the next two full seasons?

I foresee him being traded at least 6 more times before he retires, so maybe that?

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Jan. 3, 2020 at 7:53 a.m.

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palhal

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Quoting: Jamiepo

I din’t Think the lemon law applies to scrap steel....

Which reminds me have you seen the scotiabank ad with Matthews and Subban?

No, I haven't seen the commercial. Since November 1st, I've been out every evening from about 630 to 930. so I tape the games and fast forward through many commercials

Jan. 3, 2020 at 8:39 a.m.

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GenXHockey

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Quoting: palhal

No, I haven't seen the commercial. Since November 1st, I've been out every evening from about 630 to 930. so I tape the games and fast forward through many commercials

Pk Subban and Matthews are on the ice together and Pk leans over to Matthews and says he just got $350 for opening a scotiabank account. Matthews replies “last signing bonus you’ll ever see”

Nice to see PK still has his sense of humour..

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Jan. 3, 2020 at 9:42 a.m.

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Zwui21

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Quoting: palhal

Even at 50% retention how is Tampa manage the cap for the next two full seasons?

We don't. There is no way to make this happen and there is no way this happens.
Why would you even want to pay a guy 4.5M AAV for the next two seasons when he's a sub par Dman which happens to be a defensive liability too. Not even Chiarelli would want Subban

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