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Sabres fans We are not dealing Tuch For Risto

Created by: Stones6160
Team: 2019-20 Vegas Golden Knights
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 3, 2020
Published: Jan. 3, 2020
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He has way more value than Ristolainen
Ristolainen is the master of Turnovers meanwhile tuch is on arguably the best long term contact in the league
Yea we need a dman but we DO NOT want Risto
I REPEAT DO NOT
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Jan. 3, 2020 at 1:42 a.m.
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Not a sabres fan - God what a bad take. Master of turnovers? He has 18 give aways this season in 41 games, Tuch has 17 give aways 15 less games. Tuch has 64.2% offensive zone starts and still only has a 50% corsi. While Risto has a 46.6% oZS and has 50% corsi. Vegas needs a powerplay QB because Theordore really isnt that impressive of an option. Tuch for Risto would be an absolute steal for Vegas and they would be stupid not to take it.

PS. Not a Buffalo fan in case you didnt read it the first time
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Jan. 3, 2020 at 2:20 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Not a sabres fan - God what a bad take. Master of turnovers? He has 18 give aways this season in 41 games, Tuch has 17 give aways 15 less games. Tuch has 64.2% offensive zone starts and still only has a 50% corsi. While Risto has a 46.6% oZS and has 50% corsi. Vegas needs a powerplay QB because Theordore really isnt that impressive of an option. Tuch for Risto would be an absolute steal for Vegas and they would be stupid not to take it.

PS. Not a Buffalo fan in case you didnt read it the first time


No... RISTO is very average. If Vegas decides to trade Tuch they’ll get a way better defenseman than Risto. Tuch is coming off a 50 point season and has a positive turn over ratio unlike RISTO. You seem confused. Jones for Tuch would be a steal. RISTO for Tuch would be embarrassing for Vegas.
Jan. 3, 2020 at 2:39 a.m.
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Gus is going to Vegas...you heard it here first
Jan. 3, 2020 at 2:52 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Not a sabres fan - God what a bad take. Master of turnovers? He has 18 give aways this season in 41 games, Tuch has 17 give aways 15 less games. Tuch has 64.2% offensive zone starts and still only has a 50% corsi. While Risto has a 46.6% oZS and has 50% corsi. Vegas needs a powerplay QB because Theordore really isnt that impressive of an option. Tuch for Risto would be an absolute steal for Vegas and they would be stupid not to take it.

PS. Not a Buffalo fan in case you didnt read it the first time


Nice post
Jan. 3, 2020 at 2:53 a.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
No... RISTO is very average. If Vegas decides to trade Tuch they’ll get a way better defenseman than Risto. Tuch is coming off a 50 point season and has a positive turn over ratio unlike RISTO. You seem confused. Jones for Tuch would be a steal. RISTO for Tuch would be embarrassing for Vegas.


Not as embarrassing as Forsberg for Erat ???
Jan. 3, 2020 at 2:57 a.m.
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Not as embarrassing as Forsberg for Erat ???


Caps won a cup? Did forsberg win a Conn? Hahah yeah solid chirp. You traded the Conn winner for literally nothing that benefits your roster. It’s so great ?
Jan. 3, 2020 at 3:04 a.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Caps won a cup? Did forsberg win a Conn? Hahah yeah solid chirp. You traded the Conn winner for literally nothing that benefits your roster. It’s so great ?


I didn’t trade anyone
And neither did you
But keep acting smarter than everyone else
What’s the weather like from on top of your high horse?
Jan. 3, 2020 at 3:05 a.m.
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Quoting: Jdfitz77
I didn’t trade anyone
And neither did you
But keep acting smarter than everyone else
What’s the weather like from on top of your high horse?



It’s great. A lot of people are smarter than me. Just not you.
Jan. 3, 2020 at 3:20 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Not a sabres fan - God what a bad take. Master of turnovers? He has 18 give aways this season in 41 games, Tuch has 17 give aways 15 less games. Tuch has 64.2% offensive zone starts and still only has a 50% corsi. While Risto has a 46.6% oZS and has 50% corsi. Vegas needs a powerplay QB because Theordore really isnt that impressive of an option. Tuch for Risto would be an absolute steal for Vegas and they would be stupid not to take it.

PS. Not a Buffalo fan in case you didnt read it the first time


This is odd. Firstly because Ristolainen is not good. Might be the first time I have seen someone use underlying numbers to make a positive argument in favor of Ristolainen. Secondly, it's odd you reference the numbers and then mention Theordore. Maybe double check the numbers on that.
Jan. 3, 2020 at 3:35 a.m.
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Quoting: TooMalevolent
This is odd. Firstly because Ristolainen is not good. Might be the first time I have seen someone use underlying numbers to make a positive argument in favor of Ristolainen. Secondly, it's odd you reference the numbers and then mention Theordore. Maybe double check the numbers on that.

My reference to Theodore was strictly towards him being the main defense on the Vegas power play. Sure 9 points is pretty decent but hes also never had more than 9 PPP in a whole season before. Where Im getting at is Risto has the Power play QB experience.

There is no point in comparing other statistics as Theodore isnt involved in any potential trade here
 
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