You keep telling me how Sandin is better, but can't post anything to back it up. It just proves you have a bias opinion. Not my fault.

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You know what, just for you I put in extra work: This is Romonov's PNHLe

Used a guy who still doesn't even think Romanov should be a first round pick. Has him ranked 35th overall in the re-draft lmao

Yup. And PNHLe backs him up on that

The reason it's so low is because they don't factor in age. He's 19 that plays in the best team in Russia. He only gets 7-8 minutes a night with no special teams, so of course his stats are going to be bad.

It's not about who is better, it's a tier. Prospects are much different players, it's like Doughty vs Karlsson, both great but different ways, they are in the s.ame tier.

Sandin, Romanov and Seider are in the same tier. All different players, that played in different usages on their respective teams, declaring that one is way ahead of the others is what's wrong with your arguements.

https://www.nhlrankking.com/PNHLe.htm

Of course Romanov's won't be high. It's an offensive stat that the system is based around.

sandin and seider are a tier above romanov

It literally does. I linked you the description page, but because you don't seem to want to read it:
"PNHLe attempts to equalize all leagues, age and positions so that the offensive potential of a prospect can easily be compared with others, while also projecting future NHL point potential in the prime years of a player."

In a perfect world, a consistent player would have equal PNHLe stats from one year to the next, and as they played in different leagues on different teams. However, due to the random nature of the game of hockey and the fact that PNHLe is built entirely on readily available statistics that are given for each league, it does come with warts which affects its overall accuracy. That also means it leaves out certain criteria that would benefit the overall accuracy, such as linemates, situational usage, time on ice, power play time, face-off percentage, hits, blocked shots etc.

Maybe they should win something to prove it.

If only Sandin was good enough to stop a 1 on 1

Yes, and in juniors offensive stats are the best predictor of success of all types in the NHL. Look at the point totals of nearly everyone drafted high up that became something big. They all put up large points.

Here is noted goal scorer Zack Hyman for example in his final years before being in the Leafs system:
2010-11 Hamilton Red Wings OJHL 43 42 60 102
2014-15 Univ. of Michigan NCAA 37 22 32 54

Sure it works in that case, but like I said, Romanov is a physical defensemen, that plays very limited minutes on the best team outside of the NHL. It's unprecedented that a 19 YO defender could crack CSKA, but Romanov did it.

You really are troll or can't read. I never compared Sandin to Romanov or Seider or any player junior player. I did take issue with your silly troll statement that Leaf fans can't form an opinion on a player because of the game feed provider. Gee just by watching the games, in any sport, rational fans can form an opinion on players value. Certainly doesn't matter if the the network showing the game is NBC, TSN, Sportsnet, ABC or whatever.
Montreal is a colloquial sports town where every depends on the Canadiens. Many sports understand in Montreal and Quebec can understand it's a big world outside of the Montreal Canadians. But then we get the narrow minded ones, who just live in die with their only major league team 12 months a year, partly because the Quebec sports media is so Montreal Canadian oriented. Seems to me Subbanator you are one that is so media influenced you can't make a judgement for yourself.

No one is saying it is perfect, but it is the best we have. Otherwise it is just a he said she said argument. Feel free to prove that Romonov is better than Sandin at any time.

It's only fair when we are comparing two offensive players.

Sandin is a OFD playing in a league where every stat is openly available.
Romanov is a TWD playing in a league where it's hard to find information, and is playing limited minutes.

As there really aren't any stats from the KHL, I guess we have to wait, but you haven't proven to me how Sandin is better, so I guess we each go our own ways.

Yeah, I am certain that it isn't unprecedented that a 19 y/o made the KHL on a very good team. In fact I think Zaitsev did it too. Congrats. You drafted Zaitsev in the first round.

Hyman is a noted offensive player too in your opinion it seems.

Zaitsev cracked CSKA at 22, but better luck next time.

54 points in the NCAA? Yeah, he was definitely an offensive player in College, his role has changed, but it doesn't take that away.

Oh yes, It is all most as if I was careful with how I worded it. He played for Sibir at 18

bronze medal and 4 playoff games don't mean you're he's better. i'm sorry you have to hear this.



romanov wouldn't be able to either, which makes this criticism null.

I would say that's true except for the fact that I live just north of Toronto and am a huge Raptors and Jay's fan and spend summers going to Jay's games (yes this year was tough), I will admit that I got priced out of going to Raptors games when Kawhi came but still able to get to 1 or 2 a year. So no, my time is fairly split, but living here I also experience that media in the area touts its self as a national sports news network but also owns teams in the respective sports. It creates a bias, that bias then gets spread as far and wide as possible from the media machine. I'm not saying every fan follows it but there is a reason a lot of Canada sports fans complain about TSN and Sportsnet.