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Need big TDL deal

Created by: BOLTLOVER1
Team: 2019-20 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 6, 2020
Published: Jan. 6, 2020
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This little stuff ain't going to cut it.. Tampa needs 2-3 veteran impact players.. Devils logical partner as they in rebuild mode .. major deal .. think Tampa needs to add 1st or 2nd rounder
Trades
1.
TBL
  1. Palmieri, Kyle
  2. Simmonds, Wayne
  3. Vatanen, Sami
Additional Details:
All veterans to shore up 3rd line and defensive RD .. none LT
NJD
  1. Cernak, Erik
  2. Johnson, Tyler
  3. Joseph, Mathieu
Additional Details:
Losing Cernek hurts but Vertanen better for this year and no need to resign Cernek as RFA. Move requires Cal Foote to be ready in 2020. Johnson or Gourde could go in this scenario and helps ALOT with Cap next year.
2.
TBL
NJD
  1. 2020 1st round pick (TBL)
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,668,331$0$1,032,500$831,669
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 5
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
UFA - 8
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$5,166,666$5,166,666
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 6
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$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$833,333$833,333
C
UFA - 1
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$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,325,000$2,325,000
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UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
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UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 7
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
G
UFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,437,500$2,437,500
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Jan. 6, 2020 at 2:59 p.m.
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How in the world would you sell Cernak? The guy is a solid D and our grittiest player
Jan. 6, 2020 at 3:02 p.m.
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What about a deal that include Cal Foote? As a Devs fan, I'm not too sure how he's being gauged. I'm guessing you guys love the Foote brothers coming up.

Obviously not saying included in this package. But what would a package look like with Cal Foote involved?
Jan. 6, 2020 at 3:08 p.m.
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Tampa would never do this deal as 1. TJ would never waive for NJ, 2. Tampa doesn't need a defensive rental atm, 3. Cernak is part of the future RD plans here and 4. Tampa wants no part of Simmonds and that contract. I believe Tampa may attempt to address the F group with a trade for Kreider, Toffoli or longer shot Pageau, but this trade isn't it.
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Jan. 6, 2020 at 3:10 p.m.
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Quoting: iforgotmyname
What about a deal that include Cal Foote? As a Devs fan, I'm not too sure how he's being gauged. I'm guessing you guys love the Foote brothers coming up.

Obviously not saying included in this package. But what would a package look like with Cal Foote involved?


I view Foote similar to Cernek in value but less value than Sergachev .. improved alot last 2 months.. I would give Foote in above deal in place of Cernek

Vertanen is rock solid.. Cernek had been good but little upside for him over time.

Win now baby
Jan. 6, 2020 at 3:23 p.m.
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It would be easier to take you more serious if you would actually consider the salary cap
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Jan. 6, 2020 at 3:34 p.m.
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It would be easier to take you more serious if you would actually consider the salary cap


Lololol
Jan. 6, 2020 at 4:06 p.m.
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Lololol


Ah the small minds that come along once in a while .. Tampa has 10 plus Million at TDL for this year ... Vertanen and Simmons are UFA and Palmieri has 1 year left .. Tyler Johnson and his 5M contract with 3 years left are gone and no 3M AAV needed to sign Cernek .. so it really a POSITIVE cap impact with need to resign Rutta as back up for Foote

5th grade skill sets come in handy
Jan. 6, 2020 at 7:35 p.m.
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laugh Name me one reason why? Tyler Johnson would waive his full NTC from a possible cup contending team in Tampa to a non-playoff team in New Jersey, Yeah it's not happening.
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Jan. 8, 2020 at 2:51 p.m.
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Quoting: BOLTLOVER1
Ah the small minds that come along once in a while .. Tampa has 10 plus Million at TDL for this year ... Vertanen and Simmons are UFA and Palmieri has 1 year left .. Tyler Johnson and his 5M contract with 3 years left are gone and no 3M AAV needed to sign Cernek .. so it really a POSITIVE cap impact with need to resign Rutta as back up for Foote

5th grade skill sets come in handy

Dude you as a Tampa fan know that there's zero incentive for Tyler Johnson to waive his full NTC from Tampa to New Jersey, Get real here he's not leaving a potential cup team in Tampa for a crap hole team in New Jersey. It's not remotely happening nor is it plausible. Johnson determines where he goes as he has full say in what teams he's willing to waive for. And i can pretty much tell you New Jersey isn't that team.
Jan. 9, 2020 at 2:34 p.m.
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Dude you as a Tampa fan know that there's zero incentive for Tyler Johnson to waive his full NTC from Tampa to New Jersey, Get real here he's not leaving a potential cup team in Tampa for a crap hole team in New Jersey. It's not remotely happening nor is it plausible. Johnson determines where he goes as he has full say in what teams he's willing to waive for. And i can pretty much tell you New Jersey isn't that team.


He knows LUL, he is just trolling too much... Selling Cernak LUL that's some dope sh_t right there... rolling eyes rolling eyes rolling eyes rolling eyes rolling eyes rolling eyes
We need a RHD not sell one of our best one, despite the down year from last season...
It's pretty simple, we don't sell any stable roster player this year. We are Buyers. NTC guys staying for playoffs... that's obvious as hell for anyone who ever watches NHL.
Cup contending teams are not sellers - LUL
Also noone ever waives it for New Jersey Devils
Why Columbus last year forgot to sell Bobrovski, Panarin or others, oh ye i know why... they wanted to win 1 or 2 rounds... well they got it... look where they are now...
WE WILL BUY - NOT SELL - most likely we buy 1 RHD - that's it... if we can package that guy with a defensive oriented forward, then we do it...
Toffoli/Kreider i think other teams will offer more... so i don't know who(forward) we target.
Last year we stand pat --> this year we need to go for it

BUT we don't need Vatanen --> he is Shattenkirk 2.0 and also too small

Simmonds - huge decline - no thanks
Simmonds < Stephens

Palmieri - too expensive, doubt we will overpay for him

My prefered target: Josh Manson - please mighty Anaheim Ducks Just put him on the trade block! squinty smile We could offer Joseph/ABB +(or) picks

I would also go for Bertuzzi and talk with Yzerbro about a good deal for both teams. Detroit Red Wings is in full tank mode. --> Sellers:
Conditional 1st round pick(base 2nd) + Raddysh. They might add Green as Bonus(super low value RHD-50% retention)
Feb. 17, 2020 at 3:37 a.m.
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You got the trade partner right, but not the players. Haha. I guess 1 in 10 worked.(not that much teams in the nhl who would trade with us- other contenders never trade with us for example or teams who dont have expiring UFA etc...). It's usually the rangers our best partner... looks like we stayed in new york...
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