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Dougie Hamilton Sign-and-Trade for Petry and Caufield

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Team: 2020-21 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 6, 2020
Published: Jan. 6, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$880,000
2$925,000
3$880,000
3$789,000
3$900,000
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
3$1,300,000
5$3,300,000
1$900,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
5$3,000,000
2$850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,700,000
3$4,500,000
1$725,000
Trades
1.
CAR
  1. Russell, Kris
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (EDM)
  3. 2021 6th round pick (PIT)
2.
CAR
  1. Backes, David
  2. 2020 1st round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
Likely a very late pick.
BOS
  1. 2020 7th round pick (TOR)
3.
CAR
  1. Dahlén, Jonathan [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 4th round pick (SJS)
4.
CAR
  1. Caufield, Cole [Reserve List]
  2. Petry, Jeff
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (CHI)
MTL
  1. Hamilton, Dougie
  2. 2021 7th round pick (STL)
Additional Details:
Habs extend Hamilton for 8 years, $9.45M AAV.
5.
CAR
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (OTT)
  2. 2020 6th round pick (STL)
OTT
  1. 2020 1st round pick (BOS)
6.
CAR
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (LAK)
  2. 2020 4th round pick (CGY)
LAK
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (CAR)
7.
CAR
  1. 2020 4th round pick (FLA)
  2. 2020 5th round pick (TOR)
FLA
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (CAR)
Buyouts
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2020
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2021
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2022
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22$83,000,000$83,049,822$1,367,073$3,487,500-$49,822
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$8,460,250$8,460,250
C
UFA - 4
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$3,300,000$3,300,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,375,000$3,375,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RW
RFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,050,000$4,050,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$737,500$737,500
G
UFA - 1
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$2,700,000$2,700,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$700,000$700,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Jan. 6, 2020 at 10:24 p.m.
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MTL keeps Caufield
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Jan. 6, 2020 at 10:25 p.m.
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Jan. 6, 2020 at 10:27 p.m.
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A little bit of both, is the answer. The trade price for Dougie will be very, very high, though. Unlike Faulk, Dougie doesn't even have a limited NTC in his contract. His extension market will have tons of suitors. I don't expect Caufield to be the prize, though, that's more of a pipe dream for me. It's got to be a better prospect than even Dominik Bokk, though. Romanov may be another one that Carolina can accept as part of the package. I do expect, however, that some team will offer a good 1st round caliber prospect.
Jan. 6, 2020 at 10:33 p.m.
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A little bit of both, is the answer. The trade price for Dougie will be very, very high, though. Unlike Faulk, Dougie doesn't even have a limited NTC in his contract. His extension market will have tons of suitors. I don't expect Caufield to be the prize, though, that's more of a pipe dream for me. It's got to be a better prospect than even Dominik Bokk, though. Romanov may be another one that Carolina can accept as part of the package. I do expect, however, that some team will offer a good 1st round caliber prospect.


Or they could just resign their potential Norris winner
Jan. 6, 2020 at 10:39 p.m.
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A little bit of both, is the answer. The trade price for Dougie will be very, very high, though. Unlike Faulk, Dougie doesn't even have a limited NTC in his contract. His extension market will have tons of suitors. I don't expect Caufield to be the prize, though, that's more of a pipe dream for me. It's got to be a better prospect than even Dominik Bokk, though. Romanov may be another one that Carolina can accept as part of the package.


The only problem I see is that if they want that kind of return, Carolina's trade destinations will be limited to teams where Dougie wants to sign, because no one is giving up a haul like that unless he's sticking around for longer than a year. However, if word gets out that Dougie has selected a team, that team has little incentive to offer up a large package for him, because they could just wait until the following summer to sign him for nothing.

I think he'll get a decent return, but I don't think he'll get the enormous haul that you're expecting.
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Jan. 6, 2020 at 10:42 p.m.
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The only problem I see is that if they want that kind of return, Carolina's trade destinations will be limited to teams where Dougie wants to sign, because no one is giving up a haul like that unless he's sticking around for longer than a year. However, if word gets out that Dougie has selected a team, that team has little incentive to offer up a large package for him, because they could just wait until the following summer to sign him for nothing.

I think he'll get a decent return, but I don't think he'll get the enormous haul that you're expecting.


People said the same thing about Justin Faulk, which actually made more sense because of the limited NTCs in his deal that essentially allowed him to choose which teams that he could sign with. He still ended up garnering an excellent return. I expect no different from Dougie if our contract extension talks fall apart.
Jan. 6, 2020 at 10:51 p.m.
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People said the same thing about Justin Faulk, which actually made more sense because of the limited NTCs in his deal that essentially allowed him to choose which teams that he could sign with. He still ended up garnering an excellent return. I expect no different from Dougie if our contract extension talks fall apart.


I think the Faulk trade return would be a good comparable. In other words a 4/5 defenseman, an A-/B+ prospect, and a downgraded draft pick.
Jan. 7, 2020 at 4:29 a.m.
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Imagine trading Caufield and Petry for Hamilton and then signing him for over 9 Million
Jan. 7, 2020 at 11:02 a.m.
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Imagine trading Caufield and Petry for Hamilton and then signing him for over 9 Million


Vegas traded Brannstrom, a similarly-highly regarded prospect, to Ottawa for 8 years of a similarly-priced Mark Stone, and IMO that was a very good little trade for both teams. Also, the sign-and-trade that your Habs made with Vegas on Pacioretty and Tatar/Suzuki was the definition of a win-win transaction. This IMO would be no different. Hamilton is easily worth Caufield if extended.
Jan. 7, 2020 at 11:09 a.m.
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Vegas traded Brannstrom, a similarly-highly regarded prospect, for 8 years of a similarly-priced Mark Stone, and IMO that was a very good little trade for both teams.


Caufield is an A+ prospect
Brannstrom was an A prospect

MTL 2 prospect untouchable are Caufield & Romanov

MTL need a sniper more than everything, who was their legit last sniper ? ( not Pacioretty ). Romanov is playing like he has top pairing potential
Jan. 7, 2020 at 11:16 a.m.
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Caufield is an A+ prospect
Brannstrom was an A prospect

MTL 2 prospect untouchable are Caufield & Romanov

MTL need a sniper more than everything, who was their legit last sniper ? ( not Pacioretty ). Romanov is playing like he has top pairing potential


Brannstrom, to me, was a similar if not better prospect than Caufield. The main difference is that Brannstrom was killing it in the AHL against men at the time, while Caufield is killing it against lesser competition in the NCAA. They were both drafted in a very similar range, as well. To me, they're comparable in terms of prestige.
Jan. 7, 2020 at 11:20 a.m.
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Brannstrom, to me, was a similar if not better prospect than Caufield. The main difference is that Brannstrom was killing it in the AHL against men at the time, while Caufield is killing it against lesser competition in the NCAA. They were both drafted in a very similar range, as well. To me, they're comparable in terms of prestige.


But what Brannstrom accomplished ? Caufield is destroying every records down the road. Is a pure sniper, worth more than Brannstrom IMO but I understand what you’re saying
Jan. 7, 2020 at 11:28 a.m.
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But what Brannstrom accomplished ? Caufield is destroying every records down the road. Is a pure sniper, worth more than Brannstrom IMO but I understand what you’re saying


What Brannstrom accomplished was that he dominated men as a 19 year old defenseman in a league just one level down from the NHL. He may be struggling to adjust to the NHL at this very moment (it doesn't help that Ottawa stinks), but he's still a fantastic prospect and is likely (IMO) to end up being a great player down the road.
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Jan. 7, 2020 at 11:39 a.m.
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Vegas traded Brannstrom, a similarly-highly regarded prospect, to Ottawa for 8 years of a similarly-priced Mark Stone, and IMO that was a very good little trade for both teams. Also, the sign-and-trade that your Habs made with Vegas on Pacioretty and Tatar/Suzuki was the definition of a win-win transaction. This IMO would be no different. Hamilton is easily worth Caufield if extended.


Not at that contract point. I wouldn't take Hamilton for free if we had to pay him 9 Million.
Jan. 7, 2020 at 11:48 a.m.
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Not at that contract point. I wouldn't take Hamilton for free if we had to pay him 9 Million.


What do you consider to be a "fair" contract for Hamilton? The reason that I posted this proposal is because Carolina is notoriously hard-ball on contract extensions, despite them now being a cap-ceiling team. I expect a New England approach to this negotiation: take this offer or look for other teams in the league of similar caliber who can pay you more. If you find one, we'll try to put a deal together, but if not, we'll happily have you here for the rest of the season. That's exactly the strategy that they took with Faulk, and the end result was them getting Dominik Bokk out of the whole thing.
Jan. 7, 2020 at 11:50 a.m.
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What do you consider to be a "fair" contract for Hamilton? The reason that I posted this proposal is because Carolina is notoriously hard-ball on contract extensions, despite them now being a cap-ceiling team. I expect a New England approach to this negotiation: take this offer or look for other teams in the league of similar caliber who can pay you more. If you find one, we'll try to put a deal together, but if not, we'll happily have you here for the rest of the season. That's exactly the strategy that they took with Faulk, and the end result was them getting Dominik Bokk out of the whole thing.


Really not comfortable offering him anything more than 8 Million. I just don't think there is a deal to be made. It's pretty wide known that he has attitude problems, so I imagine Bergevin has no interest, and then there's having to give up enough for the Canes to be happy, which I don't think Montreal will do.
Jan. 7, 2020 at 11:59 a.m.
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Really not comfortable offering him anything more than 8 Million. I just don't think there is a deal to be made. It's pretty wide known that he has attitude problems, so I imagine Bergevin has no interest, and then there's having to give up enough for the Canes to be happy, which I don't think Montreal will do.


The attitude problems are very much "fake news", at least in Carolina. I think that he is perhaps a better fit in younger-skewing locker rooms than in teams with more of a hardened-veteran core. I think that the current Habs situation would probably be a great fit for him, like it currently is here. You guys have a LOT of youth, even without a Caufield or a Romanov.
Jan. 7, 2020 at 12:00 p.m.
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The attitude problems are very much "fake news", at least in Carolina. I think that he is perhaps a better fit in younger-skewing locker rooms than in teams with more of a hardened-veteran core. I think that the current Habs situation would probably be a great fit for him, like it currently is here. You guys have a LOT of youth, even without a Caufield or a Romanov.


Dougie Hamilton is a known loose cannon for going to museums.
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